irclog2html for bzflag on 2002.01.15

00:55:27MrApathyCreamwelcome mbarron
00:58:54mbarronthanks!
01:43:16BZFlagmbarron: heya! how's that new laptop?
01:47:32mbarronHey! i am reading docs on installing linux on my machine! any tips, i have a 100-150k a sec cable modem connection
01:48:44UlumuriHey... when I start a server and try to connect to it, it says something about incorrect server version accept()... is there an easy fix?
01:48:58vogon_jeltzyeah, upgradint
01:49:00vogon_jeltzupgrading, even
01:49:22Ulumurivogon_jeltz: I'm using 1.7e5.
01:49:26vogon_jeltz:/
01:49:38vogon_jeltzwhat is the version string it refers to?
01:49:49Ulumurivogon_jeltz: Perhaps files from a previous version have stuck around?
01:49:59Ulumurivogon_jeltz: It doesn't refer to any version.
01:50:01vogon_jeltznah, BZflag doesn't dynamically load libraries
01:50:06vogon_jeltzthat's odd
01:50:35vogon_jeltzyou're sure it doesn't mention BZFS107e or something?
01:50:51Ulumurivogon_jeltz: It says this when I try to connect with my client to my server.
01:50:57Ulumurivogon_jeltz: At the bottom of the screen.
01:51:06vogon_jeltznow, that *is* odd...
01:51:23vogon_jeltzI know that 1.7e5 has a broken server communications end, so try again with 1.7e4
01:52:23Ulumurivogon_jeltz: Just did. Didn't work. (However, I didn't remove 1.7e5 before I tried with e4.
01:52:33Ulumurivogon_jeltz: And same error with FX3.
01:52:48vogon_jeltz*shrug*
01:52:55vogon_jeltzare you launching the server in-game?
01:53:16Ulumurivogon_jeltz: Nope.
01:53:25vogon_jeltz:/
01:53:40vogon_jeltzis puzzled, and he's actually one of the developers :)
02:09:36MrApathyCreamHey Colin, i emailed you an updated patch to your email listed in info
02:10:03MrApathyCreamI believe it's all there, only problem is that the server keeps regenerating the world, and it's slightly different each time
02:10:11MrApathyCreamHaven't looked into it.
02:10:29MrApathyCreamwill eventually, anyhoo....
02:11:35MrApathyCreamAlso 1.7e5, seemed to have merge problems causing world download to fail... I made a patch for it, but probably someone with right
02:11:50MrApathyCreamaccess should go back and see if there's more diff/patch problems.
02:13:38MrApathyCreamBTW, I just wrote the cached world file to the getenv("TEMP") directory, but you can change it to whereever you want.
02:14:37vogon_jeltzheh
02:14:43vogon_jeltzTEMP isn't defined on Linux
02:14:54vogon_jeltzdeclare -x TCLLIBPATH="/usr/graphviz/lib"
02:14:55vogon_jeltzdeclare -x TERM="rxvt"
02:15:09vogon_jeltzI'll prolly put in some version #defines
02:15:15vogon_jeltzs/version/platform/
02:18:53MrApathyCreamok, doesn't matter to me.
02:19:25MrApathyCreamthe difference may be the time in the world file, haven't tracked it down
02:19:47MrApathyCreami tried memsetting to 0, before filling buffer, thought it might be packing problem, but alas
02:21:49vogon_jeltzit's prolly some random Heisenbug
02:25:29vogon_jeltzargh... stupid newline-clobbering Windows
02:26:24BZFlagMrApathyCream: did you find where the world downloading bug happened?
02:26:41BZFlagMrApathyCream: I have tested 1.7e5 and been able to play still.
02:26:58BZFlagMrApathyCream: oh, and _you_ have cvs write access.
02:27:33BZFlagit's just policy that only bug fixes go direct, others changes should go to SF patches database first.
02:28:21vogon_jeltzhmm...
02:28:23vogon_jeltzI wonder
02:28:38vogon_jeltzcan va_lists be passed as arguments?
02:29:01vogon_jeltzknows that they can be used to manage varargs, but he needs to be able to pass a variable number of arguments on to another function...
02:31:37vogon_jeltzactually, I need to pass variable numbers of arguments on to many functions :/
03:01:10captain_pistachioheeey people
03:09:51captain_pistachionobody around? :(
03:13:14captain_pistachiohttp://bzflag.org/new/
03:25:47captain_pistachiowhere is riker? :P
03:25:57vogon_jeltz was last seen on #bzflag 54 minutes and 20 seconds ago, saying: actually, I need to pass variable numbers of arguments on to many functions :/ [Tue Jan 15 02:31:37 2002]
03:25:57captain_pistachioibot, seen vogon_jeltz
03:26:08BZFlag was last seen on #blob 29 minutes and 57 seconds ago, saying: I think so, yes. [Tue Jan 15 02:56:11 2002]
03:26:08captain_pistachioibot, seen BZFlag
03:59:08vogon_jeltzis back
04:27:10captain_protonwanders back in
04:27:12captain_protonheyhey vogon_jeltz
04:27:19vogon_jeltzhi
04:27:28captain_protoni have a database :)
04:48:20captain_protonwb MrApathyCream
04:48:40MrApathyCreamhey! how goes it capn
04:48:48captain_protonhttp://bzflag.org/new/
04:48:49captain_proton:)
04:51:07MrApathyCreamanything new since yesterday?
04:51:26captain_protonits on bzflag.org :)
04:51:36captain_protonand its running off mysql instead of postgresql =/
04:51:37MrApathyCreamah... didn't even notice
04:52:12captain_protonand password changing is almost done - just need to mess with cookies a little
04:52:53MrApathyCreammake mine chocolate :)
04:53:21captain_protonyours is MrApathyCream|9cdfb439c7876e703e307864c9167a15|1
04:53:27captain_proton:)
04:53:34MrApathyCreamyummy
05:24:53MrApathyCreamhey hunter!
05:25:06[yfn]{GM}HunterHi apathy cream!
05:25:34[yfn]{GM}HunterWhat's happening?
05:25:43MrApathyCreamquiet here no ones around 'cept you
05:26:04vogon_jeltzmmh
05:26:19MrApathyCreamlurker
05:26:23MrApathyCream:)
05:26:28vogon_jeltzhehe
05:26:32[yfn]{GM}HunterI was playing bzflag, but I started lagging big time, so i quit.  Does anyone know how my lagstat can be low, but I go non-responsive so often?
