| 02:10:43 | captain_proton | is away: foood |
| 02:34:08 | | niihau, bryjen |
| 02:34:08 | bryjen | hello |
| 02:34:27 | bryjen | Ches, ayt? |
| 02:59:17 | captain_proton | is back (gone 00:48:34) |
| 03:00:01 | EddieNull | wb proton |
| 03:00:07 | captain_proton | tanks |
| 03:05:49 | captain_proton | does a happy dance |
| 03:07:29 | EddieNull | what's the ocasion? :) |
| 03:07:40 | captain_proton | fixed all my segfaults |
| 03:08:14 | EddieNull | ah, I'd be dancing as well if I could do that :) |
| 03:08:27 | captain_proton | bzedit 2.0 is going to be *awesome* |
| 03:08:51 | EddieNull | how far along is it? |
| 03:09:08 | captain_proton | well, i've redone the linux interface to match the new windows port |
| 03:09:21 | captain_proton | and so far it renders the ground and the walls |
| 03:09:52 | captain_proton | i still have most of the hooks to do, but the backend is much better than it used to be |
| 03:09:57 | EddieNull | is it in C or C++? I'm trying to ponder how hard it would be to port to MacOS X :) |
| 03:10:03 | captain_proton | C++ |
| 03:10:20 | captain_proton | we're trying to make it easy to port |
| 03:10:37 | captain_proton | all you'll have to do is reimplement the interface and make it work with our Document class |
| 03:11:51 | EddieNull | make the interface code easy, please :) I write drivers, I'm not a UI hacker per say. I looked at the bzedit 1 sources and got lost with all the gtk calls, etc :) |
| 03:12:18 | EddieNull | ...and since I don't have a linux machine to test it on, I couldn't even compare what the screen is doing to the code to try and copy it that way |
| 03:13:05 | captain_proton | interface code isn't easy |
| 03:13:21 | captain_proton | but i plan on including documentation on how the interface should look and act |
| 03:13:52 | EddieNull | i know :) I'm trying to write an app now, the backend stuff kicks ass, the UI is butt-ass ugly :) |
| 03:14:04 | EddieNull | docs would be great :) |
| 03:14:10 | captain_proton | i thought aqua looked good? |
| 03:15:39 | EddieNull | the UI widgets look good, putting them all together so they look good as a whole is different :) |
| 03:16:10 | captain_proton | can you do a toolbar with custom icons? |
| 03:17:42 | EddieNull | well, see, on X there are 2 different APIs to choose from, Carbon and Cocoa. Carbon, which is what I use, is the basic UI toolbox like anything else. Cocoa on the other had is sorta like a VisualBASIC but for ObjC. It allows you to easily make toolbars |
| 03:18:18 | EddieNull | toolbars can be done is carbon, but you have to hand code them, much like how you have to on linux, where as cocoa all it takes is mabye 5 lines of code to set it up and the OS does the rest for you |
| 03:18:58 | captain_proton | just tell me if doing a toolbar with these extra icons is possible: http://www.artemisgames.com/Code/BZ/Edit/Img/BZEdit32ScreenShot.gif |
| 03:19:20 | captain_proton | (thats the windows toolbar, don't have a screenshot of the linux one) |
| 03:19:55 | EddieNull | ah, yea, that can be done |
| 03:20:01 | captain_proton | :) |
| 03:20:31 | EddieNull | i actually think i'm gonna catch a bzflag game real quick, bbiab :) |
| 03:44:38 | nrath | hi |
| 03:56:20 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 02:18:12) |
| 03:56:26 | captain_proton | wb |
| 03:56:39 | vogon_jeltz | thx |
| 04:05:35 | EddieNull | whee, that was fun |
| 04:27:04 | captain_proton | wb |
| 04:27:30 | vogon_jeltz | thx :/ |
| 04:29:44 | captain_proton | bzedit is starting to work again |
| 04:32:59 | captain_proton | its cool |
| 04:37:28 | vogon_jeltz | cool |
