| 01:09:07 | vogon_jeltz | is away: doing some Tribes2 mapping | 
| 01:38:32 | captain_proton | wonders how vogon_jeltz got op here | 
| 02:11:28 | vogon_jeltz | heh | 
| 02:11:32 | vogon_jeltz | BZ gave me ops | 
| 02:11:46 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 01:02:38) | 
| 02:12:21 |  | captain_proton is nothing but a bawdy puddle of contemptible pond scum. | 
| 02:12:21 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, insult captain_proton | 
| 02:12:29 |  | captain_proton is nothing but a rump-fed tongueful of off-color rat retch. | 
| 02:12:29 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, insult captain_proton | 
| 08:17:48 | captain_proton | anybody here? | 
| 08:18:39 | iLL_afk | yeah heh | 
| 08:18:47 | iLL_afk | what up p | 
| 08:19:10 | iLL_afk | hmm you think your decks field (not sure I got the name right) | 
| 08:19:26 | iLL_afk | the one thats multiple stacked decks in a box fomat | 
| 08:19:32 | iLL_afk | s/fomat/format | 
| 08:19:44 | iLL_afk | it seems to make my machine run all jerky | 
| 08:20:14 | iLL_afk | is there a chance that the 5+ shots and many people could be too much for my k6-2 350 and geforce2mx | 
| 08:20:20 | iLL_afk | perhaps a cpu math issue? | 
| 08:21:50 | iLL_afk | scratch that its definately a resource issue heh | 
| 08:22:08 | iLL_afk | guess it can't handle mp3's and bzflag very well heh | 
| 08:22:49 | captain_proton | ummm might be the cpu | 
| 08:23:12 | iLL_afk | yeah | 
| 08:23:25 | iLL_afk | I used to have a 500 in here | 
| 08:23:31 | iLL_afk | now only a 350 | 
| 08:23:37 | iLL_afk | cost me almost 50 fps | 
| 08:23:44 | captain_proton | ouch | 
| 08:23:51 | iLL_afk | it used to run pegged at 100 | 
| 08:23:57 | iLL_afk | now it runs in the 50's | 
| 08:23:58 | captain_proton | on an mx?? | 
| 08:24:07 | iLL_afk | and when I play mp3's its in the 20-25 heh | 
| 08:24:09 | iLL_afk | yeah | 
| 08:24:16 | captain_proton | what resolution? | 
| 08:24:28 | iLL_afk | 800x600 I think | 
| 08:24:30 | captain_proton | oh ok | 
| 08:24:41 | iLL_afk | seems that certain res don't work | 
| 08:24:44 | iLL_afk | they hang or lockup | 
| 08:24:50 | iLL_afk | so I stay wtih whats stable | 
| 08:25:12 | iLL_afk | those framerates are full graphics too | 
| 08:25:27 | captain_proton | well yeah its a gf2, even if it is an mx | 
| 08:26:10 | captain_proton | runs pegged at 120 at 1600x1200x32 :) | 
| 08:28:50 | iLL_afk | which card? | 
| 08:28:59 | iLL_afk | and which cpu? | 
| 08:29:16 | iLL_afk | I bet a duron or something would help | 
| 08:29:23 | iLL_afk | how is gaming at 1600? | 
| 08:29:24 | iLL_afk | hmm | 
| 08:29:28 | captain_proton | gf3 / p4 1.7 | 
| 08:29:35 | iLL_afk | oh that splains it heh | 
| 08:29:37 | captain_proton | gaming is wonderful at 1600 | 
| 08:30:22 | iLL_afk | you know how the ati cards are? | 
| 08:30:31 | iLL_afk | is looking for something he can use in his freebsd box also | 
| 08:30:46 | captain_proton | they're supposed to be good - i like nvidia for other reasons though | 
| 08:31:21 | captain_proton | specifically that the nvidia linux drivers are sweet compared to DRI | 
| 08:32:01 | vogon_jeltz | 3dfx 0wnz! | 
| 08:32:22 | captain_proton | would like to point out that 3dfx no longer exists | 
| 08:32:39 | vogon_jeltz | 3dfx 0wn3d! | 
| 08:32:53 | vogon_jeltz | 3dfx cards still 0wn, tho :) | 
| 08:33:08 | captain_proton | not to the point that nvidia cards 0wn | 
| 08:33:15 | vogon_jeltz | yeah... :/ | 