05:26:49vogon_jeltzhas been listening to the 2 bits of the Hitchhiker's Guide he has on his box
05:26:52MrApathyCreamcould be server
05:27:17[yfn]{GM}HunterThat's what i thought.  It never used to happen in proton's house.  But now it does
05:27:33[yfn]{GM}HunterI upgraded the client in the meantime too
05:27:43vogon_jeltz[yfn]{GM}Hunter: the pings are just one packet, so they don't indicate if you're running into bandwidth limitations
05:27:57[yfn]{GM}Hunteris on a cable modem
05:28:11MrApathyCreamis jealous
05:28:12vogon_jeltzdo you have UDP on?
05:28:17[yfn]{GM}Hunteryup
05:28:39[yfn]{GM}HunterOf course upstream is lousy, but it is better than a 56k modem
05:28:53MrApathyCreamproton's has be inhabited by a bunch of anti-udp-ites.
05:29:06MrApathyCreamthey won't turn it on no matter how cajoling one does
05:29:09vogon_jeltzw00t! found another person with a set of the Hitchhiker's Guide in MP3 format
05:29:12[yfn]{GM}HunterPlus, he always gets a bunch of cheaters
05:29:41vogon_jeltz[yfn]{GM}Hunter: heh... I'd kick them for you (I have the admin pass), but I don't play BZ much
05:29:52MrApathyCreamme too
05:29:55vogon_jeltzjust tends to hack up some code whenever he has the time
05:30:04[yfn]{GM}Hunterthey forgot to tell me the new one. :)
05:30:13MrApathyCreamproblem is they can just reconnect
05:30:33MrApathyCreamit in itself becomes a game kick join kick join....
05:31:32vogon_jeltzmight implement a kick lock-out time period
05:31:33[yfn]{GM}Huntervogon, how do you make your name highlight in xchat?
05:31:49MrApathyCreamupgraded client to what? (curious)
05:32:02MrApathyCreamknows just learned
05:32:06vogon_jeltzSettings -> Preferences -> IRC -> Highlighting
05:32:10[yfn]{GM}HunterHrmm, I'm using debian unstable, whatever that is.
05:32:23MrApathyCreamdang unix heads
05:32:54[yfn]{GM}Hunterwhat version of xchat do you have.  Mine is 1.8.7
05:33:12vogon_jeltzI'm on 1.8.4
05:33:22[yfn]{GM}Hunterthe menus are slightly different.
05:33:37vogon_jeltzhmm
05:33:47vogon_jeltzSettings -> Setup, rather
05:33:49[yfn]{GM}HunterWhat i meant was, did you type in [yfn]{GM}Hunter: at the beginning of your text, or is there a shortcut.
05:34:00[yfn]{GM}Huntervogon_jeltz: like this
05:34:09vogon_jeltzI just type "[yf" and let the nick-complete do its thanf
05:34:13vogon_jeltzthang, even
05:34:31[yfn]{GM}Huntervogon_jeltz: AHA!  The infamous tab key, thanks
05:34:45vogon_jeltzSettings -> Setup -> Interface -> IRC Input/Output -> Nick Name Completion
05:35:03vogon_jeltzI have mine set up to do it automatically, so pbbbbt!
05:35:08vogon_jeltz:)
05:35:20[yfn]{GM}Huntervogon_jeltz: like this?
05:35:24MrApathyCreamvogon_jeltz: [yfn]{GM}Hunter: cool
05:35:26vogon_jeltzheh
05:35:49vogon_jeltzMrApathyCream: get X-Chat for yourself
05:35:55MrApathyCreamwin32
05:35:58vogon_jeltzMrApathyCream: http://www.xchat.org
05:36:04vogon_jeltzMrApathyCream: there's a version for win32
05:36:08MrApathyCreamok
05:36:15[yfn]{GM}Hunterhow does ibot work?
05:36:18[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, help!
05:36:23Since Sat Jan  5 01:52:45 2002, there have been 124 modifications and 293 questions.  I have been awake for 10 days, 3 hours, 43 minutes, 38 seconds this session, and currently reference 3766 factoids. Addressing is in require mode.
05:36:23vogon_jeltzibot, status
05:36:43bugger all, i dunno, [yfn]{gm}hunter
05:36:43[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, what does meq stand for?
05:36:51[yfn]{GM}Huntertoo bad
05:37:02MrApathyCreamhehe
05:37:10MrApathyCreamis downloading xchat
05:37:28[yfn]{GM}Huntervogon_jeltz: do you have the whole hitchhiker mp3 set?
05:37:34vogon_jeltz[yfn]{GM}Hunter: nope
05:37:46vogon_jeltz[yfn]{GM}Hunter: just the prologue, fits 3 and 4, and part of fit 1 right now
05:38:21the meaning of life is "eat, drink, and be merry... for tommorow we are to die"
05:38:21MrApathyCreamibot, what is the meaning of life?
05:38:21[yfn]{GM}HunterHow do they compare to the books?
05:38:36MrApathyCreamhmmm, thought 42
05:38:41hmmm... 42 is the answer
05:38:41[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, what is 42?
05:38:45[yfn]{GM}Huntersee?
05:39:02vogon_jeltz[yfn]{GM}Hunter: haven't listened to enough of them
05:39:19[yfn]{GM}Hunterwhat kind of chat bot is ibot?
05:39:26it has been said that i am the evil twin WITHOUT the goatee
05:39:26[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, what are you?
05:39:32vogon_jeltz[yfn]{GM}Hunter: http://www.infobot.org
05:39:50MrApathyCreamit's just a guy in cincinnati, typing feverishly
05:41:04[yfn]{GM}Hunter: huh?
05:41:04[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, meq stands for malnourished evil quiches
05:41:11[yfn]{GM}Hunterdarn
05:41:33mrapathycream: wish i knew
05:41:33MrApathyCreamibot, What is massive eqo quotient?
05:41:44vogon_jeltz"... and more controversial than Oolon Colluphid's trilogy of philosophical blockbusters, 'Where God Went Wrong', 'Some More of God's Greatest Blunders', and 'Who is This God Person, Anyway?'
05:41:49vogon_jeltz"
05:41:50OK, [yfn]{GM}Hunter.
05:41:50[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, meq is Mediocre Elephantine Queens
05:41:57hmmm... meq is Mediocre Elephantine Queens
05:41:57[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, what is meq?
05:42:01[yfn]{GM}Hunteryay!