| 04:37:47 | captain_proton | working on rotation using the mouse |
| 04:37:52 | captain_proton | already have zoom on mouse wheel :) |
| 04:38:20 | EddieNull | cool :) |
| 04:56:01 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: around? |
| 04:58:44 | captain_proton | yo vogon_jeltz! wake up! |
| 04:59:15 | captain_proton | i have a package for you to install |
| 05:04:10 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, I'm here |
| 05:04:12 | vogon_jeltz | w0t? |
| 05:07:29 | vogon_jeltz | soh! |
| 05:07:31 | vogon_jeltz | doh, even |
| 05:07:38 | vogon_jeltz | has to get gtkglarea again |
| 05:08:40 | captain_proton | lol |
| 05:09:49 | vogon_jeltz | is having a brain fart right now, so he needs a question answered |
| 05:09:55 | captain_proton | shoot |
| 05:09:58 | vogon_jeltz | how many circles are there in Dantean hell? |
| 05:10:09 | captain_proton | 7 |
| 05:10:12 | vogon_jeltz | thx |
| 05:10:31 | captain_proton | why? |
| 05:10:35 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 05:10:45 | vogon_jeltz | CTCP VERSION reply |
| 05:11:20 | captain_proton | lol |
| 05:12:08 | captain_proton | hmmm i need to come up with a version reply |
| 05:13:27 | captain_proton | maybe i'll just run the same client as you |
| 05:13:30 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 05:14:27 | captain_proton | erm...what does your reply look like? i tried /msg and it didn't work right |
| 05:14:30 | captain_proton | are you using /nctcl |
| 05:14:33 | captain_proton | ack |
| 05:14:36 | vogon_jeltz | yup |
| 05:14:36 | captain_proton | /nctcp |
| 05:14:36 | captain_proton | ? |
| 05:14:49 | vogon_jeltz | no, wait, I'm using /notice |
| 05:14:55 | captain_proton | try it |
| 05:15:03 | captain_proton | argh |
| 05:15:03 | captain_proton | type |
| 05:15:06 | vogon_jeltz | there |
| 05:15:07 | captain_proton | typo even |
| 05:15:30 | captain_proton | sweet |
| 05:16:15 | vogon_jeltz | check mine now |
| 05:16:28 | captain_proton | lol |
| 05:16:43 | vogon_jeltz | bzedit l00ks l33t |
| 05:16:51 | vogon_jeltz | does it work for creating worlds yet? :) |
| 05:16:52 | captain_proton | ok: try the mouse wheel |
| 05:16:57 | captain_proton | no, not yet |
| 05:17:01 | captain_proton | welcome JeffM2501 |
| 05:17:04 | JeffM2501 | hey |
| 05:17:15 | vogon_jeltz | nice |
| 05:17:20 | vogon_jeltz | great job, guys :) |
| 05:17:38 | vogon_jeltz | might jump back into the BZFlag mapping fray now that the client's workable |
| 05:17:39 | JeffM2501 | well it still needs work on windows |
| 05:17:53 | captain_proton | ok vogon_jeltz - like the mouse wheel? |
| 05:17:58 | captain_proton | now try right click+drag :) |
| 05:18:04 | captain_proton | great idea btw JeffM2501 |
| 05:18:25 | JeffM2501 | shift drag pans |
| 05:18:28 | vogon_jeltz | that is nice |
| 05:18:37 | captain_proton | yeah i still have yet to do that |
| 05:18:44 | JeffM2501 | ctl drag chages the plane of the drag |
| 05:18:54 | captain_proton | right now i'm trying to figure out a box rendering bug |
| 05:19:06 | JeffM2501 | and shift+ctl drag zooms in case you don't have a wheel |
| 05:19:30 | JeffM2501 | I'm just about to move the box rendering code into my new model system |
| 05:19:34 | JeffM2501 | what's the bug? |
| 05:19:50 | captain_proton | it appears one of the sides isn't coplanar :P |
| 05:20:34 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 05:20:52 | JeffM2501 | well I'm making it all a set of triangle strips anyway |
| 05:20:59 | captain_proton | drools |
| 05:21:19 | JeffM2501 | I now have a model mananger that allows sorting |
