| 01:13:03 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, change 30 USD to CAD |
| 01:13:07 | | vogon_jeltz: 46.9055 (United States Dollar (USD)) makes 1 (Dollar (CAD)) |
| 01:23:13 | Huk | hi |
| 01:23:35 | captain_proton | hi |
| 01:23:42 | Huk | what is Gerbil's page |
| 01:23:51 | Huk | other than that fucking gerbil in a tank picture one |
| 01:24:05 | captain_proton | he seems to have replaced it with that |
| 01:24:15 | Huk | doh |
| 01:24:16 | Huk | retard |
| 01:25:42 | Huk | what day is it today |
| 01:47:14 | captain_proton | you there vogon_jeltz? |
| 01:50:14 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 01:50:19 | captain_proton | hi |
| 01:50:23 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 01:50:37 | captain_proton | i've gotten a lot of ideas for the HUD |
| 01:50:42 | vogon_jeltz | ok |
| 01:50:58 | vogon_jeltz | and they are? |
| 01:50:59 | captain_proton | mostly from watching couterstrike |
| 01:51:04 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 01:51:37 | captain_proton | have the player/score list only be shown when a key is held down (tab in CS) |
| 01:51:45 | vogon_jeltz | mmhmm |
| 01:52:03 | vogon_jeltz | I like having it permanently on, tho |
| 01:52:11 | captain_proton | could be an option |
| 01:52:22 | captain_proton | and not have a persistant control panel |
| 01:52:25 | captain_proton | have a floating radar |
| 01:52:54 | captain_proton | and (in a small font, not the huge characters that are used now) throw the messages on the side of the screen |
| 01:53:04 | vogon_jeltz | OK |
| 01:53:47 | vogon_jeltz | there should be a guided missile lock warning, too |
| 01:53:58 | vogon_jeltz | I almost got it working, but scrapped it because of segfault troubles |
| 01:53:59 | captain_proton | wouldn't that require a change to the protocol? |
| 01:54:02 | vogon_jeltz | nope |
| 01:54:13 | captain_proton | sounds good then |
| 01:54:19 | vogon_jeltz | all guided missiles the game knows about are stored on the client side :) |
| 01:54:32 | vogon_jeltz | take a look at a Tribes2 screenie |
| 01:54:49 | vogon_jeltz | I like the time-remaining/radar lock/compass combo that it has |
| 01:55:38 | captain_proton | send it over |
| 01:56:19 | vogon_jeltz | heck, I don't have a T2 screenie on me :/ |
| 01:56:24 | vogon_jeltz | wait a sec |
| 01:56:34 | captain_proton | slaps vogon_jeltz around a bit with a large trout |
| 02:32:57 | captain_proton | BZFlag: any clue about how long 'Real Soon Now' is? |
| 02:34:31 | vogon_jeltz | just like pi = 3 |
| 02:34:38 | vogon_jeltz | ... for sufficiently large values of 3 |
| 02:35:04 | captain_proton | i see |
| 02:35:48 | vogon_jeltz | makes a backup tomsrtbt |
| 02:36:08 | captain_proton | tomsrtbt? |
| 02:36:23 | vogon_jeltz | Tom's Root-boot; it's a great recovery distro on a floppy disk :) |
| 02:37:00 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 02:37:07 | vogon_jeltz | while I was out, I rebooted, flubbed up my init scripts, rebooted to tomsrtbt, fixed them, rebooted, started X, got an Internet connection, and started X-Chat |
| 02:37:29 | captain_proton | heh |
| 02:37:48 | vogon_jeltz | www.toms.net/rb |
| 02:38:52 | captain_proton | nah i already have a recovery disk |
| 02:39:01 | vogon_jeltz | not as good as this one :) |
| 02:39:13 | captain_proton | redhat rescue is fine for me |
| 02:39:38 | vogon_jeltz | ahahahaha |
| 02:43:12 | vogon_jeltz | alternately, you can burn the ElTorito version of tomsrtbt onto a CD |
| 02:45:29 | captain_proton | i'm gonna go hang out elsewhere |
| 02:45:35 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 02:49:24 | vogon_jeltz | but this is where all the cool kids are :) |
