| 00:00:02 | Chestal | Widget: but they're really bad |
| 00:00:26 | yz | bad argument -solo |
| 00:00:28 | yz | :D |
| 00:00:28 | T-34 | Cu all tankers ! |
| 00:00:31 | Chestal | they just try to fin dsome course to your position, shooting all the time as they move |
| 00:00:32 | T-34 | Good night |
| 00:00:43 | captain_proton | yz: yeah - bot code has been ripped out in 1.8a |
| 00:00:58 | yz | captain_proton, still i use the 1.7e or something. |
| 00:01:01 | Chestal | yz: uh? shoudl work with 1.7e4. It's an optin of the client, not the server |
| 00:01:09 | Chestal | yz: bfzlag -solo 3 should work |
| 00:01:12 | captain_proton | yeah nobody uses 1.8 'cept for when they're coding |
| 00:01:18 | iLLf8d | that bot code was cludgey at best anyway |
| 00:01:22 | yz | Chestal, yeah, but it did nothing. |
| 00:02:04 | Chestal | installs bzflag .deb |
| 00:02:19 | Chestal | uh, 2AM already |
| 00:02:21 | crash | had a very quick dinner, not very hungry |
| 00:02:28 | crash | and still at work? |
| 00:02:49 | Chestal | no, at home |
| 00:02:54 | crash | ahh, cool :) |
| 00:03:01 | crash | (yes, umm) |
| 00:03:13 | Widget | Hello, crash. |
| 00:03:16 | Widget | Hi, iLL. |
| 00:03:19 | Widget | Hi, iLLf8d. |
| 00:03:19 | iLLf8d | wow |
| 00:03:22 | iLLf8d | i'm in gaim |
| 00:03:23 | crash | hey Widget |
| 00:03:23 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 00:03:24 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 00:03:24 | yz | i should get some food. just came home from 'out' :D |
| 00:03:26 | iLLf8d | wow |
| 00:03:26 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 00:03:37 | Widget | iLLf8d: Cool. |
| 00:03:41 | iLLf8d | it has like a little chat window |
| 00:03:48 | iLLf8d | got icq yahoo aim and irc setup |
| 00:03:49 | Chestal | server lsti is workign for me |
| 00:03:53 | iLLf8d | gotta sign up for an msn account |
| 00:03:57 | Chestal | coo, there's a 1 shot server in the list (.uk) |
| 00:04:15 | iLLf8d | which one |
| 00:04:15 | iLLf8d | ? |
| 00:04:18 | Chestal | yz: you really get an error when using 'bzflag -solo 3' |
| 00:04:29 | Chestal | ill: it#s in the list, one of the 10 topmost servers |
| 00:04:37 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 00:06:02 | crash | hmm, lets make this place more interesting |
| 00:06:20 | crash | what are you guys doing this weekend? |
| 00:06:25 | crash | bz? :) |
| 00:06:27 | captain_proton | homework |
| 00:06:32 | captain_proton | and laundry |
| 00:06:35 | crash | ahh, i hate homework |
| 00:06:36 | Chestal | hmm, startign server from withing bzflag really yiels 'incomp server version' |
| 00:07:44 | yz | Chestal, no. nothing happens. it satrts the game, then nothing. |
| 00:10:30 | crash | hmmm |
| 00:10:34 | crash | i hate quiet |
| 00:11:08 | iLLf8d | cya gotta take a shower |
| 00:11:28 | Chestal | yz: hmm, let my try |
| 00:12:47 | crash | i'm new to IRC, is there anyway to send a direct message to someone? |
| 00:13:06 | captain_proton | /msg <user> <message> |
| 00:13:22 | Chestal | yz: works for me. I did: bzfs -r +r -ms 2 +s |
| 00:13:42 | Chestal | yz: then started bzflag -solo 3 , entered my local hostname and had 3 bots |
| 00:13:50 | crash | i have to put in the <> signs? |
| 00:14:00 | Chestal | yz: hmm, maybe your bz was compiled withotu support for bots? |
| 00:14:15 | Chestal | yz: there is an ifdef in there, but I think bots are activated by default |
| 00:14:48 | Chestal | crash: no |
