| 00:34:53 | | BZFlag was last seen on #zaurus 34 minutes and 32 seconds ago, saying: kergoth`work: agreed. no sources, a lot of depends and a jffs2 target. ;-) [Thu Jan 24 00:00:21 2002] |
| 00:34:53 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen BZFlag? |
| 01:20:18 | | I haven't seen 'Crazy_1.8_guy', MrApathyCream |
| 01:20:18 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen Crazy_1.8_guy? |
| 01:44:36 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 11:17:33) |
| 01:44:53 | vogon_jeltz | no, it's not done yet |
| 01:57:16 | MrApathyCream | ibot, is it done yet? |
| 04:02:12 | MrApathyCream | looks for change in topics.... |
| 04:02:31 | MrApathyCream | expects Vogon pronoucement: Finished! |
| 04:02:37 | vogon_jeltz | kicks MrApathyCream's ass into the next cubic parsec |
| 04:02:55 | captain_proton | hey MrApathyCream |
| 04:02:59 | MrApathyCream | hey! |
| 04:03:07 | captain_proton | come on vogon_jeltz - we've both done our parts |
| 04:03:18 | MrApathyCream | decides not to take capn-parser off the hook |
| 04:03:28 | MrApathyCream | Hey hows that good, bad and team parsing going capn? |
| 04:03:44 | vogon_jeltz | how long did it take cappy to finish his part, again? |
| 04:04:02 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: once i got done with school enough to work on it, 30 minutes |
| 04:04:02 | MrApathyCream | 1 day 1 hour... you're about 3 hours late. |
| 04:04:14 | MrApathyCream | 5 points off for every hour now |
| 04:04:18 | vogon_jeltz | haha |
| 04:04:22 | vogon_jeltz | out of how many? |
| 04:04:27 | captain_proton | 7 |
| 04:04:31 | vogon_jeltz | hahahahha |
| 04:05:33 | MrApathyCream | capn: good, bad, team? |
| 04:05:45 | captain_proton | no, not yet |
| 04:05:56 | MrApathyCream | Sheesh, the yutes of today! |
| 04:06:42 | vogon_jeltz | what the f0rk is this diffed against? |
| 04:06:45 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: i'm currently working on finishing up some asm stuff for my class tomorrow |
| 04:06:51 | MrApathyCream | e5 |
| 04:06:51 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: should be current CVS |
| 04:06:56 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 04:07:12 | vogon_jeltz | uhh, you guys do know that the netcode in the e5 server is screwed up something awful |
| 04:07:16 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: i'll do good/bad/team immediately after the patch comes back to my corner |
| 04:07:18 | vogon_jeltz | right? |
| 04:07:22 | MrApathyCream | no... works |
| 04:07:29 | vogon_jeltz | well, it's been fixed then |
| 04:07:31 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: you need to add -pr in the server opts |
| 04:07:35 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 04:07:55 | vogon_jeltz | checks out the CVS |
| 04:08:13 | MrApathyCream | There's this new feature where two people can work on the same code at the same time.... It's called cvs |
| 04:08:27 | MrApathyCream | wasn't sure if that was apparent... :P |
| 04:08:31 | vogon_jeltz | and don't bitch about it, because I like to work off trees where my bugs aren't masked by other people's bugs |
| 04:09:18 | MrApathyCream | What version do you normally use then, 0.00? |
| 04:09:27 | vogon_jeltz | 1.7e4 |
| 04:09:29 | captain_proton | lol |
| 04:09:43 | vogon_jeltz | at least I could connect to a freaking server with it |
| 04:09:52 | MrApathyCream | e5 works fine |
| 04:10:00 | MrApathyCream | that's all i use |
| 04:10:05 | vogon_jeltz | uhh, not when I was working on the MD5 caching thing |
| 04:10:29 | MrApathyCream | You didn't know the secret handshake, I guess. |
| 04:10:57 | vogon_jeltz | haha |
| 04:11:18 | MrApathyCream | patch done, ... so what... maybe another hour? |
| 04:12:10 | vogon_jeltz | once I have the CVS, I can implement my "confusing" algorithm in an hour, and the "not confusing" one in less |
| 04:12:12 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: care to look at what i've got for the new proto so far? |