| 04:00:31 | BZFlag | captain_proton: nah. how's "sometime between today and christmas" sound? |
| 04:00:52 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 06:32:39 | captain_proton | hi guys |
| 06:32:44 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 06:32:50 | captain_proton | got juice |
| 06:32:54 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 06:33:33 | captain_proton | cran-tangerine |
| 06:33:39 | vogon_jeltz | mmm... |
| 06:34:03 | captain_proton | they didn't have any of the passion fruit-orange-guava though |
| 06:34:08 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 06:34:15 | vogon_jeltz | I love POG |
| 06:35:32 | captain_proton | POG? |
| 06:35:32 | captain_proton | oh |
| 06:35:33 | captain_proton | :) |
| 06:35:33 | captain_proton | its so weird not having a panel... |
| 06:35:33 | vogon_jeltz | yeah; up here, that juice was sold as POG |
| 06:35:33 | captain_proton | thats what it was originally in hawaii |
| 06:35:35 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 06:35:48 | captain_proton | is just running sawfish and nautilus |
| 06:35:52 | captain_proton | no gnome-session |
| 06:35:56 | vogon_jeltz | haha |
| 06:36:18 | captain_proton | its so unbelievably faster its not even funny |
| 06:37:36 | captain_proton | nautilus windows come up instantly... |
| 06:58:32 | akira | moin |
| 06:58:32 | akira | is away: I'm busy |
| 06:59:04 | captain_proton | hi |
| 07:15:45 | Chestal | re |
| 07:19:35 | Chestal | hi akira |
| 07:19:45 | akira | moin |
| 07:20:11 | akira | wie hiess der ircchannel von nvidia ? |
| 07:20:21 | Chestal | keine ahnung |
| 07:38:19 | akira | #nvidia .. aber die leute da scheinen mir begrenzte ahnung zu haben |
| 08:22:20 | Valoche | hi |
| 08:22:25 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 08:23:07 | Valoche | wow, shouldn't you be sleeping right now? 8) |
| 08:23:24 | vogon_jeltz | no |
| 08:25:59 | akira | nice site for bzflag, valoche .. respect and congrats :) |
| 08:26:30 | Valoche | thanks; I myself don't find it's very nice, but at least it almost works ;) |
| 08:26:49 | akira | its _useful_ ... thats the point |
| 08:27:01 | akira | first content, then lookalike :) |
| 08:27:44 | akira | cu all, nice weekend and happy bzflagging |
| 08:28:03 | Valoche | :) after the tourney, I'll redesign it so it'll look fancier |
| 08:31:21 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... |
| 08:31:32 | vogon_jeltz | is your server using my flags-on-buildings patch? |
| 08:32:03 | vogon_jeltz | is considering registering for the tourney |
| 08:33:33 | vogon_jeltz | hums to himself |
| 08:39:15 | Valoche | no my server, Chestal's. I don't know if it uses your patch; my client does, actually |
| 08:39:56 | vogon_jeltz | heh... |
| 08:40:57 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... I just got an idea |
| 08:41:23 | Valoche | thinks that vogon_jetlz should hurry up registering, because he only has 22 hours left |
| 08:43:02 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... |
| 08:44:57 | Valoche | oh come on, that'll be fun! |
| 08:45:16 | vogon_jeltz | just registered... |
| 08:45:16 | Valoche | what is your idea? |
| 08:45:53 | Valoche | will send the confirmation mail in 7 hours |
| 08:46:22 | vogon_jeltz | heh... my idea won't work for this tournament in particular |
| 08:46:40 | Valoche | yep, but I'd like to hear it anyway |
| 08:46:51 | vogon_jeltz | I'd like to see a tournament where the top 2 teams advance, as opposed to the top n/2 players |