| 05:21:30 | captain_proton | sorting by texture or sorting by distance? |
| 05:21:32 | JeffM2501 | right not just by texture and a "priority" flag |
| 05:21:55 | JeffM2501 | but now there is a single place that the sorts are done |
| 05:22:09 | JeffM2501 | so doing it later will be easy |
| 05:22:24 | captain_proton | great |
| 05:22:34 | vogon_jeltz | "Written out of utter boredom." |
| 05:22:35 | vogon_jeltz | nice |
| 05:22:44 | captain_proton | well, its true |
| 05:23:01 | captain_proton | does a happy dance |
| 05:23:04 | captain_proton | fixed the bug |
| 05:23:09 | JeffM2501 | good |
| 05:24:15 | vogon_jeltz | gets his new video card tomorrow |
| 05:24:39 | JeffM2501 | has anyone tested the maps the windows one makes? |
| 05:25:26 | vogon_jeltz | believes he has found a pseudo-bug in the editor |
| 05:25:37 | JeffM2501 | and that would be? |
| 05:25:39 | vogon_jeltz | if you look at the floor from a shallow enough angle, you clip through it |
| 05:26:02 | captain_proton | thats just because right now the engine isn't great |
| 05:26:05 | vogon_jeltz | ahh |
| 05:26:06 | vogon_jeltz | :) |
| 05:26:16 | captain_proton | once things are sorted by distance, i can change the depth function |
| 05:26:30 | vogon_jeltz | well, I'd just like to say that right now, it looks better than most professionally-made level editors :) |
| 05:26:32 | captain_proton | then i can move the near clip plane closer |
| 05:27:02 | vogon_jeltz | f'rinstance, GtkRadiant looks godawful on my box |
| 05:27:30 | JeffM2501 | just wait till you see it with lighting normals |
| 05:27:32 | captain_proton | gtk radiant? |
| 05:27:41 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: the editor for Quake3 levels |
| 05:28:17 | JeffM2501 | yeah radiant wasn't made to be usable :) |
| 05:28:20 | vogon_jeltz | Gdk-ERROR **: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) |
| 05:28:20 | vogon_jeltz | serial 16472 error_code 2 request_code 128 minor_code 13 |
| 05:28:24 | vogon_jeltz | JeffM2501: hehe |
| 05:28:28 | JeffM2501 | unreal ed is fiarly usable |
| 05:28:40 | vogon_jeltz | JeffM2501: but written in VB, so it doesn't run on Linux |
| 05:28:43 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: what was that? |
| 05:28:47 | JeffM2501 | true |
| 05:28:52 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: when I click on the close box, it does that |
| 05:29:00 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: (and Quit doesn't work yet ;) |
| 05:29:24 | captain_proton | yeah i know |
| 05:29:44 | captain_proton | erm...the ground is wound the wrong direction :) |
| 05:29:45 | vogon_jeltz | JeffM2501: I went through about an hour of manually unpacking packed-up UnrealEd files in a WINEd copy of WinZip |
| 05:30:07 | JeffM2501 | ewww |
| 05:30:27 | vogon_jeltz | JeffM2501: and UnrealEd managed to render its status bar before it got into an infinite loop |
| 05:30:28 | captain_proton | oh btw JeffM2501: the ground looks much better if the texture scale is set to 1 |
| 05:30:29 | JeffM2501 | how well does windows stuff run in WINE? |
| 05:30:44 | vogon_jeltz | JeffM2501: not well; I'm not sure about WineX (it's broken with my video drivers) |
| 05:30:59 | captain_proton | it depends on what you try to do |
| 05:31:01 | JeffM2501 | captain_proton: you mean not repeated? |
| 05:31:05 | vogon_jeltz | JeffM2501: well, let me rephrase that: anything that requires Direct* doesn't work well |
| 05:31:11 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 05:31:18 | captain_proton | thats the way its done in the game |