| 00:18:31 | yz | Chestal, lemme check. :) |
| 00:20:00 | captain_proton | ahh i just love the AO people |
| 00:20:08 | captain_proton | <Negative> what's linux? |
| 00:20:09 | captain_proton | <Terr> Negative: It's a kind of cat, big. |
| 00:21:25 | yz | Chestal, yeah, that worked. :) |
| 00:21:30 | Chestal | yz: fine |
| 00:21:36 | yz | still i have to use another port. |
| 00:23:10 | scanline | is away: food-like doodads |
| 00:23:13 | Widget | captain_proton: AO people? |
| 00:23:19 | captain_proton | Widget: antionline irc |
| 00:24:01 | Widget | captain_proton: Hm... |
| 00:25:02 | Widget | Cappy Hamper. |
| 00:39:50 | Widget | Hi, MrApathyCream. |
| 00:39:58 | MrApathyCream | hey |
| 00:40:02 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: when are you going to add the world panel? =} |
| 00:40:21 | MrApathyCream | it's there hoss |
| 00:40:44 | captain_proton | ahh i see |
| 00:40:45 | scanline | is back (gone 00:17:35) |
| 00:41:14 | captain_proton | scanline: hows food? |
| 00:41:27 | MrApathyCream | bbl |
| 00:41:35 | scanline | captain_proton: spaghetti, with mystery meat sauce |
| 00:42:26 | Widget | ducati is full. :( |
| 00:42:31 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 00:42:53 | captain_proton | checks whats at cheyho |
| 00:43:08 | Chestal | Widget: you can join as observer and wait for a free slot |
| 00:43:08 | Widget | And bhaskara has one person who is very lagging, and impossible to shoot. |
| 00:43:20 | Widget | Chestal: Hm. I think I'll do that, thanks,. |
| 00:46:05 | captain_proton | i wish it would rain |
| 00:46:45 | scanline | captain_proton: use your particle engine to fix it |
| 00:47:00 | captain_proton | w0000! |
| 00:47:01 | captain_proton | Tonight: MOSTLY CLOUDY WITH A SLIGHT CHANCE OF RAIN SHOWERS OVERNIGHT. WINDS BECOMING NORTH 10 TO 20 MPH AFTER MIDNIGHT. LOWS AROUND 40. CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION 20 PERCENT. |
| 00:47:01 | captain_proton | Sunday: COOLER AND CLOUDY WITH A 40 PERCENT CHANCE OF RAIN SHOWERS. NORTH WINDS 10 TO 15 MPH. HIGHS 50 TO 55. |
| 00:47:16 | scanline | good good |
| 00:47:30 | captain_proton | i really need to finish up the code thata capitalizes everything |
| 00:47:58 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/weather/ <-- :) |
| 00:48:02 | scanline | perl -p -e '$_=lc($_)' |
| 00:48:34 | captain_proton | scanline: properly capitalizes for sentences & stuff |
| 00:48:41 | scanline | oh, ok |
| 00:49:03 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 00:49:12 | captain_proton | i need to put up the new episode of carolyn's adventures |
| 00:49:48 | captain_proton | but first, food |
| 00:50:50 | Chestal | damn, I lost my first match at tuxpuck |
| 00:50:57 | captain_proton | tuxpuck? |
| 00:51:13 | captain_proton | is out |
| 00:53:02 | Chestal | I lost again |
| 00:53:13 | Chestal | SHufflepuck Cafe |
| 00:56:54 | Chestal | I won! hurrah! |
| 00:58:47 | jpablo_ | tuxpuck sucks :-P |
| 00:59:58 | Chestal | it ruuules |
| 01:00:11 | Chestal | I used to ply Shufflepuck Cafe on the AMiga for hours :-) |
| 01:00:20 | Chestal | tuxpuck still has some way to go, but it's fun |
| 01:00:33 | Chestal | well, I'mm off to bed, 3 AM here, good night |
| 01:00:48 | jpablo_ | nights |
| 01:12:26 | captain_proton | returns |
| 01:17:20 | captain_proton | gets irritated at shoes and puts on sandals |
| 01:20:06 | jpablo_ | maybe a link to the league page on the link will be nice :-P |