05:42:01MrApathyCreamlol
05:42:03vogon_jeltz: I forgot meq
05:42:03vogon_jeltzibot, forget meq
05:42:11[yfn]{GM}Huntertoo bad
05:42:32MrApathyCreamis attempting to switch to xchat, will be back
05:42:43[yfn]{GM}Hunterhooray, he's gone!
05:42:56[yfn]{GM}HunterWho's computer is the bot on?
05:43:12vogon_jeltzTim's
05:43:26[yfn]{GM}HunterDon't want to mess with "the man"
05:43:58vogon_jeltz: wish i knew
05:43:58vogon_jeltzibot, meq is <reply> FIXME: What the flying f0rk does meq mean\?
05:44:04vogon_jeltz: bugger all, i dunno
05:44:04vogon_jeltzibot, meq is <reply> FIXME: \What the flying f0rk does meq mean\?
05:44:12vogon_jeltzdamn
05:44:33[yfn]{GM}Hunterto quote Arthur Dent, "Err."
05:44:41vogon_jeltzheh
05:44:58MrApathyCreamdid i make it?
05:45:06OK, [yfn]{GM}Hunter.
05:45:06[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, meq is Damned if I know!
05:45:08vogon_jeltzyup
05:45:25...but meq is Damned if I know!...
05:45:25vogon_jeltzibot, meq is <reply>Damned if I know!
05:45:32...but meq is Damned if I know!...
05:45:32vogon_jeltzibot, no, meq is <reply>Damned if I know!
05:45:37vogon_jeltzf00
05:45:42[yfn]{GM}Hunterdon't encourage him
05:45:49vogon_jeltz is a wonderful human being
05:45:49[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, who is vogon_jeltz?
05:45:53vogon_jeltz: I forgot meq
05:45:53vogon_jeltzibot, forget meq
05:46:00OK, vogon_jeltz.
05:46:00vogon_jeltzibot, no, meq is <reply>Damned if I know!
05:46:10Damned if I know!
05:46:10vogon_jeltzibot, meq
05:46:16bzflag is probably TimRiker or a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ debian arm linux contains a version that will run on the ipaq at like 6 fps
05:46:16[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, what is bzflag?
05:46:54bugger all, i dunno, mrapathycream
05:46:54MrApathyCreamibot, what is yfn
05:46:59[yfn]{GM}Hunter: sorry...
05:46:59[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, attack vogon_jeltz!
05:47:13'[yfn]{GM}Hunter' is 12% lame, vogon_jeltz
05:47:13vogon_jeltzibot, nickometer [yfn]{GM}Hunter
05:47:20MrApathyCreamlol
05:47:38OK, MrApathyCream.
05:47:38MrApathyCreamibot, yfn is <reply>your f'n nuts
05:47:38'vogon_jeltz' is 2% lame, vogon_jeltz
05:47:38vogon_jeltzibot, nickometer vogon_jeltz
05:47:44vogon_jeltzw00t
05:47:44your f'n nuts
05:47:44MrApathyCreamibot, what is yfn
05:47:44...but yfn is <reply>your f'n nuts...
05:47:44[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, yfn is "Your friendly Neighborhood", retard
05:47:52'MrApathyCream' is 49% lame, vogon_jeltz
05:47:52vogon_jeltzibot, nickometer MrApathyCream
05:47:53[yfn]{GM}Hunter: I forgot yfn
05:47:53[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, forget yfn
05:47:54OK, [yfn]{GM}Hunter.
05:47:54[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, yfn is "Your friendly Neighborhood", retard
05:48:03yfn is "Your friendly Neighborhood", retard
05:48:03[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, what is yfn
05:48:05MrApathyCreamhey how come so hy
05:48:21[yfn]{GM}Hunter: what?
05:48:21[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, you've got attitude
05:48:41OK, MrApathyCream.
05:48:41MrApathyCreamibot, MrApathyCream is 100% lame
05:48:41[yfn]{GM}Hunterhow come I'm so much more lame?
05:48:59'MrApathyCream' is 49% lame, MrApathyCream
05:48:59MrApathyCreamibot, nickometer MrApathyCream
05:49:05vogon_jeltzbecause of all the random braces and crap you put in
05:49:12vogon_jeltzMrApathyCream: you can't change it
05:49:21MrApathyCreamreally???!!!!?!?!{hard to believe}
05:49:23[yfn]{GM}HunterBah!  I just do that to make fun of the meq clan
05:49:40'MrApathyCream' is 49% lame, MrApathyCream
05:49:40MrApathyCreamibot, nickometer MrApathyCream
05:49:41vogon_jeltzMrApathyCream: it's determined by the number of case-changes, non-alphanumeric characters, and l33tspeak in your nick
05:50:09wish i knew, mrapathycream
05:50:09MrApathyCreamibot, what is 133t?
05:50:14vogon_jeltz[yfn]{GM}Hunter: *plonk*... seeing as how I'm a member of [meq], I am now ignoring you
05:50:16[yfn]{GM}HunterWell, this isn't the ibot channel
05:50:56[yfn]{GM}HunterFine, he'll just miss the most entertaining part of the conversation
05:51:35[yfn]{GM}HunterSo, Mr Cream man, how's it hanging?
05:51:54MrApathyCreamlower than usual
05:52:03[yfn]{GM}Hunterwarm day?
05:52:52[yfn]{GM}HunterI can't believe how easy it is to piss off the meq clan.  They're sooooo finicky.
05:53:13MrApathyCreamtrying out sends
05:53:17[yfn]{GM}Hunter: what?
05:53:17[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, say hello to vogon_jeltz
05:53:46wish i knew, mrapathycream
05:53:46MrApathyCreamibot, what can you do?
05:54:11vogon_jeltz/msg ibot help
05:54:16[yfn]{gm}hunter: bugger all, i dunno
05:54:16[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, vogon is a big baby who should stop ignoring yfn GM Hunter
05:54:51OK, MrApathyCream.
05:54:51MrApathyCreamibot, GM is <reply>gas monkey
05:54:59gas monkey
05:54:59MrApathyCreamibot, what is GM
05:55:28[yfn]{gm}hunter: no idea
05:55:28[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, vogon is <reply>A big baby who ignores people too easily
05:55:35[yfn]{gm}hunter: wish i knew
05:55:35[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, what is vogon
05:55:44OK, MrApathyCream.
