| 00:00:26 | comrad | hm |
| 00:00:47 | comrad | i did a make linux; make. but when comes the part to install the files into my dirs? |
| 00:01:52 | abs | ./configure; make; make install |
| 00:01:58 | captain_proton | abs: no |
| 00:02:04 | captain_proton | bzflag doesn't use autoconf/automake |
| 00:02:09 | abs | oh, ok |
| 00:02:16 | abs | only play'd it on osx |
| 00:02:27 | captain_proton | comrad: for now you have to copy the files manually (copy the data, then copy the stuff in bin) |
| 00:02:33 | comrad | ok |
| 00:03:41 | comrad | hmpf |
| 00:03:45 | comrad | i copied the binaries |
| 00:03:51 | comrad | but its still 1.7e2 |
| 00:04:00 | captain_proton | you need the data too - there are some new images/sounds |
| 00:04:04 | comrad | jo |
| 00:04:05 | captain_proton | ?? |
| 00:04:06 | comrad | thats copied |
| 00:04:19 | captain_proton | sure you copied the new binaries over your old ones |
| 00:04:25 | comrad | ah |
| 00:04:34 | comrad | there were some binaries in /usr/X11R6/bin/ |
| 00:04:41 | comrad | jo |
| 00:04:43 | comrad | i have 1.7e4 |
| 00:04:50 | comrad | must test it now :) |
| 00:04:51 | comrad | thanks ;) |
| 00:05:13 | captain_proton | no problem |
| 00:10:31 | comrad | does it run under beos? |
| 00:39:15 | captain_proton | not sure - perhaps |
| 00:45:15 | captain_proton | downloads sources to various terminal emulators |
| 00:54:50 | comrad | i just read, you need a portable gui for the server? |
| 00:55:25 | captain_proton | i don't think the server needs a GUI at all... |
| 00:55:32 | captain_proton | where did you read that? |
| 00:55:58 | comrad | http://bzflag.sourceforge.net/developer/features.html |
| 00:58:24 | captain_proton | oh hmmm |
| 01:00:02 | comrad | does irix has java? |
| 01:00:08 | captain_proton | probably |
| 01:00:18 | comrad | windows,linux and solaris does have |
| 01:01:44 | captain_proton | some of the things on that developer page are outdated |
| 01:01:49 | comrad | hm |
| 01:01:53 | captain_proton | like flags on buildings - that was done in e4 |
| 01:39:04 | captain_proton | wb comrad |
| 01:39:14 | comrad | thx |
| 01:40:38 | Chestal | hi there |
| 01:40:56 | captain_proton | hey Chestal |
| 01:47:47 | Chestal | has been to the cinema earlier this day |
| 01:48:03 | captain_proton | what did you see? |
| 01:48:04 | Chestal | ponders if he is going to drink another beer |
| 01:48:11 | Chestal | captain_protom: guess :-) |
| 01:48:16 | captain_proton | lotr? |
| 01:48:19 | Chestal | yep |
| 01:48:26 | captain_proton | good movie :) |
| 01:48:38 | Chestal | yeah, I liked it |
| 01:49:01 | Chestal | I was surprised at how much I remembered from the book, I noticed all little things that were changed |
| 01:49:14 | captain_proton | lol |
| 01:49:26 | captain_proton | i didn't remember much - then again i read it when i was about 7 |
| 01:50:02 | Chestal | I guess I will watch at last one more time in English (watched German dubbed version) |
| 01:52:05 | Chestal | yawns |
| 01:52:14 | Chestal | seems liek I am tired. Good n8 |
| 01:52:25 | captain_proton | fires a nerf dart a Chestal and says goodnight |
| 01:52:43 | Chestal | heh, what's a nerf dart? |
| 01:52:56 | captain_proton | omg...you don't know what nerf is? |
| 01:53:01 | Chestal | no |
| 01:53:15 | captain_proton | these guns that shoot foam darts - geek toys :) |
| 01:53:30 | Chestal | ibot: x en de nerf dart :-) |
| 01:53:48 | Chestal | oh |
| 01:53:51 | Chestal | ibot1: x en de nerf dart :-) |
| 01:53:52 | | Chestal: nerfpfeil:-) |
| 01:54:00 | | Chestal: what? |
| 01:54:00 | Chestal | ibot1: vielen Dank |
| 01:54:01 | captain_proton | lol |
| 01:54:40 | Chestal | heh, NERF is an acronym for National Energy Research Fund |
| 01:57:20 | captain_proton | its also a brand of toy |
| 01:58:23 | Chestal | I'm still not quite sure what it is exactly. But I think I can deduce that this attack of yours is of a non-deadly nature, so I can safely go to sleep now :-) cu |
| 01:59:09 | captain_proton | goodnight |
| 02:30:12 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 13:30:29) |
| 02:30:27 | captain_proton | hey vogon_jeltz |