| 04:12:24 | captain_proton | go for the "not confusing" one |
| 04:12:35 | vogon_jeltz | uhh, "no" |
| 04:13:07 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: sure |
| 04:14:34 | MrApathyCream | got it thanks, will look at in a little bit |
| 04:14:49 | captain_proton | it doesn't have most of the protocol yet |
| 04:14:57 | MrApathyCream | np |
| 04:15:05 | captain_proton | actually the world transfer can be exactly the same as the file ;) |
| 04:15:14 | MrApathyCream | wanders off for a few minutes |
| 04:27:35 | vogon_jeltz | EntryZoneFlagList *pEZFL; <-- nice name |
| 04:27:45 | vogon_jeltz | it's pezfla |
| 04:30:16 | captain_proton | teeheee....its me and moose in a private :) |
| 04:51:50 | captain_proton | and a resounding victory for me :) |
| 04:53:29 | captain_proton | need to go print out some stuff |
| 04:53:39 | vogon_jeltz | k |
| 04:58:43 | captain_proton | comes back |
| 05:04:48 | captain_proton | how goes the patchedness? |
| 05:05:03 | vogon_jeltz | not started yet :P |
| 05:05:07 | vogon_jeltz | will start later |
| 05:18:36 | captain_proton | lazy bastard |
| 05:19:03 | vogon_jeltz | you rang? |
| 05:23:27 | captain_proton | lol |
| 05:55:32 | MrApathyCream | am back |
| 06:02:21 | MrApathyCream | waits with baited breath... |
| 06:02:35 | vogon_jeltz | kicks apathycream... *hard* |
| 06:02:44 | MrApathyCream | ooof |
| 06:02:47 | vogon_jeltz | I've gotta figure out how you guys implemented the thing first |
| 06:02:59 | vogon_jeltz | and a circuit breaker in my house just blew, ruining 7 days of uptime |
| 06:03:00 | MrApathyCream | pezfla is an array |
| 06:03:12 | MrApathyCream | each element represents a flag type. |
| 06:03:29 | MrApathyCream | Each item is itself an array of flagzones |
| 06:03:49 | MrApathyCream | I will use two functions that are already proto-ed in the code |
| 06:03:56 | MrApathyCream | getNextFlagEntryPos |
| 06:04:08 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 06:04:28 | MrApathyCream | isValidFlagEntryPos |
| 06:04:43 | MrApathyCream | getNextFlagEntryPos takes a flagtype. |
| 06:04:53 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, I got that bit |
| 06:05:24 | MrApathyCream | you need to find the array of flag zones for that flagtype, and pick a location govenerned by this list of zones |
| 06:05:28 | MrApathyCream | return in pos |
| 06:05:43 | MrApathyCream | Need to respect -fb, and set z = 0 if not so |
| 06:05:54 | MrApathyCream | If -fb is not set, you will only get zones that have pos.z == 0 |
| 06:06:16 | vogon_jeltz | d00d, I got it... you can shut up now :) |
| 06:06:25 | MrApathyCream | sniff, sniff |
| 06:06:39 | vogon_jeltz | :P |
| 06:06:57 | vogon_jeltz | just give me a while to mourn the loss of 7 days continuous uptime |
| 06:07:06 | MrApathyCream | i'm wearing black |
| 06:08:44 | MrApathyCream | OAN: Where'd you say ibot was documented? |
| 06:09:17 | vogon_jeltz | www.infobot.org |
| 06:09:41 | vogon_jeltz | -ibot- VERSION infobot 0.45.3 [Wurm] |
| 06:14:42 | | OK, MrApathyCream. |
| 06:14:42 | MrApathyCream | ibot, translate to german this is nifty |
| 06:15:00 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, x en de this is nifty |
| 06:15:02 | | vogon_jeltz: dieses ist nifty |
| 06:18:31 | MrApathyCream | BTW: To test need to alter world file |
| 06:18:35 | MrApathyCream | capn made it |
| 06:18:37 | MrApathyCream | box { |
| 06:18:39 | MrApathyCream | ... |
| 06:18:40 | MrApathyCream | } |
| 06:19:20 | vogon_jeltz | heh... I know |
| 07:13:57 | MrApathyCream | vogon_jeltz: surely by now.... |
| 07:14:04 | vogon_jeltz | STFU |
| 07:14:05 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 07:14:11 | vogon_jeltz | will work on it in a bit |
| 07:14:19 | | wish i knew, mrapathycream |
| 07:14:19 | MrApathyCream | ibot, what is ST? |
| 07:14:32 | vogon_jeltz | Shut The F*** Up |
| 07:14:39 | MrApathyCream | I got the FU part... :) |