| 01:20:30 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:20:36 | captain_proton | looks like gm hunter is regestered twice |
| 01:45:03 | jpablo_ | duh, hosting a lug metting is not good for your bzflag band with |
| 02:21:06 | captain_proton | looks around |
| 02:23:42 | jpablo_ | kicks people out of his machine. |
| 02:50:24 | Widget | Hi, all. |
| 02:56:50 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 10:26:45) |
| 02:56:56 | captain_proton | wb vogon_jeltz |
| 02:57:28 | vogon_jeltz | yo. |
| 02:57:41 | captain_proton | committed to cvs yet? |
| 02:57:43 | captain_proton | :) |
| 02:57:48 | vogon_jeltz | no. |
| 02:57:57 | vogon_jeltz | today, I'm trying to install a new KDE. ;) |
| 02:57:58 | captain_proton | lazy biatch |
| 02:58:05 | captain_proton | ... you don't use kde |
| 02:58:06 | vogon_jeltz | I have the code, but it's in awful shape. |
| 02:58:15 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, but I might do so in the future. |
| 02:58:41 | captain_proton | i've never known anyone to move to a more user friendly/less powerful environment |
| 02:58:49 | vogon_jeltz | heh. |
| 02:58:59 | vogon_jeltz | just trying it to be different. |
| 02:59:09 | captain_proton | its not "different" |
| 02:59:13 | captain_proton | its "foolish" |
| 03:01:21 | jpablo_ | kde SUCKS ! :-P |
| 03:01:25 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 03:01:36 | captain_proton | either of you know how to compute a vector orthogonal to two other vectors? |
| 03:01:43 | jpablo_ | gnome rules especialy his games :-) |
| 03:01:46 | captain_proton | forgets the process and his notes from last semester are at home |
| 03:03:53 | captain_proton | bleh |
| 03:03:55 | captain_proton | loads of help you guys are |
| 03:04:20 | vogon_jeltz | takes out the world's smallest violin and plays the world's saddest song, just for captain_proton |
| 03:04:42 | captain_proton | haha |
| 03:05:41 | captain_proton | i already know what the world's saddest song is and it can't be played with just one violin |
| 03:06:04 | vogon_jeltz | does the big finale, which consists of smashing captain_proton over the head with the world's smallest thermonuclear bomb |
| 03:08:03 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 03:08:23 | captain_proton | the 2nd movement of dvorak's new world symphony would make awesome music for a video game cinematic |
| 03:10:08 | Widget | Have you heard? The ICJ has ruled that debs for KDE 3 must be released in the next twenty four hours. |
| 03:10:19 | captain_proton | ICJ? |
| 03:10:26 | Widget | International Court of Justice. |
| 03:11:10 | captain_proton | what is that? |
| 03:11:16 | Widget | What it sound like. |
| 03:11:23 | captain_proton | sounds like something from a bad science fiction film |
| 03:11:23 | Widget | What it sounds like, even. |
| 03:11:40 | captain_proton | and why did they rule on such a thing anyway? |
| 03:11:42 | Widget | Most countries accept ICJ jurisdiction, with reservations |
| 03:12:16 | captain_proton | link me ;) |
| 03:12:16 | Widget | But wait...... does it have jurisdiction over Debian Planet? |
| 03:12:44 | Widget | http://www.icj-cij.org/ |
| 03:13:58 | captain_proton | where is this ruling? |
| 03:14:05 | Widget | was trolling. |
| 03:14:20 | captain_proton | gah |
| 03:14:21 | captain_proton | bastage |
| 03:14:52 | captain_proton | mutters something about debian bigots |
| 03:14:55 | Widget | should try to expand possibilities by trolling at Slashdot. |