| 08:33:37 | vogon_jeltz | 3dfx video cards for the PCI interface 0wn when compared to similar nVidia cards! | 
| 08:33:57 | captain_proton | no PCI card 0wns | 
| 08:34:14 | vogon_jeltz | hwh | 
| 08:34:17 | vogon_jeltz | heh | 
| 08:34:27 | vogon_jeltz | try saying that when you don't have any AGP slots | 
| 08:34:39 | captain_proton | that will never happen, so.... | 
| 08:34:45 | vogon_jeltz | heh | 
| 08:34:47 | captain_proton | wants a motherboard with 2 agp slots | 
| 08:34:51 | vogon_jeltz | hehehe | 
| 08:34:57 | vogon_jeltz | *that* will never happen | 
| 08:35:06 | captain_proton | true | 
| 08:35:26 | captain_proton | right now my desired hardware list is: | 
| 08:35:30 | captain_proton | 1) TV tuner | 
| 08:36:02 | captain_proton | 2) mpeg-2 card with tv-out (linux supported) | 
| 08:36:07 | captain_proton | 3) wireless keyboard | 
| 08:36:52 | vogon_jeltz | mine is: 1) dual AthlonMP motherboard (or single P4 with DDR) 2) appropriate number of processors with max clockspeed 3) couple of 80GB 7200RPM HDs of some sort 4) GeForce3 Ti500... | 
| 08:37:01 | captain_proton | 4) another set of speakers (flat panel) to mount on my bed | 
| 08:37:25 | captain_proton | well my list is realistic :) | 
| 08:37:32 | vogon_jeltz | 5) projection glasses with TV-in :) | 
| 08:37:47 | captain_proton | have you seen the i-goggles? | 
| 08:37:51 | vogon_jeltz | (to be used in conjunction with the Ge3) | 
| 08:37:52 | vogon_jeltz | yes | 
| 08:38:00 | vogon_jeltz | I've also seen the Sony Glasstrons | 
| 08:38:05 | captain_proton | my gf3 does not have a tv-out | 
| 08:38:20 | vogon_jeltz | the Hercules Ge3Ti500 is supposed to, IIRC | 
| 08:38:52 | captain_proton | wow my roommate reeks of pot | 
| 08:39:03 | vogon_jeltz | a faster processor or a vidcard with a T&L chip would greatly improve my video performance | 
| 08:39:05 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: hehe | 
| 08:39:45 | captain_proton | he just offered me a case of bottled water and left with a pile of blankets... | 
| 08:39:59 | vogon_jeltz | wishes damn Intel would offer FCPGA -> FCPGA2 BIOS reflashes | 
| 08:40:18 | captain_proton | what is the difference? | 
| 08:40:42 | vogon_jeltz | one uses less electricity (which their jumperless boards could be reflashed to do) | 
| 08:40:56 | captain_proton | hmmm | 
| 08:40:59 | vogon_jeltz | the FCPGA2 drops core voltage to 3V, IIRC | 
| 08:41:13 | captain_proton | does not care about that, since he is not overclocking and his case is at room temp | 
| 08:41:18 | vogon_jeltz | heh | 
| 08:41:26 | vogon_jeltz | this is a Pentium 3 issue | 
| 08:41:31 | captain_proton | ahhh | 
| 08:41:58 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: your processor line will be changing from Socket 423 to Socket 475, IIRC | 
| 08:42:13 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: but Intel will offer a converter to snap onto your existing socket | 
| 08:42:18 | captain_proton | :) | 
| 08:42:42 | captain_proton | is planning to stock up on rdram when rambus finally goes out of business | 
| 08:42:46 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... or is it Socket 457? :/ | 
| 08:42:51 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: heh | 
| 08:42:54 | captain_proton | 475 i believe | 
| 08:43:03 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: it'll be worthless if VIA's new P4+DDR chipset catches on | 
| 08:43:04 | captain_proton | i can just see it - 2 gig at mucho low prices | 