| 07:14:51 | vogon_jeltz | :) |
| 07:15:09 | | vogon_jeltz is nothing but a loggerheaded gob of antique cat-hair-balls. |
| 07:15:09 | MrApathyCream | ibot, insult vogon_jeltz |
| 07:15:33 | MrApathyCream | :) fun toy |
| 07:15:39 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 07:15:47 | | vogon_jeltz: The server at bofh.engr.wisc.edu (port 666) appears to be down. |
| 07:15:47 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, excuse mrapathycream |
| 07:15:51 | vogon_jeltz | damn |
| 07:15:57 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 07:17:30 | MrApathyCream | goes searching for that elusive beauty sleep |
| 07:17:52 | vogon_jeltz | IIRC, YMMV but IANAL, so STFU |
| 07:39:40 | captain_proton | what are YMMV and IANAL? |
| 07:40:19 | vogon_jeltz | Your Mileage May Vary, I Am Not A Lawyer |
| 07:40:29 | captain_proton | mmm |
| 07:40:58 | captain_proton | how goes the patchedness? |
| 07:41:11 | vogon_jeltz | not at all, so STFU |
| 14:04:53 | Ruudi | hi |
| 14:05:00 | Chestal | hi Ruudi |
| 14:05:08 | Ruudi | how's goin' ? |
| 14:05:29 | Chestal | oh, so-so |
| 14:05:41 | Ruudi | or so oh-oh :)? |
| 14:05:56 | Chestal | I'm still tired from having a late lunch after doing sports |
| 14:06:00 | Chestal | drinking tea right now |
| 14:06:04 | Ruudi | http://www.valgamaa.ee/ogg/mixmagic.wav.mp3 i made some music |
| 14:06:08 | Chestal | what about yourself? |
| 14:06:53 | Ruudi | just chillin |
| 14:07:17 | Ruudi | got enough of that music makin thin i will play some :) you know what |
| 14:27:06 | | vogon_jeltz: i'm not following you... |
| 14:27:06 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, join #loki |
| 15:07:46 | vogon_jeltz | is away: killing time for a while |
| 16:34:54 | iLLf8d | the cheating is getting outta control heh |
| 16:37:26 | iLLf8d | greetings and salutations btw =) |
| 16:40:24 | iLLf8d | morning all =) |
| 16:48:27 | Chestal | hi ill |
| 16:50:18 | iLLf8d | how goes it |
| 16:50:33 | Chestal | oh, it's ok I guess |
| 16:50:42 | iLLf8d | I've been thinking about the cheating issues |
| 16:51:05 | iLLf8d | what about making bzflagops and perhaps using a dsa key to connect |
| 16:51:07 | Chestal | I haven't seen cheatign for a while, at least none that could be detected |
| 16:51:12 | iLLf8d | ie registered callsigns etc... |
| 16:51:23 | Chestal | yes, registered callsigns is the way to go |
| 16:51:24 | iLLf8d | oh i've seen some blatant ones |
| 16:51:26 | iLLf8d | even today |
| 16:51:38 | Chestal | I rarely play outside of ducati |
| 16:51:42 | iLLf8d | dude with gm pass through platforms etc |
| 16:52:02 | iLLf8d | the other day I was watching flying tanks |
| 16:52:03 | iLLf8d | nice |
| 16:52:09 | iLLf8d | dude jumped off arced down |
| 16:52:13 | iLLf8d | then arced back up |
| 16:52:21 | iLLf8d | and landed where was too far to jump |
| 16:52:22 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 16:52:37 | iLLf8d | I was beating them tho heh |
| 16:52:52 | iLLf8d | I like to shoot my mouth off at the cheaters with the , key |
| 16:52:52 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 16:53:08 | iLLf8d | glad you put in that targetted discussion feature |
| 16:53:19 | iLLf8d | its also probably why they're starting to use my callsign |
| 16:53:19 | Chestal | I guess we'll try to have registered callsigns for 1.8 |
| 16:53:26 | iLLf8d | definately |
| 16:53:33 | Chestal | still at the idea stage, though |
| 16:53:42 | iLLf8d | I was on and 2 tankensteins were on heh |
| 16:53:50 | iLLf8d | one tankenstein: and one tankenstein : |
| 16:54:26 | iLLf8d | I was talking to that cheater |
| 16:54:37 | iLLf8d | he was saying that a few of the server owners cheat |
| 16:54:53 | iLLf8d | dunno if he was just shooting his mouth off but he definately had a cheat tank |
| 16:55:02 | iLLf8d | was carrying too many special weapons at once |
| 16:55:21 | captain_proton | hey iLLf8d |
| 16:55:25 | iLLf8d | lo |