| 03:15:28 | vogon_jeltz | it's not trolling unless someone will actually believe it's true. |
| 03:16:10 | Widget | captain_proton: You were pretending! You trolled me! |
| 03:16:20 | Widget | Wo d'Uelzecht duerch d'Wisen ze't. |
| 03:16:31 | vogon_jeltz | no court has jurisdiction over software release timetables. |
| 03:16:56 | captain_proton | that is why i was so confused |
| 03:16:58 | Widget | vogon_jeltz: Yes. |
| 03:16:58 | vogon_jeltz | hell, the laws of temporal mechanics don't even constrain them all that much. |
| 03:21:03 | Widget | I wonder..... is Kinkatta still under development? |
| 04:17:32 | Widget | Wow. I killed all conversation here. |
| 06:39:09 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZzzzzz |
| 06:55:48 | vogon_jeltz | is away: upgrading |
| 07:05:52 | scanline | is back (gone 00:26:42) |
| 08:45:15 | Chestal | that's strange with gm hunter |
| 08:45:32 | Chestal | nuum asked if gmhunter could diolve his tem and join z00 |
| 08:45:38 | Chestal | now he's with the rats |
| 09:02:41 | captain_proton | nuum wants me to use his "artwork" for meq's logo |
| 09:02:49 | captain_proton | i told him my pet gerbil was a better artist =) |
| 09:02:53 | captain_proton | actually |
| 09:03:03 | captain_proton | i said his work makes my pet gerbil look like monet |
| 09:04:36 | Chestal | oh, a Mexican team |
| 09:04:48 | Chestal | I must be off -> sports |
| 09:06:01 | captain_proton | have fun |
| 09:16:14 | MrApathyCream | tanks are sports, aren't they? |
| 09:17:34 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZzzz again |
| 09:22:06 | vogon_jeltz | is away: VFS: Panic: Cannot mount root fs |
| 09:22:22 | vogon_jeltz | is away: VFS: Panic: Cannot mount root fs |
| 09:22:29 | captain_proton | pokes vogon_jeltz |
| 09:22:34 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:00:02) |
| 09:24:44 | vogon_jeltz | kicks captain_proton |
| 09:24:54 | vogon_jeltz | I'm red-carpeting my box. |
| 09:25:46 | captain_proton | fun |
| 09:25:57 | vogon_jeltz | yeah. |
| 10:48:13 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, x en de the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. |
| 10:48:18 | | vogon_jeltz: der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund. |
| 16:00:38 | scanline | is back (gone 05:24:33) |
| 16:38:47 | Chestal | hi |
| 16:40:01 | anton | hi |
| 16:43:28 | Chestal | the US people seem to be still asleep, very quiet here |
| 16:43:43 | anton | seems so. |
| 16:44:21 | anton | I just discovered bzflag after the slashdot article. Seems fun! |
| 16:45:22 | Chestal | it sure is a great game when you're on a decent server with decent people |
| 16:45:49 | anton | And if the others aren't decent, then just blow them away! |
| 16:46:09 | Chestal | like all internet action games we suffer from lag |
| 16:46:32 | Chestal | hopefulyl this will improve some with new version (1.8), which should be ready in some months |
| 16:47:08 | Chestal | but currently you really need somehtign faster than dialup |
| 16:47:55 | anton | 512/512 ADSL is enough for me at the moment. |
| 16:48:13 | Chestal | that sure is enough, when you still have lag, that's probably not your fault |
| 16:48:29 | anton | Is tanks dissapearing, and instantly reappearing not far away a sign of lag? |
| 16:48:38 | Chestal | we are having lots of new players since the /. article |
| 16:49:16 | anton | What about not being able to turn or move, could that be connection problems? |