| 08:43:39 | captain_proton | is already a little frustrated with his 256 | 
| 08:43:48 | vogon_jeltz | heh | 
| 08:44:27 | vogon_jeltz | *I*, the puny little P3 guy, have 256 (with the option to double it at dimes on the dollar of RDRAM) :) | 
| 08:44:53 | iLL_afk | shit | 
| 08:45:04 | iLL_afk | I missed the wishlist portion of this discussion | 
| 08:45:08 | iLL_afk | thats always the best part | 
| 08:45:16 | vogon_jeltz | hehe | 
| 08:45:20 | captain_proton | how much for a 256 ddr? | 
| 08:45:26 | vogon_jeltz | about 40 bucks | 
| 08:45:31 | vogon_jeltz | if that | 
| 08:45:38 | captain_proton | ~60 for a rimm | 
| 08:45:47 | iLL_afk | hmm | 
| 08:45:49 | vogon_jeltz | pricewatch? ;) | 
| 08:46:03 | iLL_afk | pats his p133 server and says its ok | 
| 08:46:05 | iLL_afk | sob sob | 
| 08:46:11 | vogon_jeltz | I've seen PC-133 (which is what my board takes) as low as $20 | 
| 08:46:14 | captain_proton | pricewatch as of a couple weeks ago - seems to have inflated a little | 
| 08:46:17 | vogon_jeltz | iLLf8d: heh... poor guy | 
| 08:46:27 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: you can show us your wishlist if you like | 
| 08:46:28 | iLLf8d | my workstation is a k6-2 350 | 
| 08:46:39 | iLLf8d | actually I gotta put the 500 back in | 
| 08:46:41 | vogon_jeltz | mmm... 3DNow! | 
| 08:46:52 | iLLf8d | my gf's was overheating | 
| 08:46:56 | iLLf8d | I thought it was the cpu | 
| 08:46:57 | vogon_jeltz | (gotta use the exclamation point) | 
| 08:47:04 | iLLf8d | but I put mine in hers and same shit | 
| 08:47:05 | iLLf8d | heh | 
| 08:47:11 | iLLf8d | =P | 
| 08:47:20 | iLLf8d | 3DYesterday! | 
| 08:47:22 | iLLf8d | heh | 
| 08:47:35 | vogon_jeltz | heh | 
| 08:47:48 | iLLf8d | my wishlist heh | 
| 08:47:49 | iLLf8d | uhm | 
| 08:47:50 | vogon_jeltz | got the Tribes2 Editor working ;) | 
| 08:47:52 | captain_proton | 3DMappedOnto2DButNotReallyNow! | 
| 08:49:02 | vogon_jeltz | Z-Buffer == 4DMappedOnto3DWithCheesyEffectsThenMappedOnto2DButNotReallyNow! | 
| 08:49:09 | iLLf8d | realistically would be 1.2 tbird system with a new 20x burner a 7200rpm+ 40 gig drive maxed out memory and another geforce2mx | 
| 08:49:30 | iLLf8d | or perhaps and ati raideon | 
| 08:49:36 | vogon_jeltz | needs a CD burner, too :/ | 
| 08:49:41 | iLLf8d | something that will play well in freebsd too | 
| 08:49:56 | vogon_jeltz | eww... FreeBSD... | 
| 08:50:10 | iLLf8d | heh whats wrong with fbsd? | 
| 08:50:27 | vogon_jeltz | I've no doubt that it's a good server OS, but I've heard awful things about configuration and ease-of-use | 
| 08:50:35 | iLLf8d | not only does the os rock but the mascott isn't a pussy | 
| 08:50:46 | iLLf8d | heh | 
| 08:50:47 | iLLf8d | =P | 
| 08:50:59 | iLLf8d | actually its a pleasure to run | 
| 08:51:01 | captain_proton | cares little for Tux | 
| 08:51:03 | iLLf8d | easier then linux | 
| 08:51:03 | vogon_jeltz | heh... you wouldn't be saying that if you'd seen a penguin rushing toward you at 200 MPH | 
| 08:51:15 | iLLf8d | only issues are dev support at times (AND THAT PART SUCKSHEH) | 
| 08:51:28 | captain_proton | fbsd is secure but old tech & old programs | 
| 08:51:48 | vogon_jeltz | there's a reason it's secure... it's not really pushing new frontiers | 
| 08:51:58 | iLLf8d | perhaps its very fast easy to configure and clean | 
| 08:52:08 | iLLf8d | I run both debian linux and freebsd | 
| 08:52:16 | iLLf8d | if I could i'd run freebsd solely | 
| 08:52:28 | vogon_jeltz | actually likes Tux :) | 