| 16:55:28 | Chestal | I don't get it why they're doign the cheating |
| 16:55:34 | Chestal | I mean, ok, it's fun if you do it once |
| 16:55:35 | iLLf8d | ehh... |
| 16:55:44 | captain_proton | Chestal: its because they suck at the game |
| 16:55:47 | iLLf8d | would be nice if they just got their own color tank or something |
| 16:55:51 | captain_proton | lol |
| 16:55:58 | iLLf8d | they usually suck even with the cheats |
| 16:55:59 | Chestal | cap: then I'd play another game |
| 16:56:25 | Chestal | problem is: we cannot automatically identify cheaters |
| 16:56:34 | iLLf8d | like I said I like that direct chat feature I always fuck with them when i'm kicking an obvious cheaters ass heh |
| 16:56:45 | Chestal | we can only make non-cheaters identify themselves via registration |
| 16:56:54 | iLLf8d | chestal you have bzflag ops and register nicks |
| 16:56:57 | iLLf8d | that would do it |
| 16:57:05 | iLLf8d | 1.8 maybe |
| 16:57:25 | Chestal | that woudl help if at least one op is present, that's not always the case |
| 16:57:30 | Chestal | or we would need a lot of them |
| 16:57:38 | iLLf8d | sometimes it takes a long time to see it too |
| 16:57:44 | Chestal | what I am fearign more are non-detectable cheats |
| 16:57:50 | Chestal | who knows how manypeopel are using them already |
| 16:57:51 | iLLf8d | sometimes you never see the cheat |
| 16:57:58 | captain_proton | in 1.8 we're planning to have registered nicks & a karma system |
| 16:58:20 | iLLf8d | what are you gonna tie into the karma system? |
| 16:58:29 | iLLf8d | your tank gonna experience breakdowns or something? |
| 16:58:32 | captain_proton | server joins |
| 16:58:48 | iLLf8d | oh I don't like that idea |
| 16:58:51 | captain_proton | players can adjust others' karma by 1 (player++/--) |
| 16:58:55 | iLLf8d | I switch teams constantly to load ballance |
| 16:59:00 | captain_proton | and server ops can set the minimum karma |
| 16:59:06 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 16:59:13 | iLLf8d | then its a popularity contest too |
| 16:59:18 | captain_proton | well, somewhat |
| 16:59:31 | iLLf8d | I get alot of people mad at me cause i'm beating them |
| 16:59:44 | iLLf8d | and those are the ones i'm not shooting my mouth off at in private convos |
| 16:59:45 | captain_proton | your influence on others' karma is proportional to your own karma |
| 17:00:08 | captain_proton | so the most respected players will have the most impact on the system |
| 17:00:16 | iLLf8d | isn't there some way to build a few checks into the code |
| 17:00:38 | Chestal | illf8d: only some easy cheats can be detected automatically by other clients |
| 17:00:40 | iLLf8d | or are the clients all responsible for their own tanks? |
| 17:00:43 | Chestal | illf8d: increased sped etc. |
| 17:00:50 | captain_proton | all the clients are responsible for themselves |
| 17:00:54 | iLLf8d | ah |
| 17:00:55 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 17:01:01 | iLLf8d | thats a problem then |
| 17:01:10 | captain_proton | we think the karma system will work pretty well |
| 17:01:21 | captain_proton | players with bad karma won't be able to join the best/fastest servers |
| 17:01:35 | iLLf8d | I dunno |
| 17:01:36 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 17:01:45 | iLLf8d | has enough personality clashes heh |
| 17:01:50 | captain_proton | and players who cheat will (hopefully) be dropped down so low they won't be able to join *any* servers pretty quickly |
| 17:02:03 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 17:02:13 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: yeah, but the really good players, who are all nice, will have more impact on your karma than random loosers |
| 17:02:38 | iLLf8d | yeah at least with nickserv it'll be better |
| 17:02:53 | Chestal | who says the good players are nice? :-) |
| 17:03:01 | iLLf8d | most of them are actually |
| 17:03:02 | captain_proton | Chestal: all the current good players are |