| 05:31:40 | JeffM2501 | cap; realy, i think it looks like crap like that, it's all pixelated |
| 05:31:47 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 05:31:57 | captain_proton | it is? even with the mipmaps? |
| 05:31:58 | JeffM2501 | but that's why I made it a var |
| 05:32:40 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: it's chunky, but it's not like a picture that you zoomed in all the way |
| 05:32:42 | captain_proton | perhaps the texture should be homogenized more and repeated but not quite as much as you did |
| 05:32:48 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: the mipmaps had some effect |
| 05:32:54 | JeffM2501 | yeah it it fairly course in game |
| 05:33:16 | JeffM2501 | needs detail textures :) |
| 05:33:19 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: ever thought of making it tileable and then randomly rotating it? |
| 05:33:42 | captain_proton | nope :) |
| 05:33:42 | captain_proton | i' |
| 05:33:50 | captain_proton | i'm going to try homogenizing it up a bit and see if that helps |
| 05:33:54 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 05:33:55 | vogon_jeltz | OK |
| 05:35:26 | captain_proton | fark |
| 05:35:55 | captain_proton | well that didn't work |
| 05:38:33 | captain_proton | ack...i need to change the wind function |
| 05:42:33 | JeffM2501 | is there plans to support world of difrent sizes? |
| 05:43:01 | captain_proton | eventually but i don't think we need to worry about that at the moment |
| 05:43:05 | captain_proton | should be fairly easy to drop in |
| 05:43:40 | JeffM2501 | well since I'm redoing the wall and floor geo code, might as well make the sizes and tex cords based on vars |
| 05:46:41 | captain_proton | away need juice |
| 05:57:24 | captain_proton | oops |
| 05:57:26 | captain_proton | back |
| 06:01:08 | captain_proton | how long until that new rendering code? |
| 06:02:45 | JeffM2501 | proablby tomrow AM |
| 06:02:50 | JeffM2501 | working on it now |
| 06:03:11 | JeffM2501 | have ground and walls done |
| 06:03:54 | captain_proton | ok |
| 06:04:07 | captain_proton | once you get that to me i'll get you everything you need for the new windows code |
| 06:04:09 | JeffM2501 | manualy fuguring out trinagle strips make brain hurt :) |
| 06:04:17 | captain_proton | including the stripped out MainWindow class interface |
| 06:04:22 | captain_proton | ooh, yuck |
| 06:04:24 | JeffM2501 | well you can use what you have now |
| 06:04:32 | JeffM2501 | this just affects the object classes |
| 06:04:35 | JeffM2501 | not window or interface |
| 06:04:43 | captain_proton | yeah, still |
| 06:04:50 | captain_proton | it'd be nice to just give you a zip of everything |
| 06:04:54 | JeffM2501 | but I'll shoot it over to you tomrow AM |
| 06:05:14 | captain_proton | ok... |
| 06:05:22 | captain_proton | i probably won't be awake tomorrow AM, but that'll work |
| 06:19:48 | captain_proton | are you using Element::name or Object::getListName() ? |
| 06:20:26 | JeffM2501 | GetListName |
| 06:20:26 | captain_proton | JeffM2501? |
| 06:20:32 | captain_proton | ok thanks |
| 06:20:58 | JeffM2501 | it looks like with what I'm doing here we won't need the elemnt class when I'm done |
| 06:23:59 | captain_proton | ok |
| 06:28:10 | captain_proton | does a happy dance |
| 06:29:39 | JeffM2501 | get somethin working? |
| 06:30:21 | captain_proton | its adding items to the list window |
| 06:30:33 | JeffM2501 | cooo |
| 06:39:26 | captain_proton | god...a friend of mine is explaining why emacs is good |
| 06:42:28 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: any program that includes Tetris must be good |