| 08:47:24 | Valoche | cooperative tourney? it looks like fun, excellent idea, I'll write it down |
| 08:47:36 | vogon_jeltz | danke :) |
| 08:48:34 | Valoche | I think we'll have to have a new client and server to make things easier; when will 1.8 come out? |
| 08:48:44 | vogon_jeltz | Real Soon Now |
| 08:49:26 | Valoche | hmmm... |
| 08:50:57 | Valoche | does it have improvement that could ease setting up contests? |
| 08:51:38 | Valoche | (wow, my last sentence is syntaxically poor ;]) |
| 08:51:46 | vogon_jeltz | like I said, it will be out Real Soon Now... read the Jargon File |
| 08:52:24 | Valoche | oopsa, that means in a century or two ? ;) |
| 08:52:30 | vogon_jeltz | yep : |
| 08:52:31 | vogon_jeltz | :) |
| 08:52:53 | vogon_jeltz | in fact, it'll be out in 2 weeks |
| 08:52:57 | Valoche | okay, so it won't be double work if I start and think about it, then |
| 08:53:00 | vogon_jeltz | ... for sufficiently large values of 2 |
| 08:53:34 | Valoche | lol |
| 08:55:53 | Valoche | hey, so you are sigkill; I didn't know about that... |
| 08:56:03 | vogon_jeltz | yes |
| 08:56:28 | Valoche | and you think flags are for loosers ;) |
| 08:56:45 | vogon_jeltz | yes |
| 08:56:54 | Valoche | that's why you put'em on buildings ;)))) |
| 08:56:54 | vogon_jeltz | especially since it seems every other flag is a GM |
| 08:57:21 | vogon_jeltz | I can stand flags on non-tournament servers, but I don't want any loser GM campers ruining the game |
| 08:58:25 | Valoche | maybe timed-out (time-outed?) flags could increase the fun... |
| 08:58:40 | vogon_jeltz | yeah... that's one of the things on the WIBNI list for 1.8 |
| 08:59:00 | | valoche: no idea |
| 08:59:00 | Valoche | ibot, what is WIBNI |
| 08:59:11 | Valoche | vogon_jeltz, what is WIBNI |
| 08:59:24 | vogon_jeltz | WIBNI is "Wouldn't It Be Nice If..."; the things that we all hope will be done, but we know won't be :) |
| 08:59:41 | Valoche | k |
| 09:00:25 | Valoche | I have to go eat, see you later |
| 09:00:40 | vogon_jeltz | bye |
| 09:56:22 | vogon_jeltz | is away: watching TV and going to bed |
| 14:22:47 | Chestal | hi Shane |
| 14:52:44 | captain_proton | returns |
| 16:12:27 | captain_proton | anybody here? |
| 16:23:41 | Valoche | hi |
| 16:24:16 | captain_proton | hi Valoche |
| 16:24:57 | Valoche | Chestal, are you there ? |
| 16:25:05 | Valoche | nope; away... |
| 16:30:27 | Valoche | I redesigned a little http://bzflag.free.fr... tell me what you think |
| 16:30:44 | Valoche | (I plan to remove the frameset...) |
| 16:31:56 | captain_proton | looks nice |
| 16:32:02 | Valoche | okay |
| 16:32:13 | captain_proton | hey - i built roaming into my client but tracking doesn't seem to work - any reason why? |
| 16:32:33 | Valoche | just a sec, I'll check the source |
| 16:33:18 | captain_proton | oh nevermind |
| 16:33:23 | Valoche | did you #define FOLLOWTANK ? |
| 16:33:31 | captain_proton | no |
| 16:33:36 | Valoche | that's why |
| 16:34:19 | captain_proton | rebuilts |
| 16:34:28 | captain_proton | rebuilds rather |
| 16:35:34 | captain_proton | ever going to make me that patch? |
| 16:36:11 | Valoche | yep, when I have time. I WILL have time after the tourney, I MAY have time tonight to do that for you. |
| 16:37:24 | captain_proton | ok |
| 16:37:38 | captain_proton | hmmm - now when i press '~' it follows my tank and thats it |
| 16:38:08 | Valoche | yep, that's what roaming does; I had to write something to cycle through tanks |
| 16:38:16 | Valoche | I can send you this code right now if you want |
| 16:38:26 | captain_proton | please |
| 16:38:33 | Valoche | just a sec |
| 16:39:05 | Valoche | just a few minutes would be more realistic ;) |