| 08:52:35 | vogon_jeltz | (no, not in that way) | 
| 08:52:50 | iLLf8d | need debian for my ancient ide 2x cdrw, at the time my promise ata100 (not an issue anymore) and my nvidia drivers | 
| 08:53:03 | iLLf8d | you just like fast penguins | 
| 08:53:21 | iLLf8d | heh | 
| 08:53:23 | iLLf8d | =P | 
| 08:53:36 | iLLf8d | I thought i was disconnected again it happens so often | 
| 08:53:39 | vogon_jeltz | haha | 
| 08:53:58 | iLLf8d | how up to date is the freebsd port? | 
| 08:54:07 | captain_proton | shudders as the image of vogon_jeltz violating a cartoonish penguin enters his mind | 
| 08:54:20 | iLLf8d | I hate it when proton does that | 
| 08:54:53 | iLLf8d | penguin violations just shouldn't be broadcast in channel | 
| 08:55:00 | vogon_jeltz | kicks captain_proton's ass to Afghanistan | 
| 08:55:01 | iLLf8d | thinks someone should update the rules | 
| 08:55:22 | vogon_jeltz | mwahahahaha | 
| 08:55:28 | iLLf8d | heh | 
| 08:55:35 | iLLf8d | you got a ban on him | 
| 08:55:39 | vogon_jeltz | yep | 
| 08:55:39 | iLLf8d | he won't bomerang | 
| 08:55:42 | iLLf8d | boomerang I mean | 
| 08:55:47 | vogon_jeltz | just a few minutes | 
| 08:55:49 | iLLf8d | heh | 
| 08:55:52 | iLLf8d | very nice he | 
| 08:55:52 | iLLf8d | h | 
| 08:56:14 | iLLf8d | hows the mud coming? | 
| 08:56:17 | iLLf8d | it operational? | 
| 08:56:20 | vogon_jeltz | no | 
| 08:56:23 | iLLf8d | ah | 
| 08:56:28 | iLLf8d | you got the name though =) | 
| 08:56:29 | iLLf8d | heh | 
| 08:56:32 | vogon_jeltz | I need to write up some client-side shiz to test the server :) | 
| 08:56:37 | iLLf8d | ducks waiting for the kick heh | 
| 08:56:46 | iLLf8d | write up? | 
| 08:56:49 | iLLf8d | not telnet? | 
| 08:56:53 | vogon_jeltz | heh... no | 
| 08:56:56 | iLLf8d | hmm | 
| 08:57:03 | vogon_jeltz | telnet sucks | 
| 08:57:09 | iLLf8d | thinks you may have been considering something similar to what he's doing | 
| 08:57:28 | vogon_jeltz | passwords sent in clear, no formatting beyond ANSI color... *shudder* | 
| 08:57:32 | iLLf8d | you ever seen a site called neopets? | 
| 08:57:36 | vogon_jeltz | no | 
| 08:57:58 | iLLf8d | its a stupidass gaming site with a billion users | 
| 08:58:02 | vogon_jeltz | haha | 
| 08:58:19 | vogon_jeltz | wonders when cappy's coming back | 
| 08:58:21 | iLLf8d | all mindless stuff like clicking a refresh button all day long | 
| 08:59:04 | iLLf8d | he said he's never coming back | 
| 08:59:08 | iLLf8d | jjk | 
| 09:00:48 | captain_proton | heh | 
| 09:01:04 | captain_proton | sorry about that - been hanging out with friends who think like that :P | 
| 09:01:10 | vogon_jeltz | heheh | 
| 09:01:14 | vogon_jeltz | it's OK | 
| 09:01:25 | vogon_jeltz | moves his mouse cursor over to the kick/ban button just to be safe | 
| 09:02:05 | captain_proton | goes to brush his teeth | 
| 09:02:08 | vogon_jeltz | bye | 
| 09:02:12 | iLLf8d | =P | 
| 09:02:20 | iLLf8d | muwahaha | 
| 09:03:34 | iLLf8d | hmm | 
| 09:03:46 | iLLf8d | Ping reply from iLLf8d : 0.00 second(s) | 
| 09:03:47 | iLLf8d | heh | 
| 09:03:53 | iLLf8d | broke the speed of light | 
| 09:06:05 | captain_proton | Ping reply from iLLf8d : 0.47 second(s) | 
| 09:07:18 | iLLf8d | I brb | 
| 09:07:25 | iLLf8d | gonna swap cpus | 
| 09:07:42 | captain_proton | goes to sleep | 
| 09:10:13 | vogon_jeltz | is away: 5133p | 
| 10:54:39 | lupinator | servus | 
| 15:28:08 | Chestal | hi mb | 
| 16:03:37 | I_KalamBa | nhi | 
| 16:04:51 |  | rumour has it I_KalamBa is good BZFlag player | 