| 17:03:07 | Chestal | most of themare, ok |
| 17:03:08 | iLLf8d | or at least not cheap |
| 17:03:18 | Chestal | some are still in the process of maturing |
| 17:03:21 | captain_proton | even my friend DemonMoose, who acts like an asshole, is really quite nice |
| 17:03:21 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 17:03:31 | iLLf8d | never played him heh |
| 17:03:49 | Chestal | hmm, I guess I should post somethign about the planned ctf tournament / league |
| 17:03:51 | captain_proton | he's new (about 2-3 months), but quite good already |
| 17:03:54 | Chestal | so peopel can discuss |
| 17:03:57 | iLLf8d | oo when? |
| 17:04:05 | Chestal | never saw DemonMoose either |
| 17:04:08 | iLLf8d | I was playing 2 shot ctf no jumping the other day |
| 17:04:10 | iLLf8d | it rocked |
| 17:04:15 | iLLf8d | alot of work tho on the radar fingers |
| 17:04:18 | captain_proton | maybe you guys just play on the wrong servers ;) |
| 17:04:27 | Chestal | duacti 5156 is setup this way |
| 17:04:33 | Chestal | it's very fun with good teams and no lag |
| 17:04:34 | captain_proton | ducati 5156 is the bomb |
| 17:04:43 | iLLf8d | yeah it was fun |
| 17:04:45 | Chestal | lag is a big problem with ctf though |
| 17:04:51 | iLLf8d | alot of work tho like I said heh |
| 17:04:56 | Chestal | a lagged player can very easily grab the flag and bring it home |
| 17:05:00 | captain_proton | unfortunatly my lag at ducati is at least 150 :P |
| 17:05:02 | iLLf8d | my hand got tired and that usually doesn't happen |
| 17:05:22 | iLLf8d | I'm constantly trying to give out tips too |
| 17:05:24 | Chestal | I'm thinking about patchign the server though no player with lag > thresh accoridng to lagstats can grab team flag |
| 17:05:29 | iLLf8d | alot of people don't know how to use weapons yet |
| 17:05:35 | iLLf8d | ie lock the gm's etc... |
| 17:05:53 | Chestal | newsbies should press 'f' |
| 17:06:06 | iLLf8d | and alot of people accuse you of cheating if you can wrap gms |
| 17:06:07 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 17:06:13 | captain_proton | wrap gms? |
| 17:06:24 | iLLf8d | fire off over or on the side of buildings |
| 17:06:26 | Chestal | Nowadays I play withotu super flags most of the time |
| 17:06:29 | iLLf8d | and lock on late |
| 17:06:32 | Chestal | although I think I am actually better with flags |
| 17:06:35 | iLLf8d | so they wrap the object |
| 17:06:37 | captain_proton | ohhh |
| 17:06:46 | captain_proton | i learned to do that after about a month =/ |
| 17:07:16 | iLLf8d | I always give away as many tips as I can |
| 17:07:35 | iLLf8d | i'd rather have kickass fast paced games and get creamed =) |
| 17:07:52 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: danworld is fast paced :) |
| 17:08:21 | iLLf8d | I see you fixed some of that wierd slowdown code |
| 17:08:27 | iLLf8d | when you have too much building coverage |
| 17:08:33 | captain_proton | hrm? |
| 17:08:50 | iLLf8d | I used to have issues when say there was a platform almost the size of the field elevated |
| 17:09:11 | iLLf8d | and I jumped to my appoge and fired close to the floor of the platform |
| 17:09:20 | iLLf8d | my framerates would drop from 45fps -> 8 |
| 17:09:36 | captain_proton | hrm...i had nothing to do with that... |
| 17:09:38 | iLLf8d | then at cvsup 1.7e4 it was fixed |
| 17:09:40 | Chestal | only gets 45fps on an empty map |
| 17:09:46 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 17:09:56 | iLLf8d | empty may i'm good for about 140fps |
| 17:09:59 | Chestal | ill: I don't think anything with the rendering code has changed for a long time |
| 17:10:03 | iLLf8d | s/may/map |
| 17:10:07 | captain_proton | gets about 200 on an empty map |
| 17:10:12 | Chestal | I've had people complaingign that 1.7e4 on windwos would do rendering errors |
| 17:10:12 | captain_proton | never had it drop below 100 |
| 17:10:26 | Chestal | may it be the binary which is compiled/linkied to different libs or somethings? |