05:55:44MrApathyCreamibot, gas monkey is <reply>gm
05:55:49gas monkey
05:55:49MrApathyCreamibot, what is GM
05:55:57[yfn]{GM}Hunterhave fun
05:56:00MrApathyCreamcya
05:56:03[yfn]{GM}Hunterwith your little toy
05:56:09[yfn]{GM}Hunteri'm not going anywhere
05:56:13MrApathyCreamah
05:56:15[yfn]{GM}Hunter: I forgot gm
05:56:15[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, forget GM
05:56:32...but a is command unknown. restarting system in 5 sec....
05:56:32MrApathyCreamibot, a is b
05:56:36...but a is command unknown. restarting system in 5 sec....
05:56:36MrApathyCreamibot, A is B
05:56:39OK, [yfn]{GM}Hunter.
05:56:39[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, GM is "Vogon should not ignore yfn"
05:56:45GM is probably "Vogon should not ignore yfn"
05:56:45[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, what is GM
05:57:00vogon_jeltz: I forgot gm
05:57:00vogon_jeltzibot, forget GM
05:57:03bzfs is using select() to determine when outgoing pipes are writeable.
05:57:03MrApathyCreamibot, what is bzfs
05:57:21OK, [yfn]{GM}Hunter.
05:57:21[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, GM is "Vogon_jeltz is acting like a big baby"
05:57:22hmmm... GM is "Vogon_jeltz is acting like a big baby"
05:57:22[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, what is GM
05:58:05[yfn]{GM}HunterWell, that didn't get a response. He's probably trying to boot me
05:58:10[yfn]{GM}Hunteror something.
05:58:20[yfn]{GM}HunterI just wanted to talk to him.  **sniff**
05:58:48mrapathycream: bugger all, i dunno
05:58:48MrApathyCreamibot, where is the lost vogon_jeltz support group?
05:59:35[yfn]{GM}Hunter: excuse me?
05:59:35[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, say something interesting
05:59:42[yfn]{GM}Hunter: what?
05:59:42[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, you heard me!
06:00:07OK, [yfn]{GM}Hunter.
06:00:07[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, stop stalling.  You are boring
06:00:16well, vogon_jeltz is a wonderful human being
06:00:16MrApathyCreamibot, where is vogon_jeltz?
06:00:20i am the evil twin WITHOUT the goatee
06:00:20[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, what are you?
06:00:41MrApathyCream: I forgot vogon_jeltz
06:00:41MrApathyCreamibot, forget vogon_jeltz
06:00:54OK, MrApathyCream.
06:00:54MrApathyCreamibot, vogon_jeltz is <reply> missing in action
06:01:04missing in action
06:01:04MrApathyCreamibot, where is vogon_jeltz?
06:01:09[yfn]{GM}HunterMrApathyCream: you're having too much fun
06:01:23MrApathyCreamyes i am
06:01:25[yfn]{GM}Hunter: I forgot gm
06:01:25[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, forget GM
06:01:51OK, [yfn]{GM}Hunter.
06:01:51[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, cream is <reply> That stuff you put in coffee to make it drinkable.
06:02:33OK, [yfn]{GM}Hunter.
06:02:33[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, apathy is <reply> Trying to beat yfn gm hunter in a 1 on 1 bzflag game.
06:02:48[yfn]{GM}Hunterthat doesn't really make sesnse, tho
06:02:58mrapathycream: i haven't a clue
06:02:58MrApathyCreamibot, what is apathy cream?
06:03:12rumour has it tim riker is http://rikers.org/ or http://rikers.org/bookmarks.html or http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/Tim_Riker__TimR_CalderaSystems.com_.html
06:03:12[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, who is tim riker?
06:03:33OK, MrApathyCream.
06:03:33MrApathyCreamibot, apathy cream is <reply>a balm that protects against the idiocy of middle management.
06:03:40a balm that protects against the idiocy of middle management.
06:03:40MrApathyCreamibot, what is apathy cream?
06:03:40[yfn]{GM}Hunterheha
06:04:23bugger all, i dunno, [yfn]{gm}hunter
06:04:23[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, Mr Apathy Cream is <reply> An xchat and ibot guru who happens to play bzflag.
06:04:28[yfn]{GM}Hunterbah!
06:04:36MrApathyCreambah
06:04:39i haven't a clue, [yfn]{gm}hunter
06:04:39[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, MrApathyCream is <reply> An xchat and ibot guru who happens to play bzflag.
06:04:47[yfn]{GM}Hunternuts!
06:04:53MrApathyCreamthings ibot is tired
06:05:06[yfn]{GM}Hunterthinks ibot is played
06:07:38[yfn]{GM}Hunterthinks He and Cream have too much free time.
06:18:03[yfn]{GM}HunterWell, all I can say is that proton knows I have fun with meq clan, and he doesn't ignore me.  Do you, captain proton?
06:18:24[yfn]{GM}Hunter**weeping** **weeping**
06:20:04[yfn]{GM}Hunteris away: I'm busy
06:20:09[yfn]{GM}Hunteris back (gone 00:00:05)
06:21:34[yfn]{GM}Hunteris away: Who said the extremely famous phrase: "A shark on whisky, that's mighty risky.  A shark on beer is a beer engineer."?
07:25:36MrApathyCreamvogon_jeltz: still lurking?
07:32:42captain_protonwanders back in
07:44:25vogon_jeltzmeh
07:44:33captain_protonheyhey vogon_jeltz
07:44:42captain_protonignores [yfn]{GM}Hunter
07:44:49vogon_jeltzhi
07:45:10captain_protonmourns the breakage of windows
07:47:37vogon_jeltzw00t... got the first fit of THGTTG while I was away
07:48:19captain_protonheh
07:48:29captain_protonis working on his red dwarf collection
07:48:37vogon_jeltzI have 3 and 4 already :)
14:29:48vogon_jeltzis away: sl33p
15:57:38[yfn]{GM}Hunteris back (gone 09:36:04)
15:57:48[yfn]{GM}Hunter: The co-locator cannot verify the frame-relay gateway to the ISDN server.
15:57:48[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, excuse
15:58:13yfn is "Your friendly Neighborhood", retard
15:58:13[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, what is yfn
15:58:30Damned if I know!
15:58:30[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, what is meq
15:59:57okay, [yfn]{GM}Hunter.
15:59:57[yfn]{GM}Hunteribot, meq is also Malevolent Equestrian Quacks
17:13:12captain_proton: I forgot meq
17:13:12captain_protonibot, forget meq
17:13:16no idea, captain_proton
17:13:16captain_protonibot, meq?