| 16:04:51 | I_KalamBa | ibot who am i? | 
| 16:15:49 | I_KalamBa | ? | 
| 16:16:21 | Chestal | ? ? | 
| 16:17:09 | I_KalamBa | ? ? ? | 
| 16:18:54 | Chestal | please say a number from 1-9 | 
| 16:19:13 | Chestal | it't urgent! | 
| 16:20:44 | I_KalamBa | 6.4672 | 
| 16:26:01 | I_KalamBa | 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679821480865132823066470938446095505822317253594081284811174502841027019385211055596446229489549303819644288109756659334461284756482337867831652712019091456485669234603486104543266482133936072602491412737245870066063155881748815209209628292540917153643678925903600113305305488204665213841469519 | 
| 16:26:06 | I_KalamBa | (pi) | 
| 16:28:32 | I_KalamBa | 2pi = 6.283185307179586476925286766559 | 
| 16:31:50 | Chestal | too late | 
| 16:32:04 |  | i guess lupinator is the best bz player ever | 
| 16:32:04 | I_KalamBa | ibot who is lupinator | 
| 16:32:21 |  | lupinator is, like, the best bz player ever | 
| 16:32:21 | I_KalamBa | ibot who is lupinator | 
| 16:32:40 |  | rumour has it captain_proton is an UNKNOWN | 
| 16:32:40 | I_KalamBa | ibot who is captain_proton | 
| 16:32:53 | I_KalamBa | who am i? | 
| 16:32:58 |  | you are good BZFlag player | 
| 16:32:58 | I_KalamBa | ibot who am i? | 
| 16:46:12 |  | no idea, chestal | 
| 16:46:12 | Chestal | ibot: who am I? | 
| 16:57:21 |  | Chestal: excuse me? | 
| 16:57:21 | Chestal | ibot, go sit in a corner | 
| 18:03:14 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 08:52:57) | 
| 20:06:43 | captain_proton | is back | 
| 20:08:23 | captain_proton | anybody here? | 
| 20:08:30 | vogon_jeltz | no | 
| 20:10:41 | captain_proton | hi vogon_jeltz | 
| 20:10:56 | vogon_jeltz | hi | 
| 20:14:59 | captain_proton | whats up? | 
| 20:16:54 | vogon_jeltz | not much | 
| 20:17:22 | captain_proton | wonders where BZFlag is | 
| 20:25:00 | vogon_jeltz | wonders if captain_proton will ever get Tribes2 | 
| 20:25:15 | vogon_jeltz | so that we can start meq in that game, too ;) | 
| 20:25:49 | captain_proton | no i probably won't | 
| 20:25:54 | vogon_jeltz | damn :/ | 
| 20:26:01 | vogon_jeltz | it's a fun game | 
| 20:26:13 | captain_proton | goes to play a little bz | 
| 20:39:36 | vogon_jeltz | is away: afk | 
| 20:53:17 | captain_proton | returns | 
| 21:03:35 |  | captain_proton: I forgot captain_proton | 
| 21:03:35 | captain_proton | ibot, forget captain_proton | 
| 21:04:09 |  | i don't know, captain_proton | 
| 21:04:09 | captain_proton | ibot, Chestal? | 
| 21:04:12 |  | captain_proton: no idea | 
| 21:04:12 | captain_proton | ibot, chestal? | 
| 21:04:18 |  | vogon_jeltz is, like, a wonderful human being | 
| 21:04:18 | captain_proton | ibot, vogon_jeltz? | 
| 21:04:32 |  | captain_proton: I forgot i_kalamba | 
| 21:04:32 | captain_proton | ibot, forget I_KalamBa | 
| 21:04:56 |  | captain_proton: i haven't a clue | 
| 21:04:56 | captain_proton | ibot, I_KalamBa is someone who plays bz once in a while | 
| 21:05:05 | captain_proton | I_KalamBa is someone who plays bz once in a while | 
| 21:05:08 |  | bugger all, i dunno, captain_proton | 
| 21:05:08 | captain_proton | ibot, I_KalamBa is someone who plays bz once in a while | 
| 21:06:09 | captain_proton | damn | 
| 21:51:03 | captain_proton | hi mbarron | 
| 22:08:53 |  | BZFlag was last seen on #bzflag 1 days, 13 hours, 9 minutes and 43 seconds ago, saying: well, now I want to sleep. cya [Sat Oct 20 09:59:10 2001] | 
| 22:08:53 | captain_proton | ibot, seen BZFlag |