| 16:49:22 | Chestal | anton: hmm, typical effects of lag are: 1) you shoot through other tanks 2) other tank's moveent are choppy |
| 16:49:53 | Chestal | do you get updates on radar and 3d view of other tanks' movements when you cannot turn? |
| 16:50:20 | anton | Yes, choppy movement I have experienced. Other tanks do move when I cannot turn. |
| 16:50:26 | Chestal | some part of the documentation need to be updated, but we'll do that with 1.8 |
| 16:50:57 | anton | Sometimes I have probably just been too close to a wall, but I have experienced inability to turn also in the middle of a field. |
| 16:51:10 | Chestal | anton: hmm, that's strange. I never had that problem. SO you cannot move, but evrythign else losk fine? you see tanks/shots etc. moving smoothly? |
| 16:51:38 | anton | Yes, I usually get shot quite quickly when that happens ;-). |
| 16:51:52 | Chestal | strange, you're using the mouse? |
| 16:52:00 | anton | Yes. |
| 16:52:12 | Chestal | windows? linux? soemthing else? |
| 16:52:17 | anton | Linux. |
| 16:52:42 | Chestal | hmm, no idea THis doesn't sound network related |
| 16:52:53 | Chestal | using 1.7e4? UDP enabled in options? |
| 16:52:59 | anton | I'll try to study the phenomenon more closely when it happens in the future. However, as I said, I get killed quite quickly. |
| 16:53:04 | anton | 1.7e4. UDP. |
| 16:53:35 | Chestal | hi Cream |
| 16:54:21 | scanline | is away: food |
| 16:54:23 | Chestal | well, I am tired and have to release this computer, only conquered it for a quick ssh session |
| 16:54:25 | Chestal | later |
| 16:55:00 | Chestal | anton: btw., if you're a C++ programmer: we are always looking for people helping in the development :-) |
| 16:56:11 | anton | I probably don't have the time :-(. Allthough I would like to do some real programming for a change. |
| 16:57:57 | MrApathyCream | hey chestal |
| 16:58:00 | Chestal | well, I'm off now. bye for now |
| 16:58:48 | anton | bzflag.org have a slightly broken virtual host setup: bzflag.org shows the home page of a hansome young man, while www.bzflag.org gives the real BZFlag pages. |
| 16:59:35 | scanline | is back (gone 00:05:14) |
| 18:27:54 | bradi | Hi, all. |
| 18:30:33 | bradi | Hm.... Virtual PC for OS/2 has been released. |
| 20:30:21 | | bonjour, RiSeMaN |
| 20:30:21 | RiSeMaN | hello |
| 20:34:51 | jp_zZzZ | hola RiSeMaN |
| 20:35:07 | RiSeMaN | hola jp :) |
| 20:40:45 | scanline | is away: food |
| 21:09:01 | RiSeMaN | is away: in the wind... |
| 21:11:45 | Chestal | hi |
| 21:12:03 | | salut, sjeh |
| 21:12:03 | sjeh | hi |
| 21:12:23 | sjeh | hmm |
| 21:12:50 | sjeh | bzflag league site is misbehaving for me |
| 21:12:53 | sjeh | or i'm being really stupid |
| 21:13:29 | | the problem exists between the keyboard and the floor. |
| 21:13:29 | Chestal | sjeh: what's the problem? |
| 21:13:44 | sjeh | created a team |
| 21:13:45 | | Sorry, Chestal, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 21:13:45 | Chestal | shut up, ibot |
| 21:13:47 | sjeh | but it appears as closed |
| 21:13:48 | sjeh | to everybody |
| 21:13:53 | sjeh | despite having only be on it |
| 21:14:06 | Chestal | you're Simon Hay? |
| 21:14:13 | sjeh | mm |
| 21:14:39 | Chestal | mm? |
| 21:14:49 | sjeh | yes |
| 21:14:54 | sjeh | sorry :-) |
| 21:14:58 | Chestal | ah, I was just reading your email |
| 21:15:01 | sjeh | ah |
| 21:15:05 | Chestal | when did you create the team? |
| 21:15:21 | sjeh | middle of this afternoon - but i'm on english time, so... |