| 16:40:05 | captain_proton | considers buying a new mouse |
| 16:40:48 | captain_proton | ick. $65 |
| 16:41:45 | Chestal | I'm here, just a moment |
| 16:46:08 | Valoche | cap: cordless optical? :) |
| 16:46:34 | captain_proton | yep |
| 16:47:44 | Valoche | I plan to buy one too |
| 16:48:16 | Valoche | I'm going to send you the mail, but I still need to find out WHERE in the code I added the roaming with mouse stuff... that shouldn't take too long... |
| 16:48:39 | captain_proton | the only thing that would make it better is if they did the right-handed special version like the mouseman wheel i have now |
| 16:49:30 | captain_proton | its not urgent: i'm about to leave for a class anyway |
| 16:51:04 | Valoche | mail sent |
| 16:51:32 | Valoche | I'm a left hander, so I'm waiting the new cordless optical to be available in France |
| 17:01:34 | Chestal | is back |
| 17:02:46 | Chestal | ah, tankmann has confirmed |
| 17:03:00 | Chestal | that gives another (bogus) vote against flags |
| 17:03:05 | Chestal | nice redesign, Valoche |
| 17:03:14 | Valoche | cool ;) thanks |
| 17:03:29 | Chestal | tomorrow we must add an 'up to date inforamtion' or something link to my site |
| 17:03:38 | Valoche | yep |
| 17:03:59 | Valoche | I'll add an inactive link to your site, I'll activate it and deactivate the registration |
| 17:04:01 | Chestal | btw, registration deadline, does that include confirmations? |
| 17:04:11 | Valoche | got to eat, talk to you later about that tricky point :) |
| 17:04:19 | Chestal | ok, cu later |
| 17:10:09 | Tux | Anybody out there? |
| 17:10:36 | Chestal | yes |
| 17:10:37 | Chestal | I'm here |
| 17:10:49 | Chestal | here is what I do |
| 17:11:00 | Chestal | I have a loacl directory called CVS under my home |
| 17:11:09 | Chestal | I have 'setenv CVS_RSH ssh' |
| 17:11:11 | Tux | This IRC within Mozilla doesn't scroll up. But the rest is working. |
| 17:11:14 | Chestal | (export for bash users of course) |
| 17:11:29 | Chestal | Mozilla has it's own IRC client bte (Chatzilla) |
| 17:11:35 | Chestal | should be better |
| 17:11:42 | Chestal | tasks->Irc chat |
| 17:12:11 | Chestal | then I do |
| 17:12:14 | Tux | Lets continue with this one. |
| 17:12:16 | Chestal | cvs -z9 -d:ext:chestal@cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag update -PdA |
| 17:12:18 | Chestal | for updating |
| 17:12:37 | Chestal | I think you have to use co for gettign it the first time |
| 17:12:45 | Chestal | co instead of update -Pda |
| 17:12:49 | Chestal | or maybe 'co bzflag' |
| 17:13:09 | Chestal | of course replace chestal by your sourceforge nick |
| 17:13:33 | Tux | I have to grab ssh first. |
| 17:13:36 | Chestal | uh |
| 17:13:38 | Chestal | no ssh? |
| 17:13:43 | Chestal | ssh is essential |
| 17:13:51 | Tux | Download is running. Stay tuned. |
| 17:15:13 | Tux | CVS is running. |
| 17:15:44 | Chestal | does it look good? |
| 17:15:53 | Tux | It says: chestal@cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net's password: |
| 17:16:35 | Tux | Maybe I should try my own account/password? |
| 17:16:38 | Tux | Maybe I should try my own account/password? |
| 17:17:13 | Chestal | of course :-) |
| 17:17:23 | Chestal | change the line to Tux@ or wahtever |
| 17:18:10 | Tux | My own password gave me no permission. I am not |
| 17:18:10 | Tux | My own password gave me no permission. I am not |
| 17:18:18 | Tux | My own password gave me no permission. I am not |
| 17:18:27 | Tux | flag developer |
| 17:18:51 | Tux | There are some dropouts on this IRC. |
| 17:19:52 | Chestal | hmm |
| 17:20:04 | Chestal | I don;t remember |