| 06:42:40 | captain_proton | bah |
| 06:45:02 | captain_proton | hey JeffM2501: when someone has a type selected in the list window, does it only render objects of those type? |
| 06:47:07 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 06:47:19 | captain_proton | perhaps we should do that? |
| 06:47:19 | JeffM2501 | it just only lists ones of those types |
| 06:47:24 | JeffM2501 | maybe |
| 06:47:44 | JeffM2501 | or make the others transparent |
| 06:47:55 | captain_proton | and un-pickable |
| 06:47:56 | JeffM2501 | I just use it to shorten the list |
| 06:48:04 | captain_proton | ok i'll mirror that for now |
| 06:48:26 | JeffM2501 | cus if you pick something that's not in the current list, it makes the list show that type |
| 06:56:36 | captain_proton | whats the polygon offset stuff? |
| 06:59:48 | JeffM2501 | so that on low rez zbuffers co planer stuff dosn't get all gittery |
| 07:00:15 | JeffM2501 | it's just a litle trick |
| 07:00:50 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 07:01:26 | captain_proton | though that won't matter once things are sorted by distance |
| 07:03:06 | JeffM2501 | well if you are stull using a z buffer it does |
| 07:03:20 | JeffM2501 | distance does help |
| 07:03:29 | JeffM2501 | but not on concave things |
| 07:03:48 | JeffM2501 | this adds a little fudge to the z buffer |
| 07:04:17 | JeffM2501 | to ensure that the things you want to be seen are, even if there is something close to them in the z buffer |
| 07:06:15 | captain_proton | well what i'm thinking is you sort stuff by distance, then set the depth function to GL_LEQUAL |
| 07:07:08 | JeffM2501 | well that would work in a perfect world but the z buffer resolutin in hardware isn't allways liniar |
| 07:07:17 | captain_proton | yeah thats true... :P |
| 07:07:19 | JeffM2501 | so for stuff that's close, you can get artifacts |
| 07:07:51 | JeffM2501 | it's moslty aperant wiht stuff that's far away from the POV |
| 07:08:01 | JeffM2501 | where the z buffer res realy drops off |
| 07:08:10 | JeffM2501 | expecialy on 16 bit z buffers |
| 07:08:42 | captain_proton | yeah i had that issue when i first wrote this |
| 07:08:51 | captain_proton | thats why the near clip plane is at 3.0 |
| 07:09:09 | captain_proton | to give the far objects a bit more resolution |
| 07:09:13 | JeffM2501 | that's one way to take care of it |
| 07:09:29 | JeffM2501 | hmmm |
| 07:09:47 | JeffM2501 | I find it odd that boxes are +sx * -sx |
| 07:09:58 | JeffM2501 | but only 0 to sz high |
| 07:10:18 | captain_proton | yeah...just the way they did it |
| 07:10:24 | JeffM2501 | that means for a cube your z is 2x your x and y |
| 07:10:28 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 07:10:37 | JeffM2501 | just makin sure |
| 07:17:41 | captain_proton | let me get this straight: |
| 07:17:43 | captain_proton | button 1: pick |
| 07:17:48 | captain_proton | button 2: pick & center |
| 07:17:50 | captain_proton | button 3: roam |
| 07:18:50 | captain_proton | right? |
| 07:24:18 | JeffM2501 | I don't think I hooked up the middle button |
| 07:24:22 | JeffM2501 | just the wheel |
| 07:24:26 | JeffM2501 | but that sounds good |
| 07:24:48 | JeffM2501 | I don't have a pick and center button, but I can add it |
| 07:25:03 | captain_proton | ok - thats what i have now |
| 07:25:11 | captain_proton | and wheel is hooked to zoom |
| 07:26:46 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 07:26:59 | JeffM2501 | most windows apps don't use the middle button |
| 07:27:04 | JeffM2501 | may not even have it |