| 17:10:27 | iLLf8d | when paused it goes up tho |
| 17:10:53 | iLLf8d | I cvs my source since bzflag helped me fix the makefile |
| 17:11:10 | captain_proton | Chestal: i don't *think* so...i compiled it on standard 2k |
| 17:11:29 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 17:11:37 | iLLf8d | my gf hasn't tried flag in her xp yet |
| 17:11:41 | iLLf8d | we installed it yesterday |
| 17:12:00 | iLLf8d | i'm curious to see if her machine crashes and burns or what |
| 17:13:57 | iLLf8d | captain you may be able to reproduce the issue by |
| 17:14:27 | iLLf8d | or chestal I mean heh |
| 17:14:43 | iLLf8d | make a field with a crisscross building that almost covers the whole field |
| 17:14:49 | iLLf8d | ie the corners are the only areas exposed |
| 17:15:04 | iLLf8d | like say 10x10 patches of ground |
| 17:15:12 | iLLf8d | then jump on the building and fire |
| 17:15:21 | iLLf8d | i'll test it now forya |
| 17:19:36 | Chestal | I am using software rendering, with complex maps my client just crawls |
| 17:26:14 | iLLf8d | ah |
| 17:26:28 | iLLf8d | I'm having server issues for some reason |
| 17:26:31 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 19:09:56 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: what server issues? |
| 19:45:06 | ZEUS_bz | any here? |
| 19:48:57 | captain_proton | sorta |
| 20:08:45 | ZEUS_bz | know what u mean |
| 21:08:41 | Chestal | hi ZEUS |
| 21:08:46 | Chestal | which ZEUS are you? :-) |
| 21:09:09 | Chestal | ZEUS (H) or ZEUS aka FORTIFY or whatever |
| 21:11:03 | iLLf8d | uhm |
| 21:11:06 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 21:30:02 | Chestal | ZEUS: whcih Zeus are you? |
| 21:30:59 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 06:23:12) |
| 21:32:17 | ZEUS_bz | the old one |
| 21:32:29 | ZEUS_bz | the one changing to FORTITUDE |
| 21:36:02 | ZEUS_bz | when does the crowd get here for the discussions? |
| 21:38:47 | Chestal | probsbly not too soon |
| 21:39:13 | Chestal | I guess if we want a significant numebr of peopel we would have to agree on a time |
| 21:39:26 | Chestal | I just thought it a good idea to promote this channel |
| 21:39:35 | Chestal | maybe we'll get more regulars this way |
| 21:40:04 | ZEUS_bz | i need to get on a team |
| 21:40:13 | ZEUS_bz | thought this would be the best place |
| 21:40:30 | Chestal | Valoche will do the registration process, I guess he's workign onit right now |
| 21:40:40 | Chestal | he hoped he would find the time for it this week |
| 21:41:08 | Chestal | I don't know what team I will play in so far, let's see how it will work out |
| 21:41:24 | Chestal | I also guess that we will have at least 2 weeks between begin of registration and the first battles, maybe even more |
| 21:41:43 | ZEUS_bz | as long as you don't join forces with lupi and capn |
| 21:42:23 | Chestal | I thought about joinging lupi+tankmann for a German team :-) |
| 21:42:29 | Chestal | don';t know if they will play though |
| 21:43:01 | Chestal | I would hope for a good team of medicore players. I guess a well-trained team does not necessarily need to pplayers |
| 21:43:12 | Chestal | if they can work well together and have good CTF tactics |
| 21:43:38 | ZEUS_bz | that would be an unstoppable team |
| 21:44:03 | ZEUS_bz | all have good shot spread, good at richo and can hardly be killed |
| 21:56:17 | ZEUS_bz | gotta run for now, will chat later |
| 23:03:44 | captain_proton | hey MrApathyCream |
| 23:05:58 | mlp | hello all |
| 23:06:03 | | hello, captain_proton |
| 23:06:03 | captain_proton | hello |
| 23:06:22 | | mlp: wish i knew |
| 23:06:22 | mlp | ibot: who is mlp |
| 23:07:06 | mlp | anybody know who is mlp ? |
| 23:07:19 | mlp | somebody is using my nick name :( |
| 23:07:29 | captain_proton | where? |
| 23:08:16 | mlp | and he send his last private message in this #bzflag |
| 23:08:43 | MrApathyCream | hey! |