| 21:15:25 | sjeh | 6 hours ago? |
| 21:15:28 | sjeh | not sure entirely |
| 21:15:37 | Chestal | hmm, should've been fixed before, maybe the fix isn't working |
| 21:15:43 | sjeh | well |
| 21:15:45 | sjeh | someone created a team |
| 21:15:48 | sjeh | a few minutes after me |
| 21:15:51 | sjeh | and that's behaving fine |
| 21:17:01 | Chestal | hmm, I can't do anythign about it, but captain_proton can |
| 21:17:06 | Chestal | he seems to be asleep, though |
| 21:17:15 | Chestal | I'll send him a message |
| 21:17:54 | sjeh | thanks |
| 21:20:24 | Chestal | what is this compsoc teams? |
| 21:21:07 | sjeh | heh |
| 21:21:11 | sjeh | computer society |
| 21:21:22 | sjeh | but we have 10 people who want to play |
| 21:21:25 | sjeh | so we split into 2 teams of 5 |
| 21:21:33 | Chestal | ah, ok |
| 21:21:54 | sjeh | bitter and twisted just random pair of words to distinguish between them |
| 21:21:55 | sjeh | :-) |
| 21:21:58 | Chestal | we might allow bigger teams, but I dodn't know if that would be useful. Current plan is to allow a maximum of 3:3 battles |
| 21:22:22 | sjeh | yeah |
| 21:22:27 | sjeh | well, i guess try it and see... |
| 21:22:35 | sjeh | 3 v 3 sounds about right |
| 21:23:12 | Chestal | hmm, 25 teams already, some of them are 1 player teams, though |
| 21:24:48 | sjeh | 12 teams of 3 or more |
| 21:26:02 | Chestal | I would like to get the whole thign startes ASAP, but there are some details we haven't made up our mind about |
| 21:26:45 | Chestal | main issues: 1) how to best agree on time/date for a battle 2) lag |
| 21:52:39 | T-34 | Hi tankers! |
| 21:52:43 | Chestal | hi T-34 |
| 22:02:52 | almogaver | hi |
| 22:03:48 | T-34 | Hi almo |
| 22:04:13 | T-34 | I didn't see you cause I was writing a bzmessage to you |
| 22:04:25 | T-34 | And I just fihished |
| 22:04:48 | almogaver | i've joined a minute ago, more or less |
| 22:04:55 | T-34 | ah ok |
| 22:12:50 | Chestal | um |
| 22:12:52 | Chestal | oops |
| 22:38:20 | scanline | is back (gone 01:57:36) |
| 22:42:27 | RiSeMaN | is back (gone 01:33:25) |
| 22:56:43 | almogaver | Chestal? |
| 22:56:47 | Chestal | yes |
| 22:57:03 | almogaver | about the league |
| 22:57:09 | almogaver | will be 3 vs 3 matches or 4 vs 4? |
| 22:57:16 | Chestal | 3 vs 3 probably |
| 22:57:20 | almogaver | why? |
| 22:57:34 | Chestal | two reasons: I thnk 4 vs. 4 is too full |
| 22:57:39 | almogaver | most people is used to play 4 vs 4 in ducati |
| 22:57:54 | Chestal | and it#s easier to get 3 people from a team to show up for the match than 4 |
| 22:58:08 | Chestal | so otherwise we woudl have a lot of 4:3 battles |
| 22:58:13 | almogaver | and why don't decide it at game start? |
| 22:58:29 | almogaver | if there are 4 players in each team, play a 4vs4 game |
| 22:58:33 | almogaver | if not, a 3 vs 3 |
| 23:00:03 | Chestal | I stil think 4:4 is too full, you get lots of random killing |
| 23:00:21 | Chestal | but maybe we'll be fleible and let the teams decide |
| 23:00:37 | almogaver | ummm.. |
| 23:00:43 | almogaver | maybe you have reason |
| 23:01:31 | almogaver | and another question |
| 23:01:40 | almogaver | I've a 56k modem |
| 23:01:54 | almogaver | and I can't play at bhaskara (in US) |
| 23:01:57 | almogaver | due to lag |
| 23:02:02 | Chestal | yes, Modem users / lag will be a problem |
| 23:02:13 | Chestal | it's sad, but true. Don#t know how to handle this best |
| 23:02:13 | almogaver | I got a lag between 290 and 320 ms |