| 07:28:24 | captain_proton | i bet it does |
| 07:28:58 | JeffM2501 | ohh the API has it |
| 07:29:12 | JeffM2501 | but I meant that not all users have a mouse that does :) |
| 07:29:25 | JeffM2501 | and not all verisons of windows support it |
| 07:29:29 | JeffM2501 | 95 dosn't |
| 07:29:33 | JeffM2501 | but it's crap anyway |
| 07:30:05 | captain_proton | nobody runs 95 anymore |
| 07:30:18 | captain_proton | at least, nobody should |
| 07:30:27 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 07:30:31 | JeffM2501 | so no biggie |
| 07:30:48 | captain_proton | and as long as you have the menu option (in View), its ok |
| 07:31:17 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 07:40:21 | captain_proton | does YET ANOTHER happy dance |
| 07:40:34 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 07:40:43 | vogon_jeltz | glues cappy's feet to the floor |
| 07:41:09 | captain_proton | :( |
| 07:41:18 | vogon_jeltz | what's the happy dance for? |
| 07:41:53 | captain_proton | it loads worlds |
| 07:41:54 | captain_proton | sortof |
| 07:42:20 | captain_proton | seems to exit on some of them...but i have no idea why |
| 07:44:14 | JeffM2501 | hmmm don't have a math lib in the code |
| 07:44:20 | JeffM2501 | i'm gonna add sone |
| 07:44:36 | captain_proton | math lib? what all do you need? |
| 07:44:52 | JeffM2501 | cross and dot procuct |
| 07:45:09 | JeffM2501 | stdandard vector math |
| 07:46:25 | JeffM2501 | there done :) |
| 07:57:59 | captain_proton | tries to do another happy dance but his feet are glued to the floor |
| 07:58:14 | vogon_jeltz | super-unglues captain_proton's feet |
| 07:58:26 | captain_proton | :) |
| 08:44:44 | Bakemono|Coding | lol |
| 08:44:49 | Bakemono|Coding | I just hopped in here too |
| 08:44:51 | captain_proton | hey guys |
| 08:44:57 | sgs | me too |
| 08:45:04 | sgs | captain proton |
| 08:45:06 | sgs | hi :) |
| 08:45:06 | Bakemono|Coding | is tim still alive? |
| 08:45:15 | captain_proton | alive but not here |
| 08:45:17 | Bakemono|Coding | ok |
| 08:45:32 | Bakemono|Coding | next time you see him, tell him to shoot ibot with a large gun |
| 08:45:39 | Bakemono|Coding | at l |
| 08:45:45 | captain_proton | why is that? |
| 08:45:55 | Bakemono|Coding | he's in #tuxboxproject |
| 08:46:08 | Bakemono|Coding | and the dood with ops in there doesn't want to ban him |
| 08:46:08 | Bakemono|Coding | : / |
| 08:46:10 | Bakemono|Coding | it* |
| 08:46:21 | captain_proton | but you don't want ibot there? |
| 08:46:29 | | up yours |
| 08:46:29 | Bakemono|Coding | what's up? |
| 08:46:33 | Bakemono|Coding | : / |
| 08:46:43 | captain_proton | err yeah |
| 08:46:55 | Bakemono|Coding | if he said cool stuff I wouldn't mind... |
| 08:46:57 | | captain_proton: I forgot up |
| 08:46:57 | captain_proton | ibot, forget up |
| 08:46:57 | Bakemono|Coding | but... |
| 08:47:00 | captain_proton | whats up? |
| 08:47:04 | captain_proton | there :) |
| 08:47:07 | Bakemono|Coding | :) |
| 08:47:09 | Bakemono|Coding | that works |
| 08:48:23 | Bakemono|Coding | up is the direction all humans, at one point in their lives, inevitably attempt traveling |
| 08:48:27 | | i think up is the direction all humans, at one point in their lives, inevitably attempt traveling |
| 08:48:27 | Bakemono|Coding | what's up? |
| 08:48:40 | Bakemono|Coding | hmm |
| 08:48:56 | | Bakemono|Coding: I forgot up |
| 08:48:56 | Bakemono|Coding | forget up |
| 08:49:37 | Bakemono|Coding | oh |
| 08:49:43 | Bakemono|Coding | forgot to say goodbye ;) |
| 10:20:43 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: still here? |