| 17:20:09 | Chestal | maybe you have to be developer |
| 17:20:10 | Chestal | hold on |
| 17:21:06 | Chestal | have you taken a look at the CVS page for bzflag on sourceforge? |
| 17:21:36 | Chestal | there are two commands for anonymous access |
| 17:21:44 | Chestal | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag login |
| 17:21:52 | Chestal | then |
| 17:21:52 | Chestal | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co modulename |
| 17:23:09 | Tux | What is the module name? |
| 17:23:27 | Tux | 1.7e3? |
| 17:26:03 | Tux | I've set modulename to 'bzflag'. |
| 17:26:33 | Tux | This worked. Changelog is from 25th of Sept. |
| 17:27:02 | Chestal | looks good |
| 17:27:15 | Chestal | I guess there are two modules, bzflag and bzedit |
| 17:28:52 | Tux | The newest source file I've found is src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx (Oct 3rd.). |
| 17:29:12 | Tux | I will try to compile it now. Many thanx. |
| 18:31:04 | Chestal | Valoche: still eating? |
| 18:31:09 | Chestal | must be a biiiig meal |
| 18:43:50 | Valoche | I am back |
| 18:44:14 | Valoche | I watched the news on TV, that's why it took that long |
| 18:45:03 | Valoche | take a look a the site, I uploaded the new pages before having dinner |
| 18:45:27 | Chestal | ah |
| 18:45:39 | Chestal | I talked to OTTOMAN on ducati |
| 18:45:46 | Valoche | oh, will he play? |
| 18:45:53 | Chestal | he didn't confirm because he could not find your mail |
| 18:46:12 | Valoche | d'oh |
| 18:46:19 | Chestal | he might play, he will go to the birthday tomorrow but hopes to be able toplay from there |
| 18:46:34 | Valoche | I'll confirm hi manually |
| 18:46:59 | Chestal | he seemed to be totalyl unaware that he neened to confirm, obviously didn't read the page very carefully, but he looked in his mailbox and no mail there |
| 18:47:13 | Chestal | yep, I think that's best. He might not be able to play, though |
| 18:47:18 | Valoche | just a sec, I'm checking the mails |
| 18:48:55 | Chestal | hmm, you uploaded new pages? what has changed? |
| 18:49:01 | Valoche | colors, and main page |
| 18:49:29 | Chestal | hmm, didn't it look that way an hour before? |
| 18:49:45 | Valoche | about OTTO: I sent him a mail asking if he had problems... I guess he didn't receive this |
| 18:49:47 | Chestal | still looks nice, but I can't see the difference :-) |
| 18:49:53 | Valoche | you suck ;) |
| 18:50:13 | Chestal | I used to suck my thumbs lots of years ago |
| 18:50:14 | Valoche | just a sec, I go on ducati to talk to OTTOMAN |
| 18:50:17 | Valoche | ;) |
| 18:50:37 | Chestal | what about last minute registrations? |
| 18:50:47 | Chestal | when will you be able to send the confirmation mails? |
| 18:52:17 | Chestal | hmm, there's ChatZilla, I forgot about that |
| 18:52:22 | Chestal | peopel using Mozilla could use that |
| 18:52:40 | Chestal | but there probably won't be too many mozilla users not ownign an irc client anyway |
| 19:07:25 | Valoche | hello |
| 19:07:32 | Chestal | hi |
| 19:07:39 | Valoche | okay, let's talk |
| 19:07:54 | Valoche | I'll close the registrations at 08:00am UTC |
| 19:08:06 | Valoche | I'll keep sending mails until 09:00 UTC |
| 19:08:17 | Valoche | and I'll close EVERYTHING at 10:00 UTC |
| 19:08:23 | Chestal | ok |
| 19:08:31 | Valoche | great; I'll put that on the main page |
| 19:09:09 | Chestal | I wonder why so many people are unconfirmed |
| 19:09:15 | Chestal | some won't come (Shadow) |
| 19:09:17 | Valoche | I think I'll also send a reminder to everyone who is confirmed, and setup a rendez-vous on IRC by 17:00 UTC |
| 19:09:25 | Chestal | ok, good idea |