18:00:16valoche: bugger all, i dunno
18:00:16Valocheibot, what is meq
18:00:23Valocheand hi dudes, if you're here
18:01:46Valocheslaps Chestal around a bit with a large trout
18:01:51Valocheoopsa
18:27:54i haven't a clue, not_cheater
18:27:54not_cheateribot, what is meq
18:29:19ChestalI always miss Valoche
18:32:34not_cheateris away: I'm not cheating at bzflag.
18:34:29Chestalhi not_cheater
18:34:35not_cheateris back (gone 00:02:02)
18:34:46not_cheaterCan't you see that I'm away, sheesh
18:34:52not_cheaterhi chestal
18:35:22Chestalhi, whoever-you-might-be
18:35:44not_cheaterWell, let's just say that I'm somebody, too.
18:36:11not_cheaterBut I'm definitely not cheater
18:36:27Chestalheh, nobody is cheating at bzflag
18:36:52not_cheaterI've seen cheater cheating on several servers.
18:37:06Chestalmost cheats are very obvious
18:37:22Chestaland with the others you can't really tell the difference
18:37:39not_cheaterLike the narrow cheat?  I swear that too many people are using that one.
18:38:29Chestalyes, a cheat which modifies the collision detection is very hard to detect, and lag makes it evenharder
18:38:44Chestalthat's one of the worst possible cheats
18:39:02not_cheaterI always notice when I shoot someone from the side, but I can't headon.
18:39:49Chestalif I wanted to cheat I would just make the radius used for collision detection smaller
18:39:55Chestalonly by 20% or so
18:40:03not_cheaterlike a virtual tiny cheat
18:40:23Chestalyes, but to a smaller amount, lest it woul dbe too obvious
18:40:37Chestalit would give me a statistical advantage and noone would ever notivce
18:40:41not_cheaterWell, since I'm not programming cheats myself, I won't get right on that.
18:41:03not_cheaterI've got to go, but I'm not going to program any cheats.
18:41:23Chestalgood cheating ;-)
18:41:30not_cheatersure, but not me!
18:41:33Chestalcare to tell your callsign?
18:41:40not_cheaterNo way!
18:41:52not_cheaterI'll tell you when this channel lightens up!
18:42:15not_cheaterSome people can be really mean here
18:42:30Chestalthey are all very nice actually :-)
18:42:44not_cheaterGod!  Now I've just cursed myself again!
18:42:56not_cheaterI meant to say that you're really nice, guys
18:43:13ChestalI like ibot the best
18:43:20not_cheaterbye
18:43:24Chestalbye nc
18:43:27not_cheater: excuse me?
18:43:27not_cheateribot, you're the best
18:43:32not_cheateris away: I'm not cheating at bzflag.
18:51:27ValocheThere am I, hi
18:51:43Chestalhi!
18:51:55Valocheit's been a long time
18:52:13Chestalon IRC, yes. I think I saw you once on my CTF server?
18:52:18Chestalyou have been busy?
18:52:29Valocheyep, I had a lot of work... at work
18:52:39Chestalwork at work is no good ;-)
18:52:47Valoche(;
18:52:56ValocheI'd love to have another tourney...........
18:53:17Valocheusing CTF of course, it's so much fun
18:53:27ChestalI'd like to have that also
18:53:41Chestalsome peopel are asking about a tourney from time to time
18:53:51Valocheyep, I saw that on ezboard
18:53:56Chestalbut no one is makeing any suggestions on the boards etc.
18:54:30ValocheI finally found a php server which has the mail() function enabled... that'd be far more easier to register people
18:54:49Chestalthat would be nice, although I think registration worked fine last time
18:55:00Chestalexcept that the time obviously was too short
18:55:02ValocheI've been thinking; the last tourney was far too long, we could split it across several days
18:55:34Chestalyes, I guess 3-4 hours at one day is the absolute maximum
18:55:58Chestalok, for a CTF tournament, which issues must be resolved?
18:56:11ValocheTEAMS
18:56:23Chestalyes, I guess we wnt fixed teams?
18:56:25Valochedo we register teams or individuals???
18:57:07Chestalfixed teams or randomly constituted teams for each round
18:57:15ChestalI guess fixed teams is better
18:57:37Valocheor both? some players will be willing to play, while not being in an existing team
18:58:14Chestalthere are some tankers which already come in bunches, so they would most probably play in th same team (e.g. the Zees)
18:58:28Valochemuh? dunno about'em
18:58:34ChestalFantaZee, BeZee, ...
18:58:38Valocheah oki ;-)
18:58:41Chestaljust an example
18:58:58Chestalwhat team size? 3?
18:59:03Valochehow many tanks in a team? I think 3 ... got it!
18:59:16Chestallag is a big issue with ctf
18:59:33Chestala lagged tank is the best choice for stealign the flag
18:59:56ChestalI am not sure that ducati is the best choice for lag-free server
18:59:58ValocheI know :-( Maybe a server hack could prevent laggy tanks to pick up the flag?
19:00:03Chestalboogie might be better
19:00:21Valocheyep, boogie is a good choice ama
19:00:31Valochewho's the admin of boogie?
19:00:38Chestalkill-9 I think
19:01:05Chestalbut back to the teams first
19:01:17Valocheyep; so let's say 3 tanks/team, no more, no less
19:01:28Chestalone easy approach would be to let people assign themselves to a team on registering
19:01:49Chestalyou can put yourself in an existing team with less than 3 tanks
19:01:52Chestalor into a new team
19:02:22Valochelooks right, but we must allow one to also register a whole team in one shot
19:03:15Chestalwhat exactly was the issue with email and registerign last time? I forgot the details
19:03:24Valochewell, I had to send the mails by hand
19:03:31Chestalah
19:03:40Valocheas I said a few lines above, I found a server with mail() enabled
19:03:53Valocheso it won't be a problem this time
19:04:07Chestalok, someone who wants to register a whole team would have to fill in the other team members' email adresses
19:04:18Chestaland those will have to confirm later
19:04:19Valocheexactly
19:04:22Valocheditto
19:04:57Chestalthere still we be some uncofrmied people or peopel not showing up on tournament day
19:05:45Valochehm... we should close the registrations about a week before D day...
19:05:56Valoche...and deal with the incomplete teams
19:06:27Valoche...asking people to switch teams
19:06:38Chestalwe'll do that manually?
19:07:05ValocheI guess yes
19:07:32Chestalok, let's thay for now we solved the team issue
19:07:37ValocheOK
19:07:40Valochenow, the scoring
19:07:55Chestalnormal CTF team scoring?
19:08:13Chestalflag capture gives +1
19:08:15Valocheyes, but time limited or score goal?