| 10:21:21 | captain_proton | i have a new package for you |
| 10:28:25 | captain_proton | WAKE UP |
| 10:29:14 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:37:11) |
| 10:29:24 | vogon_jeltz | IS UP!!!!1 |
| 10:31:49 | captain_proton | hey |
| 10:32:02 | captain_proton | check this out :) |
| 10:33:06 | captain_proton | crappy-ass transfer rate |
| 10:33:14 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 10:33:40 | vogon_jeltz | it's a l33t mp3 |
| 10:33:53 | vogon_jeltz | from the people who did the All Your Base song |
| 10:34:16 | captain_proton | not as l33t as bzedit is right now |
| 10:34:27 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 10:36:24 | captain_proton | like? |
| 10:36:38 | vogon_jeltz | nice, my man |
| 10:36:55 | vogon_jeltz | very l33t |
| 10:37:22 | captain_proton | its pretty much fully functional |
| 10:37:30 | captain_proton | at least as functional as you need to make a world |
| 10:37:32 | vogon_jeltz | o/~ We are the space robots / We are here to protect you / We are here to protect you / From the terrible secret of space o/~ |
| 10:37:37 | vogon_jeltz | cool |
| 10:37:39 | vogon_jeltz | I'll get right on it ;) |
| 10:43:13 | captain_proton | entire toolbar functions now :) |
| 10:43:29 | vogon_jeltz | o/~ We are the space robots / We are here to protect you / Pak. Chooie. Unf. o/~ |
| 10:44:33 | captain_proton | lol |
| 10:45:41 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 10:45:54 | vogon_jeltz | you heard the All Your Base song? |
| 10:46:23 | vogon_jeltz | o/~ All your base, your base, base, base / All your base... are belong to us o/~ |
| 10:47:19 | captain_proton | yea...didn't like it |
| 10:47:23 | vogon_jeltz | I'd like some up/down twiddlers on the object properties, tho :) |
| 10:47:32 | captain_proton | yeah i was just thinking that |
| 10:47:59 | captain_proton | even still that wouldn't take effect until you hit apply |
| 10:51:31 | captain_proton | because /me is lazy and that would make undo/redo a complete pain |
| 10:51:42 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 10:54:55 | captain_proton | w00! the only thing required in the data dir are the tga texture files! |
| 10:55:29 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... b00g |
| 10:55:38 | vogon_jeltz | bases disappear when you move them from the origin |
| 10:55:57 | vogon_jeltz | oh, n/m, they just end up *way* off the map |
| 10:57:20 | captain_proton | i'm trying to track down that bug |
| 10:57:38 | captain_proton | for some reason base positions are 2x the norm |
| 10:57:49 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 10:57:59 | vogon_jeltz | and base rotations rotate them about the origin |
| 10:58:07 | captain_proton | mrrrh |
| 10:58:47 | captain_proton | think if found it! |
| 10:59:15 | vogon_jeltz | cool |
| 10:59:31 | captain_proton | yep |
| 10:59:48 | captain_proton | makes distcheck |
| 10:59:56 | captain_proton | (thats one redeeming factor of autoconf) |
| 11:00:41 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... the elements in the elements list aren't removed |
| 11:00:49 | vogon_jeltz | (when you delete their corresponding object) |
| 11:01:04 | captain_proton | they're not?!? |
| 11:01:27 | vogon_jeltz | nope |
| 11:01:36 | vogon_jeltz | but they are removed from the worldfile |
| 11:01:47 | captain_proton | ok fixing now |
| 11:02:40 | captain_proton | makes distcheck again |
| 11:03:58 | captain_proton | going to accept? |
| 11:04:27 | vogon_jeltz | I only accepted the larger of the two, if that's OK :) |
| 11:04:41 | captain_proton | well i cancelled the first |
