| 00:14:28 | HEMI | argh |
| 00:14:40 | captain_proton | ? |
| 00:14:41 | HEMI | I don't know what it is, but bzflag just locks my machine solid 95% of the time. |
| 00:14:49 | captain_proton | bizzare |
| 00:14:50 | HEMI | I got it to work ONCE last night... |
| 00:14:58 | HEMI | And for a couple of seconds just now under windows... |
| 00:15:03 | captain_proton | what vcard? |
| 00:15:08 | HEMI | v3/3000 |
| 00:15:19 | captain_proton | sure you have the right drivers? |
| 00:15:31 | HEMI | Every other game (except Quake II) works just fine. |
| 00:15:48 | HEMI | And I've got about the only voodoo drivers that exist for XP right now. |
| 00:15:57 | HEMI | And the DRI stuff works fine for most other things under FreeBSD. |
| 00:15:59 | captain_proton | hmmm |
| 00:16:04 | captain_proton | XP is a piece of crap |
| 00:16:11 | HEMI | Yeah, I'm beginning to notice. |
| 00:16:14 | captain_proton | at least in terms of current hardware compatability |
| 00:16:18 | HEMI | I might revert to 2k or even 98SE. |
| 00:16:24 | captain_proton | go 2k |
| 00:16:39 | HEMI | I had 98se before...No problems with it. We use 2k at work, though. |
| 00:16:56 | captain_proton | 2k is a lot faster/more stable than 98se |
| 00:17:29 | HEMI | Yeah, I know...Although I never really had any stability issues under 98se. THe only time 9x gets unstable is when you uninstall stuff. |
| 00:18:26 | HEMI | It's odd...Under FreeBSD it'll get to the start page, I can still move my mouse around (remains the typical X black arrow), I can still connect to my machine from other boxes...But stick a fork in bzflag and my display, cause it's DONE... |
| 00:18:56 | HEMI | Same thing for XP. I pretty much lose total control of the display...But it takes a few seconds under XP, and the sounds that are playing keep looping. |
| 00:19:47 | HEMI | When the parts for my dually show up I'm going to try it under FreeBSD again, but with an ATI card...I don't know how the DRI stuff works for ATI cards under FreeBSD, but I'll give it a try. |
| 00:20:04 | captain_proton | nvidia cards rock |
| 00:20:08 | captain_proton | but i don't think they support BSD |
| 00:20:15 | HEMI | Unless you use FreeBSD (or anything besides Linux or Windows). |
| 00:20:28 | HEMI | Once they come out of fascist driver mode I'll be more than happy to switch. |
| 00:20:45 | captain_proton | heh |
| 00:21:30 | HEMI | Plus I like using the voodoo, cause hey, I managed to document how I got DRI working under FreeBSD, which allows other people to do it...Before the documentation sucked. haha |
| 00:22:35 | HEMI | It took me TWO WEEKS about fifty X reinstalls before I got it working. haha |
| 00:23:23 | captain_proton | sounds like me with the nvidia stuff 2 years ago |
| 00:23:57 | HEMI | Had troubles with it? |
| 00:24:59 | captain_proton | at that point the nvidia drivers were most unstable |
| 00:25:22 | HEMI | Heh...Sort of like anything with DRI support under X. |
| 00:25:41 | HEMI | I'm hoping to really do some work on it...I really don't know jack about video drivers, but I want to learn. haha |
| 00:28:24 | captain_proton | nowadays the nvidia drivers work great |
| 00:28:50 | HEMI | Apparently so. Too bad they don't bother to support a very wide range of OSes. |
| 00:29:09 | captain_proton | i'm just happy they're nice enough to support linux as well as they do |
| 00:29:53 | HEMI | I'm not... |
| 00:30:39 | HEMI | I gave up on linux a while ago...I see more and more linux people doing the same thing. Sure, there's a lot more windows people picking up linux, but the number of linux people moving to *BSD is increasing, too. |
| 00:31:09 | HEMI | It's sort of a "natural" curve, I think. Once you get tired of the "toy" aspect of linux and just want a machine that works, you'll move to an OS with a better layout/setup in general. |
| 00:31:23 | captain_proton | heh...i've got my setup very customized |
| 00:31:37 | captain_proton | besides, linux does everything I want |
| 00:31:50 | captain_proton | I'll bet you can't interface with an SNES controller in BSD without some considerable work |
| 00:31:58 | HEMI | Exactly...FreeBSD does everything I want. |
| 00:32:15 | captain_proton | which would kill my current hack before it even got started |
| 00:32:16 | HEMI | No, honestly, I have no desire to, either. And yes, I'm pretty certain someone has got that working. |
| 00:32:36 | captain_proton | gets back to writing mario |
| 00:32:52 | HEMI | Sorry, I'm not trying to start a flame war. :/ |
| 00:33:28 | captain_proton | no problem - me either |
| 04:00:39 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 10:11:21) |
| 16:27:29 | | captain_proton: huh? |
| 16:27:29 | captain_proton | ibot, welcome |
| 16:28:22 | captain_proton | stupid bot |
| 16:28:30 | | ...but ibot is an infobot owned by Tangent with some assistance from BZFlag... |
| 16:28:30 | captain_proton | ibot, ibot is dumb |
| 16:29:08 | | ...but ibot is an infobot owned by Tangent with some assistance from BZFlag... |
| 16:29:08 | captain_proton | ibot, ibot is dumb |
| 16:29:11 | | i am an infobot owned by Tangent with some assistance from BZFlag |
| 16:29:11 | captain_proton | ibot, ibot? |
| 16:29:24 | | captain_proton: I forgot ibot |
| 16:29:24 | captain_proton | ibot, forget ibot |
| 16:29:26 | | OK, captain_proton. |
| 16:29:26 | captain_proton | ibot, ibot is dumb |
| 16:29:29 | | i am dumb |
| 16:29:29 | captain_proton | ibot, ibot? |
| 16:29:54 | | i heard i was dumb |
| 16:29:54 | captain_proton | ibot, who is ibot? |
| 21:39:00 | iLL_BZFlag | lo all |
| 21:39:24 | iLL_BZFlag | anyone notice that fire doesn't always follow teleporter routes? |
| 21:39:42 | iLL_BZFlag | anyone notice that fire doesn't always follow teleporter links I mean? |
| 21:51:55 | captain_proton | hi people |
| 21:53:45 | iLLf8d | lo |