| 02:30:33 | |ks| | nerf is a line of toys that use light foam as ammunition... guns, crossbows, etc... generally safe for use inside, so pretty much non-deadly =) |
| 02:30:46 | captain_proton | |ks|: too late |
| 02:30:54 | vogon_jeltz | hi, cappy |
| 02:31:02 | vogon_jeltz | comes to you today from his new chair |
| 02:31:08 | captain_proton | happy? |
| 02:31:17 | vogon_jeltz | hell, yeah :) |
| 02:32:26 | vogon_jeltz | it's a l33t chair, too |
| 02:33:26 | captain_proton | still no certificate of l33t/\/3ss |
| 02:33:52 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 02:33:59 | vogon_jeltz | this chair has one :) |
| 02:34:40 | captain_proton | it does?!? |
| 02:34:48 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, I awarded it one |
| 02:34:54 | captain_proton | ohhh |
| 02:37:00 | vogon_jeltz | it's an "executive" chair |
| 02:37:19 | vogon_jeltz | it's got a full-height backrest, molded arms, and a good 3" of padding |
| 02:37:49 | captain_proton | ha |
| 02:42:08 | vogon_jeltz | http://www.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/sku.asp?PageType=1&Sku=437284&bcFlag=True&bcSCatId=2&bcSCatName=Furniture&bcCatId=32&bcCatName=Chairs+%26+Chairmats&bcDeptId=1533&bcDeptName=Office+Chairs&bcClassId=140918&bcClassName=+Executive+Chairs |
| 02:43:44 | captain_proton | looks nice... |
| 02:44:16 | vogon_jeltz | :) |
| 02:46:21 | captain_proton | cracks up as someone trying to explain nickname identification accidentally broadcasts his password to the channel |
| 03:02:25 | |ks| | oops |
| 03:04:05 | captain_proton | fires off a nerf dart in vogon_jeltz's direction |
| 03:07:53 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: going to pull that dart off your forehead or just leave it there? ;) |
| 03:27:28 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 03:27:29 | vogon_jeltz | was playing Q3 |
| 03:27:56 | vogon_jeltz | from my l33t0 new chair |
| 03:40:21 | captain_proton | ha |
| 03:50:14 | captain_proton | html tables galore... |
| 04:01:49 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: you here? |
| 04:06:21 | vogon_jeltz | yeh |
| 04:07:45 | captain_proton | care to give me comments on a web page layout? |
| 04:07:51 | vogon_jeltz | meh |
| 04:08:52 | captain_proton | http://216.241.173.189/ |
| 04:09:13 | vogon_jeltz | it's pretty cool |
| 04:10:43 | captain_proton | been brushing up on my table-fu |
| 04:19:26 | captain_proton | ahahahaha |
| 04:19:29 | captain_proton | AO irc is down |
| 05:16:59 | captain_proton | is away: showering |
| 05:17:24 | vogon_jeltz | activates the webcam in proton's shower, and charges $20 a minute on his Web site |
| 05:17:34 | vogon_jeltz | ;) |
| 05:18:08 | comrad | uh |
| 05:18:20 | comrad | $20 bucks for getting his cloth on again? *g* |
| 05:18:24 | vogon_jeltz | hehehe |
| 05:18:43 | vogon_jeltz | ibot1, comrad++ |
| 05:19:19 | comrad | thats what the c in c++ is standing for? |
| 05:19:32 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 05:20:00 | vogon_jeltz | in C, to increment a variable requires a statement of the syntax <variable>++; |
| 05:20:11 | vogon_jeltz | so, the obvious step after C is C++ :) |
| 05:20:20 | comrad | hehe |
| 05:43:11 | captain_proton | is back (gone 00:26:12) |
| 05:43:21 | vogon_jeltz | hi, cappy |
| 05:43:46 | captain_proton | hi vogon_jeltz |
| 05:43:48 | captain_proton | make a fortune? |
| 05:43:54 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 05:44:17 | vogon_jeltz | got dozens of flames about cappy being "revolting" and "the last thing people would ever want to see online" |
| 05:44:18 | vogon_jeltz | ducks |
| 05:44:51 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: your web site doesn't get that much traffic ;) |
| 05:45:53 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 05:46:36 | captain_proton | in fact i'd be amazed if anybody other than you showed up in the 25 minutes i was gone *g* |
| 05:46:46 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 05:46:52 | vogon_jeltz | kicks cappy |
| 05:47:11 | captain_proton | teehee |
| 05:47:32 | vogon_jeltz | doesn't even have a Webcam ;) |