| 23:02:31 | almogaver | but in Ducati I got between 210 and 250 |
| 23:02:50 | almogaver | most europeans have modems |
| 23:03:20 | almogaver | where is the server who hosts the matches? do you know? |
| 23:03:51 | Chestal | IMHO bzflag cannot really be palyer over Modem, it sucks |
| 23:04:03 | Chestal | ehm I guess we'll be using ducati and bhaskara |
| 23:05:01 | almogaver | if you pay me an ADSL line I'll use it ;)) |
| 23:05:51 | Chestal | what makes lag so bad on CTF is that the laggers have an advantage when carrying the flag |
| 23:06:35 | almogaver | true |
| 23:07:13 | Chestal | if we can go to server side colision detectin with 1.8, laggers will have the disadvantage |
| 23:11:02 | jpablo | fuck, ducati is very full, /me can't play his traditional morning game. |
| 23:11:18 | Chestal | morning? |
| 23:11:32 | Chestal | I'll go to bed soon |
| 23:11:46 | almogaver | Chestal: we'll use ducati:5156 or you'll open another port? |
| 23:11:56 | Chestal | almogaver: probably another port |
| 23:11:58 | jpablo | well, here are 6:14pm but i just wake up :-P |
| 23:12:23 | almogaver | Chestal: we (equipo hispano) have a challenge with meq |
| 23:13:00 | Chestal | almo: hmm, ehm, the challenge system hasn't been setup yet |
| 23:13:29 | almogaver | Chestal: we agree the challengue with the bzmessage system ;) |
| 23:13:55 | Chestal | hmm, then we'll have to sort out some things |
| 23:14:05 | Chestal | I guess captain_proton will tell me anyway |
| 23:14:45 | almogaver | i said it to ask you for a server where do the challenge |
| 23:15:20 | Chestal | I guess it#s a good idea to get it started |
| 23:15:29 | Chestal | just do some matches to see where possible problems are |
| 23:17:17 | jpablo | wonders why there's so much spanish people on the bzflag escene. |
| 23:17:36 | almogaver | jpablo: eres español¿ |
| 23:17:57 | jpablo | nop, mexicano. |
| 23:18:01 | almogaver | Chestal: we don't have agree a day/hour yet |
| 23:18:20 | Chestal | almogaver: I think a weekend would be best? |
| 23:18:29 | sjeh | hmm |
| 23:18:35 | sjeh | what about time differences... |
| 23:18:40 | Chestal | I've been thinking about how to get peopel to agree on a time/date |
| 23:18:49 | Chestal | I've got different thngs on my mind |
| 23:18:53 | sjeh | i suppose the one good thing |
| 23:18:56 | sjeh | is that all the players on one team |
| 23:19:05 | sjeh | are likely to be in the same/similar time zones |
| 23:19:10 | sjeh | so it's just a matter of the two teams agreeing |
| 23:19:45 | Chestal | for Erupe<->America matches, about 20- UTC would be ok |
| 23:19:54 | almogaver | Chestal: i agree |
| 23:20:06 | sjeh | mm |
| 23:20:07 | almogaver | Chestal: i'm thinking in this friday at 8p.m. GMT |
| 23:20:20 | almogaver | Chestal: but i don't have talk with meq members yet |
| 23:20:31 | almogaver | Chestal: but i haven't talk with meq members yet |
| 23:20:44 | sjeh | how's it going to work? |
| 23:20:45 | Chestal | almogaver: I would kiek to be there, Friday migh twork, don't know yet, though |
| 23:20:46 | sjeh | league, as in |
| 23:20:49 | sjeh | everyone plays everyone? |
| 23:21:03 | Chestal | sjeh: 3 ideas: tournaments, challenges and league |
| 23:21:21 | sjeh | league would make it last a long time |
| 23:21:24 | Chestal | on a tournament there might be deathmatches |
| 23:21:28 | sjeh | with 25 teams |
| 23:21:48 | Chestal | with challenges, teas decide themselves about their matches, we'll use the ratign system for this |