| 23:09:42 | | mlp_the_fake is nothing but an horn-beat puddle of uninspiring seagull puke. |
| 23:09:42 | MrApathyCream | ibot, insult mlp_the_fake |
| 23:10:07 | mlp | hehe |
| 23:10:30 | mlp | thanks and bye |
| 23:10:40 | MrApathyCream | wonders which mlp is the fake |
| 23:10:47 | captain_proton | heh |
| 23:24:06 | captain_proton | hi vogon_jeltz |
| 23:24:22 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 23:28:40 | cromwell|taking_break | anyone awake? |
| 23:28:53 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: patching? |
| 23:29:00 | cromwell|taking_break | hi |
| 23:29:14 | cromwell|taking_break | I'm having trouble getting 1.7e4 server started and client joined. |
| 23:29:33 | cromwell|taking_break | I start by typing bzflag -solo 5, then I start a server and attempt to join, but it gives me an error mesage. |
| 23:29:47 | cromwell|taking_break | Are you familiar with this, or should I be more verbose? |
| 23:30:19 | captain_proton | i've never tried to do it that way |
| 23:30:22 | cromwell|taking_break | Can you please help me figure out how I can get it to play a game? |
| 23:30:25 | captain_proton | i always start servers via the command line |
| 23:30:47 | cromwell|taking_break | May I have the commands please I'll give it a try. |
| 23:30:59 | captain_proton | just read the documentation |
| 23:34:55 | cromwell|taking_break | bzfs -pf -r -h -mp 20 -ms 2 -t +r -j +s 10 -sa -st 15 -sw 1 -ttl 255 -time 900 |
| 23:35:08 | captain_proton | looks reasonable |
| 23:36:00 | cromwell|taking_break | Connection failed. incompatible server version accept() |
| 23:36:15 | captain_proton | you're on e4 you said?! |
| 23:36:19 | cromwell|taking_break | nods. |
| 23:36:24 | cromwell|taking_break | I just installed it. |
| 23:36:40 | captain_proton | why not just play on a public server? |
| 23:36:40 | vogon_jeltz | do you have any other versions installed? |
| 23:36:46 | vogon_jeltz | say, 1.7d9? |
| 23:36:46 | cromwell|taking_break | /usr/games$ ./bzfs --help |
| 23:36:46 | cromwell|taking_break | bad argument --help |
| 23:36:47 | cromwell|taking_break | Copyright (c) 1993 - 2001 Tim Riker |
| 23:36:47 | cromwell|taking_break | BZFlag server, version 1.7e4 |
| 23:36:59 | cromwell|taking_break | s$ bzflag --version |
| 23:36:59 | cromwell|taking_break | BZFlag client, version 1.7e4 |
| 23:36:59 | cromwell|taking_break | protocol 1.7e |
| 23:37:05 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: you didn't answer me |
| 23:37:09 | vogon_jeltz | may I remind you that ./bzfs and bzfs aren't the same? |
| 23:37:13 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: not right now |
| 23:37:14 | cromwell|taking_break | they both appear to be the same, 1.7e4 |
| 23:37:41 | cromwell|taking_break | which -a bzfs reports that it only exists in /usr/games/ |
| 23:37:43 | vogon_jeltz | well, somehow, the client is connecting to an old server |
| 23:37:59 | vogon_jeltz | and that's incredibly odd :P |
| 23:38:16 | cromwell|taking_break | $ ps -Af | grep bzfs |
| 23:38:19 | cromwell|taking_break | no servers are running now. |
| 23:38:21 | cromwell|taking_break | I'll try again. |
| 23:38:59 | cromwell|taking_break | When I attempt to start the server I receive an error message: |
| 23:39:06 | cromwell|taking_break | $ bzfs -pf -r -h -mp 20 -ms 2 -t +r -j +s 10 -sa -st 15 -sw 1 -ttl 255 -time 900 |
| 23:39:06 | cromwell|taking_break | openMulticast: bind: Address already in use |
| 23:39:16 | vogon_jeltz | not a problem |
| 23:41:24 | cromwell|taking_break | That's odd, since I did a pkill bzfs right before. |
| 23:41:25 | captain_proton | what OS are you on? |
| 23:41:25 | cromwell|taking_break | GNU Linux. Linux 2.4.17, glibc 2.2.5 |
| 23:41:25 | cromwell|taking_break | I get the same error message regardless of whether I start it as root or a user. |
| 23:42:06 | cromwell|taking_break | Is the error mesage: openMulticast: bind: Address already in use |
| 23:42:08 | cromwell|taking_break | uncommon? |