| 05:47:36 | captain_proton | i know |
| 05:47:51 | comrad | god bless you dont have one ;) |
| 05:48:19 | vogon_jeltz | yeah... |
| 05:48:27 | captain_proton | lies for a fellow kenpoist |
| 05:48:44 | captain_proton | i'll just take refuge in the fact that you could never match my table-fu |
| 05:49:08 | vogon_jeltz | haha |
| 05:50:06 | captain_proton | can gimp do .ico? |
| 05:50:26 | comrad | asks gimp |
| 05:51:00 | captain_proton | grrrr |
| 05:51:02 | captain_proton | it doesn't |
| 05:51:34 | comrad | thats what he told me |
| 05:55:41 | captain_proton | looks at some IRC stats and sees that he never says anything between 6 am and 12 pm |
| 05:56:39 | vogon_jeltz | wow, interesting |
| 06:00:03 | captain_proton | ~/ ... tears of love, tears of fear ... /~ |
| 06:00:11 | captain_proton | name the song? |
| 06:00:14 | captain_proton | :D |
| 07:36:06 | comrad | hei |
| 07:36:11 | comrad | how can i make screenshots?? |
| 07:36:20 | comrad | (writing a report about bzflag) |
| 07:36:37 | captain_proton | uhhh |
| 07:36:44 | captain_proton | i used to know :P |
| 07:36:49 | vogon_jeltz | very carefully |
| 07:36:51 | comrad | i tried to ALT+TAB |
| 07:37:00 | comrad | but that froze my whole X-session |
| 07:37:34 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: do you remember the keystroke/command combination? |
| 07:37:45 | vogon_jeltz | uhm, not really |
| 07:38:08 | vogon_jeltz | just uses a screen capture proggie with a time delay |
| 07:38:13 | comrad | not documented ? |
| 07:38:26 | vogon_jeltz | there is no documentation :) |
| 07:38:32 | captain_proton | sorry comrad |
| 07:38:37 | comrad | the sources are documentation enough ;) |
| 07:38:40 | comrad | np. |
| 07:38:43 | captain_proton | you'll have to wait until tim riker comes back here |
| 07:38:48 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: that doesn't work |
| 07:38:51 | comrad | ok |
| 07:38:51 | vogon_jeltz | argh! |
| 07:38:58 | vogon_jeltz | kicks the crap out of libxml2 |
| 07:39:46 | captain_proton | hahah |
| 07:39:50 | captain_proton | what are you doing? |
| 07:39:57 | vogon_jeltz | trying to get GtkRadiant to run |
| 07:40:33 | captain_proton | what is that? |
| 07:40:41 | vogon_jeltz | it's a level editor for Quake3 |
| 07:41:58 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... does GCC 3.0 install cleanly on RH 7.1? |
| 07:42:01 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 07:42:05 | captain_proton | never tried |
| 07:42:13 | captain_proton | gcc 3.x is a pain anyhow |
| 07:42:17 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 07:42:40 | captain_proton | many programs that use C++ aren't ansi compliant |
| 07:43:02 | captain_proton | i installed gcc 3.x on this laptop that we did from scratch |
| 07:43:12 | captain_proton | and we had to hack at a bunch of programs to get them to compile |
| 07:43:51 | captain_proton | FINALLY! |
| 07:43:56 | captain_proton | i found a terminal emulator with clean code |
| 07:48:27 | captain_proton | sweet - forkpty(...) is a godsend |
| 07:48:52 | comrad | if anyone is interested |
| 07:49:10 | comrad | there is a short summary report (in german) on : http://holarse.wue.de/index.php?content=bzflag |
| 07:49:33 | vogon_jeltz | waits for GtkRadiant to recompile |
| 07:50:28 | vogon_jeltz | lucky I have this chair |
| 07:50:37 | captain_proton | haha |
| 07:50:41 | captain_proton | visits babelfish |
| 07:51:44 | comrad | heh |
| 07:53:20 | captain_proton | well it got most of the words |
| 07:53:28 | captain_proton | so what exactly *is* holarse? |
| 08:07:25 | comrad | we are a linuxgaming website |
| 08:08:18 | captain_proton | i see |
| 08:08:38 | comrad | quite popular in germany |
| 08:12:14 | captain_proton | i couldn't quite grasp your opinion of bzflag through the translation - care to tell me? |
| 08:12:16 | captain_proton | :) |
| 08:13:00 | vogon_jeltz | <comrad> it sucks... that's why I've been hanging out here for the past week... |
| 08:13:00 | vogon_jeltz | ;) |
| 08:13:53 | comrad | well, im addicted :) |
| 08:14:14 | comrad | its a lot of fun to play and there are gametypes for every kind of player. |