| 19:09:33 | Valoche | CowardsOfTheMonth->Add(Shadow); |
| 19:09:42 | Chestal | hehe, he's going on vacation |
| 19:09:55 | Valoche | WorstExcuseOfTheMonth->Add(Shadow); |
| 19:09:58 | Valoche | ;) |
| 19:09:59 | Chestal | I didn't hear from blaster for about a week |
| 19:10:17 | Chestal | I don't know velo and jh, though |
| 19:10:21 | Valoche | me neither; maybe I'll do some server farming tonight |
| 19:10:25 | Valoche | I know jh |
| 19:10:41 | Chestal | I might be here later this evening, dialup at home |
| 19:10:49 | Chestal | I must get somethign to eat soon |
| 19:10:55 | Chestal | and I must watch Enterprise :-) |
| 19:11:01 | Valoche | grrrrrr |
| 19:11:13 | Valoche | Okay, I'll watch the 5th Element, then ;) |
| 19:11:28 | Chestal | bah, that's oooold |
| 19:11:52 | Valoche | yep, but it's still a great movie |
| 19:11:55 | Chestal | btw, I talked tosome peopel on ducati today when seemed to be unaware of the tournament. Guess they don't read messages while playing bzflag |
| 19:12:04 | Chestal | I don't liek 5th element that much |
| 19:12:15 | Chestal | lik eother Besson movies better, e.g. Leon |
| 19:12:28 | Valoche | Leon can be watched once, no more :) |
| 19:12:51 | Valoche | About other players: it's the first tourney, we didn't advertise for a long time, so the next one should be more popular |
| 19:12:57 | Valoche | (hopefully) |
| 19:13:08 | Chestal | about the start of each battkle: we haven't really decided what to do about that |
| 19:13:20 | Chestal | yep, but anyway I think the number of players is ok |
| 19:13:23 | Chestal | should be about 20 |
| 19:13:31 | Chestal | maybe even 25 |
| 19:13:32 | Valoche | yep; you don't have server shots ? |
| 19:13:42 | Valoche | I got 2 new regs in the last 30 minutes |
| 19:13:46 | Chestal | I tried server shots, but its not that easy |
| 19:13:59 | Chestal | problem is they have to be associated with a player |
| 19:14:05 | Valoche | and? |
| 19:14:08 | Chestal | and we can't associate them with the victim, that won't do |
| 19:14:33 | Chestal | I tried a quick hack to fool the victim into believing that the shots came from another player |
| 19:14:38 | captain_proton | Valoche: it works great |
| 19:14:39 | Valoche | why ? can't you just have X to shoot at X ? |
| 19:15:08 | Chestal | valoche: on MsgShotBegin the client tries to find the player for the shots |
| 19:15:24 | Valoche | yes, what's the problem? |
| 19:15:33 | Chestal | valoche: it searches the player[]-array. But the player itself isn';t in this array (I think) |
| 19:15:41 | Chestal | so he won't find any player and ignore the shots |
| 19:15:43 | Valoche | just a sec |
| 19:16:24 | Chestal | I have to create the ShotBegin msg manually anyway, it's quite a hack because the routined for creatign the msgs are in files not linked to the server |
| 19:17:13 | Valoche | yes you're right about the player not being in player[]; in fact, that's why you can't track the roaming camera onto yourself |
| 19:17:42 | Chestal | that design sucks |
| 19:17:47 | Valoche | kinda ;) |
| 19:18:16 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz suggested we do a complete (or nearly complete) rewrite for 2.0 to use SDL and OAL |
| 19:18:43 | Valoche | I think that if we tell people not to shoot before the counter reaches 15:00, they'll do that... |
| 19:18:51 | Chestal | Valoche: I agree |
| 19:18:58 | captain_proton | am i lagged? |
| 19:18:58 | Chestal | and who doesn't behave must be punished |
| 19:19:06 | Valoche | cap: no |
| 19:19:10 | captain_proton | good |
| 19:19:12 | Valoche | Chestal: yes >) |
| 19:19:24 | Chestal | captain: no, you're jsut being ignored |