19:08:36Chestaltimed games are easier to schedule
19:08:42ValocheI agree
19:09:18ChestalI guess there's still not the best support for timed games in the server, though
19:09:28Chestalremember the 'do not play before countdown reaches ...'?
19:09:34Valocheyes :-/
19:10:04ChestalI guess there is a new admin comand in 1.7e4 server
19:10:15Chestalreset game or something, haven't looked at it
19:10:18Valocheflags up?
19:10:20ChestalI'm running a patched e3 still
19:10:46Valochewhat about a server patch to hold the team's flags until the timer reaches... ???
19:10:55Valocheor until a special admin command is issued?
19:11:16Chestalhmm, good idea we could just hide the flags
19:11:23Chestalthat would be quite easy to patch
19:11:29ValochenI think so
19:12:16Chestalwith timed game there might be a draw
19:12:29Valochehm... right
19:12:34Chestalwill we do elimination rounds or a league?
19:13:01Valochea league would be more fun, and generate funny threads on the forums
19:13:44Chestalhard to estimate how many players / teams we will have
19:13:58Valochelast time we had 32 registrations, so let's count on 10 teams
19:14:21Chestalso there would be 5 matches in a single round
19:14:35Valochehm... we had 23 confirmations
19:14:55Chestalnumber of players might be bigger this time if registration period is longer
19:15:07Valochegood point
19:15:11Chestaland I guess we have to do even more advertising, a lot of peopel seem to have missed it completely
19:15:25captain_protontournament?
19:15:30Valocheyep :-)
19:15:42Chestalcapt: yep, planning phase :-)
19:15:47captain_proton:)
19:15:54captain_protonmaybe this time i'll be able to participate
19:15:59Chestalwith a league, draws are no problem
19:16:02Valochewe'll have to advertise in every web site talking about BZ
19:16:08ValocheChest: yep
19:16:21Chestalvictory: 3 points, draw: 1 point, loss: 0 points
19:16:31Valochefootbalish ;-)
19:16:33Valochebut good
19:16:46captain_protoni can set my server announcement to advertise it
19:16:53Chestalwe could keep an additional score flags captures/losses
19:17:06Valochefor "goal average" ;-) good idea
19:17:23Chestalwhat about duration of a match?
19:17:35Chestal30minutes?
19:17:48Valocheif we have a league, we can spawn the tourn.... so 30 minutes looks good
19:18:37Valochecaptain: advertize: "BZFlag CTF League Tournament Real Soon Now"
19:18:46Chestalwhat do you mean by 'spawn'?
19:18:59Valochehm...
19:19:02Chestalmaybe as soon as bzflag 1.8 ;-)
19:19:04Valocheibot: xlate fr en spawn
19:19:10Valoche: :(
19:19:18Valocheer... spread?
19:19:29Chestalspread make smore sense to me :-)
19:19:30Valochespread the tourney among several days?
19:19:45Chestalibot: x fr en spawn
19:19:46Chestal: spawn
19:19:52Chestal: i'm not following you...
19:19:52Chestalibot: silly bot
19:19:54Valocheibot: x en fr spawn
19:20:00Valoche: :(
19:20:12Chestalibot: x en fr spread
19:20:15Valocheforget it, Paul ;-)
19:20:17Chestal: :(
19:20:23Chestalhmm, strange
19:20:26Valochehm... ibot is broken
19:20:36Chestalor babelfish is, oh well
19:20:55Chestalsay we have 10 teams
19:20:57Valocheok, so a league championship COULD last for weeks, which looks good (easier to schedule)
19:21:09Valochewe can have 3 matches a "day"
19:21:16Chestalthat would be 9*5 matches
19:21:24Chestalehno
19:21:32Chestal9*5/2 matches, hmm
19:21:37ChestalI am confused
19:21:47Valoche22.5 matches ?!? ;-)))
19:22:11Chestalit's 9*5 I guess
19:22:30Valocheit's 9+8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1
19:22:37Chestalif we want every team to play every other team once
19:22:47Valoche9+...+1 = 45 ;-)
19:23:1345
19:23:13Chestalibot: 9+8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1
19:23:17Chestalyep :-)
19:23:22Valochewell, I ran "calc.exe" ;-))))))))))))
19:23:3245
19:23:32Chestalibot 9*10/2
19:23:38Chestalthat's the formula
19:23:39Valochebetter
19:23:43Valochen(n+1)/2
19:23:47Valocheno!
19:23:51Valochen(n-1)/2
19:23:55Valochewhatever, thats 45!!!!!!!
19:24:10captain_protonheh
19:24:23Valochewe need approximately 15 "days" for the championship
19:24:27Chestalon a single day, how many matches should there be for a single team?
19:24:40Chestaldon't you think we can do 5 matches a day?
19:24:47Chestalso each team plays exactly once
19:24:492.5
19:24:49Valocheibot: 5*30/60
19:24:59Valochethat could work
19:25:31Chestalwe would not neccesarily have to do the matches one after another
19:26:05Valocheyou mean spread ;-) them ?
19:26:24Chestalwell, have 2 of them at the same time for example
19:26:39Valocheah... didn't think about that ;-) but good idea
19:26:44Chestalwe could even do them on different server locations
19:27:07Chestalif other admins participate
19:27:19Valocheyes: one in Europe, one in the US would be perfection
19:27:51Chestalit would be nice to have some lag stats for different serevrs
19:28:15Chestalof course dialin peopel will always have bad lag
19:28:18Valochewe could have a list of servers available and ask the registrants to pick the one on which they lag less
19:29:19Chestalwe would have to advertise to find admins
19:29:49Valocheyep
19:29:50captain_protonoffers to host one in the US
19:30:06Valocheokay, we have one
19:30:13Valocheit's decks, right?
19:30:19Chestalcap: do you have one running right now?
19:30:25Chestalcap: would liek to measure my lag there
19:30:27captain_protoni think so
19:30:36captain_protonlooks like its up
19:30:54ValocheBRB
19:35:47Valochehelloooooo?
19:35:54captain_protonback
19:36:03Chestalbob+shrek had major lag
19:36:10Chestalbut might be problem on their side
19:36:19Valochein fact, I've never seen someone having good lag at decks
19:36:28Valochecap: could you traceroute www.nerim.net for me ?