| 08:15:35 | comrad | tried to stay objective ;) |
| 08:15:48 | captain_proton | haha vogon_jeltz |
| 08:16:00 | comrad | but i often felt into kind of europhia ;) |
| 08:16:25 | comrad | whats ur part in coding captain_proton? |
| 08:17:03 | captain_proton | i write random things |
| 08:17:22 | captain_proton | in the latest release i was primarily to blame for rotated and elevated bases in CTF worlds |
| 08:17:26 | comrad | /dev/random *g* |
| 08:17:32 | captain_proton | right now I'm redesigning the interface |
| 08:17:32 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 08:17:43 | comrad | nice |
| 08:17:47 | vogon_jeltz | was the guy who hacked together flags-on-buildings and custom CTF worlds |
| 08:18:00 | comrad | cool |
| 08:18:32 | comrad | i wished i could know more cpp |
| 08:18:47 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: i think i'm starting to figure out this terminal thing!! |
| 08:19:06 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 08:20:12 | comrad | do you guys work on other projects too? |
| 08:20:28 | captain_proton | sortof |
| 08:20:34 | captain_proton | i almost always have a pet project or two |
| 08:20:34 | vogon_jeltz | has an MMORPG that's (barely) in the works |
| 08:20:47 | comrad | i heard about MMORPG |
| 08:21:03 | comrad | captain_proton: what are you working on actually, if i may ask? |
| 08:21:11 | captain_proton | i'm currently working on a background manager/program launcher for myself |
| 08:21:48 | captain_proton | i'm working towards being able to embed terminals into the background |
| 08:22:20 | captain_proton | its kinda hard to explain |
| 08:22:28 | captain_proton | let me find a screenshot |
| 08:24:52 | comrad | heh |
| 08:25:16 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/screenshot.png <-- watch out, its big |
| 08:25:22 | comrad | i have adsl |
| 08:25:47 | captain_proton | the program loads the background and does that whole bar on the left side |
| 08:25:57 | captain_proton | icons light up on mouseover |
| 08:26:08 | comrad | oh, i thought it was gnome-panel |
| 08:26:17 | captain_proton | no, i just stole all the gnome icons |
| 08:26:21 | comrad | heh |
| 08:26:34 | captain_proton | i wrote this to get rid of the panel (gnome session stuff is in general too inefficient) |
| 08:26:47 | comrad | jepp |
| 08:27:28 | captain_proton | i could use a better bz icon though :P |
| 08:27:47 | comrad | captain_proton, vogon_jeltz are you interested in being shortly interviewed? |
| 08:28:04 | captain_proton | depends on your questions :) |
| 08:28:09 | comrad | heh |
| 08:28:31 | vogon_jeltz | comrad: heh... I'm trying to get something else working right now, but if it could be conducted via e-mail, I'll try to get around to it :) |
| 08:28:45 | comrad | just some questions about how you got to bzflag and why you are developing games and why opensource and that stuff |
| 08:29:01 | comrad | it of course would be via email |
| 08:29:08 | vogon_jeltz | ah, OK :) |
| 08:29:11 | captain_proton | ok |
| 08:29:14 | comrad | nice |
| 08:29:42 | comrad | i guess i need ur email adresses ;) |
| 08:29:48 | vogon_jeltz | vogon@icculus.org |
| 08:29:50 | captain_proton | jupiter@babylonia.flatirons.org |
| 08:30:42 | comrad | thanks |
| 08:30:55 | vogon_jeltz | np |
| 08:31:35 | vogon_jeltz | points out that nerf keeps logs of this channel that are posted online :/ |
| 08:31:45 | vogon_jeltz | it might've been a good idea to Spam-armor our addies |
| 08:31:48 | captain_proton | nerf?!?! |
| 08:31:57 | vogon_jeltz | s/nerf/ibot1/ |
| 08:32:02 | captain_proton | rofl |
| 08:32:04 | vogon_jeltz | is used to #loki |
| 08:32:09 | vogon_jeltz | their bot is called nerf |
| 08:32:12 | captain_proton | nerfs vogon_jeltz again |
| 08:32:21 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 08:33:03 | captain_proton | you have a dart stuck to your forehead again |
| 08:33:13 | vogon_jeltz | takes off the dart and whips it back at cappy |
| 08:34:57 | captain_proton | watches the dart hit the wall beside his head |
| 08:35:03 | captain_proton | nice aim ;) |