| 11:04:59 | vogon_jeltz | ahh |
| 11:05:20 | captain_proton | this one should actually be somewhat smaller - fewer data files |
| 11:08:58 | vogon_jeltz | should give proton some cookies one of these days |
| 11:09:45 | captain_proton | mmmm cookies |
| 11:17:27 | vogon_jeltz | another bug: changing an object's name in the inspector has no effect :) |
| 11:21:28 | captain_proton | one thing that hasn't been done yet: reading in object names |
| 11:22:49 | captain_proton | so don't name everything and then save & load |
| 11:23:11 | vogon_jeltz | ahh |
| 11:23:29 | captain_proton | wait until we implement that to name everything |
| 11:23:43 | captain_proton | there's a new package awaiting you |
| 11:23:46 | captain_proton | that changes name |
| 11:23:47 | captain_proton | s |
| 11:23:50 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 11:25:31 | captain_proton | argh |
| 11:26:02 | vogon_jeltz | isn't getting it yet |
| 11:26:08 | vogon_jeltz | I'm having fun with the current version |
| 11:26:40 | vogon_jeltz | when you go to bed, send me the latest version :) |
| 11:26:45 | captain_proton | fine |
| 11:26:50 | vogon_jeltz | thx |
| 11:41:18 | captain_proton | accept this, biatch! |
| 11:42:10 | vogon_jeltz | can I pan yet? |
| 11:42:42 | captain_proton | naah i haven't really made any changes since i last offered you this :) |
| 11:42:43 | vogon_jeltz | http://www.somethingawful.com/spam/icq/spacerobot/index.htm |
| 11:42:45 | captain_proton | try middle clicking to slect |
| 11:42:49 | captain_proton | select |
| 11:42:57 | captain_proton | that will readjust the view to center on that object |
| 11:43:12 | vogon_jeltz | (that's the thing that inspired the lyrics to that MP3 I sent) |
| 11:43:21 | vogon_jeltz | ahh, cool |
| 11:47:36 | captain_proton | that song is disgusting |
| 11:47:38 | captain_proton | :) |
| 11:47:50 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 11:48:09 | vogon_jeltz | read that page |
| 11:48:14 | vogon_jeltz | it puts it all in context |
| 11:48:18 | captain_proton | i did |
| 11:51:08 | captain_proton | humans have gone down the stairs... |
| 11:51:54 | captain_proton | is away: sleeping |
| 11:52:04 | vogon_jeltz | another bug |
| 11:52:08 | captain_proton | do tell |
| 11:52:24 | vogon_jeltz | after I added in a link, I couldn't select any of my previously-placed objects |
| 11:52:36 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 11:54:24 | captain_proton | i don't know why that is |
| 11:54:44 | captain_proton | i sleep now |
| 11:55:29 | vogon_jeltz | k |
| 11:55:29 | vogon_jeltz | nn |
| 15:28:06 | vogon_jeltz | is away: sl33p |
| 21:41:26 | captain_pistachio | argh |
| 21:48:04 | captain_proton | jeffM been in today? |
| 22:41:39 | captain_proton | come back vj...new package... |
| 23:46:54 | captain_proton | lol... http://www.musicforhackers.com |
| 23:56:51 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz!!! |
| 23:57:01 | vogon_jeltz | hi!!! |
| 23:57:15 | vogon_jeltz | has to set up his new video card, so don't bug him with BZEdit yet |
| 23:57:31 | captain_proton | well *fine* |
| 23:57:37 | captain_proton | its got spin buttons :) |
| 23:57:57 | vogon_jeltz | ooh, l33t |
| 23:59:04 | vogon_jeltz | 01:08.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 (rev b2) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) |
| 23:59:14 | captain_proton | go |
| 23:59:22 | captain_proton | time to install the nvidia drivers |
| 23:59:30 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 23:59:38 | vogon_jeltz | is downloading the kernel mod source as we speak |