19:36:29ChestalI had approx. 160ms
19:36:45ChestalI am used to have <30ms though :-)
19:37:29ChestalValoche: I get 20ms to www.nerim.net from my desktop machine
19:37:44Chestalthat's good
19:37:56Chestalfor transatlatnic, I gues you can't get under 100ms
19:38:05Valochewow, yes it is, I have 70ms
19:38:12captain_proton166ms ping to nerim
19:38:25Valoche166+70 = my lag, that's ok
19:38:25captain_protonso yeah, separate servers are probably best
19:38:59Chestalcapt: 130ms to your machine
19:39:38ChestalI am at 10mbit/s right now :-|
19:39:48Chestalsilly 100mbit/s Switch seems to be buggy
19:39:56captain_protonheh
19:39:59abstractlo fellas
19:40:02Chestalhi abs
19:40:03captain_protonheyhey abstract
19:40:08Valochehello
19:40:20ChestalValoche: ok, so we might have sveral possible servers
19:40:29captain_protonhey Valoche you need an account on the soon-to-be-new-website
19:40:38captain_protonpm me what you want your username & pass to be
19:40:38ChestalValoche: what game settigns shoudl we use? ducati style 2 shots/rico/no flags?
19:40:39Valochethat's good, I'll ask for the tanks for their timezone
19:40:44Chestaland NO JUMPING of course :-)
19:40:49Valochepm????????????
19:40:49captain_protonheh Chestal
19:40:53captain_protonprivate message
19:41:01ValocheChestal: no jumping no flags (except teams')
19:41:12captain_protonjust a default CTF world?
19:41:14abstractlo chestal & proton
19:41:25captain_protonoh i'll need to get the observer patch
19:41:28abstractwas gonna ask if you fellas needed help with the bzflag
19:41:30abstractsite
19:41:31ChestalI like my patched random CTF world
19:41:41captain_protonChestal: are we going to have only 2 teams?
19:42:00Chestalcaptain_proton: yes, I'd like to have only 2 teams in one battle
19:42:08Chestalenough action with 3:3
19:42:25Chestalabstract: the bzflag web page?
19:42:30abstractya
19:42:44abstracti have skills in sql, php, and graphics : )
19:42:51abstracti can do some cool stuff
19:42:58Chestalabstract; it sure could need a more stylish overhaul. It's not bad as is, but I guess a fancier one would attract more people
19:43:02captain_protonsounds good Chestal
19:43:21Chestalabstract: we'd have to talk with Tim about that of course
19:43:49Chestaldidn't Tim suggest to use CVS for the web site :-) ?
19:44:36Chestalso, do we use a default CTF world or m ypatched version or whatever?
19:44:49Valochebtw, I thought about you Chestal, I added support for the shots' colors in the database
19:44:54Ruudihi
19:44:57Valochehaven't posted the patch yet
19:44:59Valochehi Ruudi
19:45:09Ruudiwaz up?
19:45:12Chestalhi Ruudi
19:45:28ChestalValoche: ehm, didn't quite get that with the shot's colors and the database
19:45:49ValocheI can change the shots' colors on radar in the config file
19:45:56Valocheyou can put all of them white if you want
19:46:02Chestalah!
19:46:12captain_protonhi Ruudi
19:46:13ChestalI want them to be white and dots
19:46:28captain_protonabstract: i've been working on a new site
19:46:33Valochewell *I* wrote the patch for the lines, so grrrrrrr ;-)
19:46:50ChestalI am running bzflag at low-res (800x600), the smaller the dots, the better for me
19:47:03ChestalI also like the old method of drawing tanks on radar better
19:47:09captain_protonyeah...
19:47:14ValocheI totally agree with your last comment
19:47:17captain_protoni can't say i'm a fan of the new flag-radar either
19:47:28Valocheme neither
19:47:38ChestalI guess the new rendering of buildings on te radar is nice for jumping worlds, I don't know
19:47:49captain_protonChestal: yes the new building drawing is very nice
19:47:50ValocheI find it disappointing
19:47:54captain_protonjust not the flags
19:48:12Ruudii like that jump fade stuff too
19:48:16Chestalthe flags are different, too? I didn't notice that. I only tried the new radar once
19:48:17captain_protoni think it would work better if the flags were faded between white & grey just like buildings are faded
19:48:28captain_protonChestal: the higher a flag, the bigger its drawn
19:48:29Valochecap: there's a patch for that
19:48:30captain_protonits gross
19:48:40Ruudimy falgs allways white blanks as i
19:48:44Ruudi'm using mesa
19:48:44Chestalcaptain_proton: ah, ok. No wonder I didn't notice on my non-jumping server
19:49:10Ruudithere should be a two only team server
19:49:14Chestalobviously some people like the old radar better, some liek the new, some like certainaspects of it
19:49:26Chestalwoudl be nice to have it all configurable, at least manually via editing the config file
19:49:47ChestalRuudi: duacti CTF has two teams
19:50:02Ruudii mean non ctf non jump and flags
19:50:02abstractwas afk for a few
19:50:08Ruudior maybe even jump
19:50:08abstractany responce to my offer?
19:50:18Ruudireal action server with two teams only
19:50:37Ruuditoo bad i can't put up my own server
19:50:46Chestalabstract: I said a more shiny web page would be nice. It's Tim Riker's page, so we better ask him
19:51:19captain_protonabstract: i actually started working on a new site a few weeks ago
19:51:20Ruudiso bz web should be a nice and tight
19:51:24captain_protonerr...a week ago
19:51:34Ruudiclean and clear like the game
19:51:41captain_protonChestal: already talked with him and got the go-ahead :)
19:52:03abstractok
19:52:13captain_protoni wouldn't mind some help though
19:52:15abstracti'll do a concept design this weekend
19:52:24abstracthave alot of cool ideas in mind
19:52:24captain_protonabstract: http://bzflag.org/new
19:52:24ChestalI'd like to have bzflag page to be usable thoug. Not too much multimedia/flash stuff for me
19:52:29abstractfor ladder and what not
19:52:34captain_protoni use no multimedia
19:52:52abstractna
19:52:57abstractno multimedia or flash
19:53:09abstracthtml 4 strict for multi browsers
19:53:40Chestalwe need to get information for new players easily accessible
19:53:48Chestaldownloads / general info / faq
19:54:07Ruudii think menu and text boxes need some colour too just a light ones
19:54:08captain_protonabstract: right now i'm working on some of the backend admin stuff
19:54:37Ruudihttp://www.valgamaa.ee/ my everydays work...