| 08:35:15 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 08:35:26 | vogon_jeltz | man, I can't throw worth crap if it took that long to hit |
| 08:35:45 | captain_proton | hey vogon_jeltz: about that web site I showed you earlier - i'm thinking of adding more random table things, but i can't think where to put them |
| 08:35:50 | captain_proton | any suggestions? |
| 08:36:02 | vogon_jeltz | not sure |
| 08:36:50 | captain_proton | i might split the purple bar along the navigation sidebar into 2 colors |
| 08:37:59 | captain_proton | i'm gonna try that... |
| 08:44:10 | captain_proton | looks good? |
| 08:47:52 | comrad | emails are out |
| 09:02:30 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: check the #wine topic :) |
| 09:02:55 | vogon_jeltz | uhm, it's empty |
| 09:03:25 | vogon_jeltz | winehq, OTOH, is freaking hilarious :) |
| 09:04:59 | captain_proton | yeah thats the one i meant |
| 09:05:45 | captain_proton | the 'santa claus is coming to town' adaptation |
| 09:10:03 | captain_proton | wait - i'm not familiar with the 'OTOH' abbrev |
| 09:11:26 | vogon_jeltz | on the other hand |
| 09:11:37 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 09:13:18 | captain_proton | :( :( i got a C in calc |
| 09:13:26 | captain_proton | i guess thats average though |
| 09:13:31 | captain_proton | i should have actually put in work :P |
| 09:13:49 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 09:14:23 | captain_proton | i guess it will be reasonably balanced out by my algorithms grade |
| 09:19:54 | captain_proton | comrad: finished |
| 09:21:23 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: can you look at my page again and tell me if the new addition is good? |
| 09:21:44 | vogon_jeltz | sure... URL? |
| 09:21:59 | captain_proton | http://216.241.173.189/ |
| 09:22:09 | comrad | thx |
| 09:22:36 | vogon_jeltz | I like it |
| 09:22:38 | captain_proton | tell me the URL of it when it goes up - i'd like to see vogon_jeltz's comments :) |
| 09:23:28 | captain_proton | still can't think of any places I could add table paraphenalia? |
| 09:25:25 | captain_proton | lol...i just found a hilarious personal web page |
| 09:25:36 | captain_proton | For a while now, I've been just bopping around the Internet, causing problems, smashing egos, and looking at pr0n. Well, hrm, that about sums it up for me. Heh, but seriously though, I really like the whole "online experience" simply for the fact that you're known by what you know and how you act. Yes, I act like an asshole, but hey, it comes with the territory. |
| 09:27:21 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 10:38:39 | captain_proton | shows off his table-fu again |
| 10:38:48 | captain_proton | now off to sleep |
| 10:38:55 | captain_proton | is away: sleeping |
| 11:30:28 | vogon_jeltz | is away: sl33p |
| 14:30:28 | Treibholz | hi |
| 14:31:32 | Treibholz | i just downloaded and compiled bzflag is it normal that theres only bzfrelay in my bin directory?? |
| 14:32:43 | comrad | hi |
| 14:32:52 | comrad | hast du make linux; make gemacht? |
| 14:32:57 | Treibholz | jepp |
| 14:33:04 | Treibholz | wies bei holarse stand.. |
| 14:33:12 | comrad | hm |
| 14:33:21 | Treibholz | nur jetzt soll ichn bissle mehr wie bzfrelay kopieren laut deiner anleitung |
| 14:33:21 | comrad | die dateien sollten eigentlich alle da sein |
| 14:33:29 | comrad | japp |
| 14:33:42 | Treibholz | hat am ende keine fehlermeldung gegeben beim compilieren... war aber recht kurz |
| 14:33:50 | comrad | hm |
| 14:33:54 | comrad | komisch |
| 14:33:58 | comrad | welche sourcen hast du denn? |
| 14:34:21 | Treibholz | 1.7.d.9 |
| 14:35:48 | Treibholz | naja nehm ich halt mal das rpm |
| 14:35:55 | comrad | d9?? |
| 14:36:01 | comrad | nimm mal e4 |
| 14:36:03 | comrad | das is das neuste |
| 14:36:59 | Treibholz | ok versuch ich erst das |
| 15:39:54 | Chestal | hi |
| 21:02:21 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 09:31:49) |
| 21:26:43 | vogon_jeltz | and I'm done with the interview |
| 21:55:45 | abs | lo fellas |
| 23:23:14 | Tharpo | hi. are the /* ingame commands documented somewhere? |