| 19:19:38 | captain_proton | sobs |
| 19:20:23 | Chestal | comforts captain |
| 19:20:39 | Valoche | is wondering what's going on |
| 19:20:50 | captain_proton | my cookie just disentegrated |
| 19:21:07 | Valoche | SDL and OAL... hmmmm... sounds cool |
| 19:21:10 | Chestal | we really need a good Robot API |
| 19:21:15 | Chestal | robots would be sooo cool |
| 19:21:23 | captain_proton | how about just a perl interface?? |
| 19:21:24 | Valoche | I don't agree |
| 19:21:29 | Chestal | I tried to patch the curernt robot source to enhance it, but that sucked |
| 19:21:47 | captain_proton | then robots could very easily be separated out from the main code |
| 19:21:49 | Chestal | my robot paul coudl aim quite good though |
| 19:22:03 | Chestal | yes, robots should not be in player cient code at all |
| 19:22:25 | | Valoche: sorry... |
| 19:22:25 | Valoche | ibot, connect on Ducati, play BZFlag, and come back tell us your score |
| 19:22:29 | Chestal | onkel frak was working on this some time ago and now Cobra is trying to do something |
| 19:22:32 | Valoche | see? robots suck |
| 19:22:39 | Chestal | ah well, it would be fun to write bots |
| 19:22:45 | Chestal | although it's not easy |
| 19:22:48 | captain_proton | about OAL: vogon_jeltz was big on the idea of integrating a ogg player for those of use who have sucky audio drivers |
| 19:22:54 | cromwell | Yep it's sorta easy to wax the bot tanks. |
| 19:22:59 | Chestal | mine could aim very good and jsut sit there and eade shots by jumping |
| 19:23:04 | Chestal | without jumpign it sucked |
| 19:23:32 | Valoche | yes, your right, I personally think that jumping is for loosers :) |
| 19:23:37 | Chestal | Valcoche: well, back to the tournament. So, at 10:00 UTC the finakl player list will be ready? |
| 19:23:39 | captain_proton | considers writing a perl package to interface with bz |
| 19:23:47 | cromwell | jumping is fun. music would be nice too. I enjoy the game. I've played it on LAN against newbies that dinna understand how to use the radar map. *grin* |
| 19:23:50 | Chestal | Valoche: so I can download it from the admin page then? |
| 19:24:08 | Valoche | yep |
| 19:24:11 | Chestal | Jumping if for sissis |
| 19:24:35 | Chestal | Valoche: ok, fine. I will create the groups than and put it on my page |
| 19:24:44 | Chestal | Valoche: you know the URL? |
| 19:24:48 | cromwell | Then what would you call someone who hides in a wall using an oscillation overthruster and emerges only for the kill? |
| 19:25:00 | Chestal | cromwell: sneaky :-) |
| 19:25:25 | Chestal | but flying tanks are just - bizarre |
| 19:25:29 | Valoche | Chestal: yes, bookmarked it |
| 19:25:38 | Valoche | Vogon had 2 good ideas today... |
| 19:25:39 | captain_proton | whats even more bizzare is the jump sound :) |
| 19:25:42 | Valoche | 1/ Team tournament |
| 19:25:53 | Chestal | Valoche: ok, guess you'll create a link to that page then tomorrow |
| 19:25:57 | cromwell | Well if the tanks jump maybe their cannon should be able to angle shots up and down? |
| 19:26:11 | captain_proton | cromwell: check out the barrel elevation patch on sf |
| 19:26:12 | cromwell | One could snipe other tanks from ontop of a building, yes? |
| 19:26:22 | Valoche | 2/ Ability to record a game (a watch it afterwards) |
| 19:26:26 | Chestal | Valoche: team battles might be fun, of course there are no real times yet, they would have to evolve |
| 19:26:27 | cromwell | Thanks. URL, please? |
| 19:26:31 | Valoche | Chestal: that's what I4ll do |
| 19:26:38 | Chestal | the new pz sound is great |