19:54:50Ruudior not so every :) 20 min per week
19:54:57Chestaland no frames please, they suck
19:55:16captain_protonChestal: don't complain until you've at least taken the time to *look* at that url
19:55:23Chestalcaptain_proton: ok,ok :-)
19:55:34Chestaljust making suggestions
19:55:47abstractya, i dislike frames myself
19:55:53Ruudithat web don't look like there ever be a frame :)
19:56:12Ruudior ever will be
19:56:55captain_protonValoche: password changing works, so http://bzflag.org/new/admin/
19:59:05abstractbrb
19:59:29captain_protonbreaks out a coke and some cookies
19:59:35Ruudiok i'll play cu...
19:59:39captain_protonahh, lunch
19:59:57Chestalanybody has any idea about that annoying ctf-bug that a team flag sometimes returns to the base when carrying tank is shot?
20:00:14captain_protonserver rewrite? :)
20:10:46Chestalbtw., who is holarse, the interiew guy?
20:11:06captain_protonholarse seems to be a german linux gaming e-zine :)
20:11:54Chestalhmm, netsplit, valoche's gone
20:12:01captain_protonbyebye Valoche!!
20:12:15ChestalI was talking to him, hope he'll be back
20:12:31Chestalhttp://bzflag.org/new/ doesn't look that bad btw. :-)
20:12:38captain_protonthanks
20:12:45captain_protonmost of the work has been backend
20:12:55ChestalI think i'd also like a little colour for the menu onthe left side
20:13:01captain_protonweb interface for admins to edit the news :)
20:13:33captain_protonand for those of us with higher access, a web interface to edit the users
20:13:58captain_protonsoon i'm going to do one of the biggest parts of the backend - publishing 'intermediate' builds
20:15:43Chestalneeds tea
20:16:32Ruudihuh should get some tea too ...gaming makes hands damn cold
20:17:20captain_protonwb Valoche
20:17:27Chestalhe's bathing and eating
20:17:33Chestalpossibly at the same time :-)
20:17:36captain_protonuhm ok
20:17:40Chestalah no, he said 'then'
20:18:05Ruudiand can't play my bass to warm em up...neighbours came up yesterday :(
20:18:26Chestalwhen did you play?
20:20:43Ruudi3 at night
20:21:23Ruudii live on 4th and naighbour came up from ground flore
20:21:50Ruudiit was morning and he ruined my all day with that...
20:21:51Chestalmaybe you could find a more suitable time of day :-)
20:22:11Ruudinight time is best for playing...should get my own house i guess :)
20:28:51Valochehm... Chestal: BIPPPPPPPPPP
20:29:06captain_protonimplements delete user
20:29:38Valocheis clean and THEN goes eating
20:29:58ChestalI'm here
20:50:40BZValochegod, wtf happened?
20:50:51Chestalhmm, nothing happened
20:51:24Valocheokay, where were we?
20:51:40Chestalyou askedabut beginnign of tournament, when your problems started
20:51:45Valocheok
20:52:02ChestalI said noearlier than Feb 02 (Saturday), I guess it might be better to wait at least one week longer
20:52:08Valocheso, we are ok with the teams, the scores, so I guess we can start advertising when the web page is up
20:52:16Chestalthe last tourney was ona Saturday IIRC?
20:52:36Valocheyes
20:53:42Chestalwhat will you put on the web page?
20:53:59Valochea registration summary, and a registration form
20:54:24Valochesummary := list of teams
20:55:04Chestalok, I will talk to some players I know for early opinions and some input
20:56:16not_cheateris back (gone 02:12:44)
20:56:19Valochegreat; I'll keep you informed
20:58:10Chestalok, let's get this started. I hope all remaining details will settle themselves
20:58:26ValocheI feel confident ;)
20:58:43Valochefor now, I'm gonna play BZ a little, cya later
22:20:21rdelsallehi
22:31:50Chestalhi rdelsalle
22:32:17rdelsallehi
22:32:29rdelsallewho are game developer?
23:09:39abstract /msg roogna lo?
23:11:15captain_protonwanders back in
23:11:55captain_protonwhats up abstract?
23:12:13abstractnot much, just taking a short from a meeting
23:12:21captain_protonahh fun
23:12:44abstractbbl
23:23:16rumour has it chestal is using a client-side patch to detect too high tank or shot speed, because that is a cheat which is hard to detect manually
23:23:16MrApathyCreamibot, what is chestal?
23:23:52mrapathycream: i haven't a clue
23:23:52MrApathyCreamibot, what is captain proton?
23:25:36captain_protonheyhey MrApathyCream
23:29:14captain_protonyou here MrApathyCream?
23:37:13MrApathyCreamyup...
23:37:17MrApathyCream<lag>
23:37:19MrApathyCream:)
23:38:02captain_protonwe ought to write that world object :)
23:38:22...but mrapathycream is 100% lame...
23:38:22MrApathyCreamibot, MrApathyCream is <reply>A big fat guy, old enough to know not to stay up all nite playing, but does anyway.
23:38:38MrApathyCream: I forgot mrapathycream
23:38:38MrApathyCreamibot, forget MrApathyCream
23:38:48captain_protonha
23:39:02OK, MrApathyCream.
23:39:02MrApathyCreamibot, MrApathyCream is <reply> A big fat guy, old enough to know not to stay up all nite playing, but does anyway.
23:39:25MrApathyCreamok, anyway... about the object.
23:39:27captain_protonMrApathyCream?
23:39:32A big fat guy, old enough to know not to stay up all nite playing, but does anyway.
23:39:32captain_protonibot, MrApathyCream?
23:39:49MrApathyCreamcya later, be back later.
23:39:55captain_protonyou're going?
23:46:14vogon_jeltzis back (gone 09:16:26)
23:47:39captain_protonwb
23:47:46vogon_jeltzhi :)
23:48:18missing in action
23:48:18vogon_jeltzibot, vogon_jeltz
23:48:26vogon_jeltz: I forgot vogon_jeltz
23:48:26vogon_jeltzibot, forget vogon_jeltz
23:48:34captain_proton: excuse me?
23:48:34captain_protonibot, captain_proton
23:48:37captain_protonha
23:48:48vogon_jeltz:P
23:50:07bugger all, i dunno, captain_proton
23:50:07captain_protonibot, meq?
23:50:14captain_protongood they haven't set it again
23:56:53captain_protonheyhey timmy!
23:57:07captain_protonbets BZFlag will ignore him just for that =/
23:57:11vogon_jeltzhehe
23:59:29BZFlag was last seen on #blob 21 hours, 3 minutes and 18 seconds ago, saying: I think so, yes. [Tue Jan 15 02:56:11 2002]
23:59:29captain_protonibot, seen BZFlag

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