| 23:22:21 | almogaver | Chestal: what is the meaning of kiek? |
| 23:22:54 | Chestal | eh, 'like to be there' :-) |
| 23:23:29 | sjeh | this hack for observers |
| 23:23:29 | almogaver | Chestal: thx, my english is so bad ;) |
| 23:23:41 | sjeh | presumably a server patch... |
| 23:23:45 | sjeh | available somewhere? sf? |
| 23:23:55 | Chestal | it#s hacked into my bzfs.cxx :-) |
| 23:24:01 | Chestal | alogn with soem other ugly patches |
| 23:24:07 | sjeh | mmm |
| 23:24:10 | sjeh | i've got quite a lot of patches |
| 23:24:12 | sjeh | lying around |
| 23:24:22 | sjeh | like stuff for logging games to mysql & and php script for stats, etc. |
| 23:24:26 | sjeh | but they need to be sorted and tidied |
| 23:24:32 | sjeh | before they're fit to be unleashed on the world |
| 23:24:36 | almogaver | are you the code maintainer Chestal? |
| 23:25:46 | Chestal | eh, no, Tim is the project maintainer |
| 23:25:53 | Chestal | and Cris is the original programmer |
| 23:26:15 | almogaver | I know her names, but not her nicks ;) |
| 23:26:15 | Chestal | but I am one of the maybe 5 guys who are most actively developing on it righ tnow |
| 23:26:30 | almogaver | ah! ok |
| 23:26:35 | almogaver | there are some unused files |
| 23:26:55 | almogaver | like some of net code files |
| 23:27:18 | Chestal | hmm, in 1.8? |
| 23:27:24 | almogaver | in 1.7e4 |
| 23:27:40 | Chestal | ah, that might be |
| 23:27:48 | Chestal | 1.7 is more or less a dead branch now |
| 23:28:03 | Chestal | 1.8 will have big changes |
| 23:28:21 | almogaver | the ones inside the bzflag/src/net/ directory in 1.7e4 tarball |
| 23:29:40 | sjeh | right |
| 23:29:46 | sjeh | i'm off, i think |
| 23:29:49 | sjeh | half past twelve... |
| 23:30:01 | sjeh | chestal - what should i do about my team? |
| 23:30:40 | RiSeMaN | good night all |
| 23:30:43 | Chestal | sjeh: well, I messaged captain_proton, I hope he'll fix it till tomorrow |
| 23:30:48 | almogaver | nite RiSeMaN |
| 23:30:51 | sjeh | ok |
| 23:30:52 | sjeh | cheers |
| 23:31:01 | sjeh | i'll have another go tomorrow then |
| 23:31:01 | sjeh | :-) |
| 23:31:02 | sjeh | thanks |
| 23:31:04 | sjeh | 'night |
| 23:31:26 | almogaver | Chestal: 1.8 will be the actual 1.7e5? |
| 23:31:43 | almogaver | there are net protocol changes? |
| 23:32:42 | Chestal | almogaver: 1.8 is in CVS right now, it will not be compatible |
| 23:33:05 | almogaver | ok |
| 23:34:09 | almogaver | then Chestal |
| 23:34:24 | almogaver | do you can let us a server for our challenge? |
| 23:34:42 | Chestal | yes, I coudl start a server when I have time |
| 23:34:55 | almogaver | ducati works fine |
| 23:35:04 | almogaver | maybe ducati:5157 is a good choice |
| 23:35:59 | Chestal | I thoguht about using a random port like 59876 or something |
| 23:36:20 | Chestal | we'll see. I wil probably be very busy this week, s I cannot pomise anything |
| 23:37:01 | almogaver | ok, so I'll try to fix a date |
| 23:37:12 | almogaver | but I'll wait until you say me anything |
| 23:37:46 | Chestal | Friday or Saturday evening could work with me |
| 23:38:08 | Chestal | that's MEST evening |
| 23:40:26 | almogaver | this friday? |
| 23:41:50 | Chestal | well, yes |
| 23:43:12 | Chestal | I'm off to bed now, cu |
| 23:43:15 | almogaver | ok, I'll send you a message or a mail |
| 23:43:18 | almogaver | cu |
| 23:44:19 | almogaver | bye all |
| 23:58:54 | vogon_jeltz | is away: o/~ I'm away, I'm away, I'm a-way-way-way! o/~ |