| 19:26:49 | captain_proton | cromwell: its not too useful unless you are capable of compiling the game yourself |
| 19:26:50 | Valoche | buuuhahaaaa |
| 19:26:59 | captain_proton | goes to try out the new pz sound |
| 19:27:03 | cromwell | I use an entirely source based distribution called Sorcerer GNU Linux. |
| 19:27:17 | cromwell | Everything is compiled by me. :) |
| 19:27:34 | Ruudi | hi |
| 19:27:39 | Valoche | the problem of barrel aiming is that all clients must be patched, because they default shot's Z speed to zero |
| 19:27:41 | captain_proton | you'll need to start by checking out the CVS source, then getting whatever patches you like |
| 19:27:42 | Valoche | hey Ruudi |
| 19:27:43 | Chestal | hi Ruudi |
| 19:27:54 | captain_proton | http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/bzflag |
| 19:27:58 | cromwell | Thanks. |
| 19:28:10 | Chestal | Valoche: I think the shots' Z speed is transmitted with MsgShotBegin |
| 19:28:32 | Valoche | Yep, but it's cropped by local client |
| 19:28:42 | Chestal | cromwell, btw. we'll have a tournament tomorrow, if interested check out bzflag.free.fr |
| 19:28:48 | Valoche | ruudi: go check your mail, and click the link :) |
| 19:28:49 | Chestal | Valoche: it is? hmm |
| 19:28:53 | Valoche | yes it is |
| 19:28:58 | Chestal | Valoche: I wonder why this is done? anti cheating? |
| 19:29:05 | Ruudi | ok |
| 19:29:10 | Valoche | dunno why |
| 19:30:06 | cromwell | What happens if not all clients are patched with the tank barrel aiming patch? |
| 19:30:13 | Ruudi | thinks yeah train |
| 19:30:37 | Chestal | 9 : 5 against flags |
| 19:30:42 | Chestal | looks like no flags |
| 19:31:02 | Valoche | I found it: // comment following line if you want shots to have the same vertical |
| 19:31:02 | Valoche | // velocity as the tank when fired. keeping shots moving horizontally |
| 19:31:02 | Valoche | // makes the game more playable, though. |
| 19:31:02 | Valoche | firingInfo.shot.vel[2] = 0.0f; |
| 19:31:25 | captain_proton | oh well people keep killing me |
| 19:31:36 | Valoche | cromwell: they think you shot horizontally, and won't explode |
| 19:31:50 | cromwell | thanks. |
| 19:32:01 | cromwell | I am checking out http://bzflag.free.fr |
| 19:32:05 | captain_proton | wants to hack barrel aiming to use buttons 4 & 5 |
| 19:32:14 | Valoche | all this mess is because shotvel = initial shotvel + tankvel |
| 19:32:14 | Chestal | Valoche: when will you be on IRC tomorrow? |
| 19:32:35 | Chestal | I like that tankvel influences shotvel |
| 19:32:44 | Ruudi | damn evolution mail allmost hanged my X...anyone knows when new suse 7.3 will be downloadable if it will at all? |
| 19:32:45 | Valoche | yep, me too |
| 19:34:01 | Valoche | Chestal: I'll be on IRC from 10 to 12 (my time), then back at about 19:00 |
| 19:34:02 | Chestal | Valoche: when will you be here tomorrow? |
| 19:34:06 | Chestal | Valoche: ah, ok |
| 19:34:18 | Chestal | Valoche: I'll try and check at about 11-12 |
| 19:34:28 | Valoche | okay |
| 19:34:38 | Chestal | might be back later this evening, will drive home now |
| 19:34:49 | Ruudi | there's ever been before a bz tournament? |
| 19:34:52 | Valoche | okay bye, meanwhile I'll try and contact Blaster |
| 19:34:56 | Valoche | Ruudi: I don't think so |
| 19:35:16 | Chestal | Valoche: what will you do about Ottoman? try to contact him or just confirm manually? |
| 19:35:32 | Valoche | yeah, I just thought about that, and I am updating his reg right now... |
| 19:35:33 | Ruudi | otto is kind of killer :) |
| 19:35:43 | Chestal | Otto has trained too much |
| 19:35:45 | Chestal | he's dangerous |
| 19:35:46 | Valoche | Ruudi: yep. He'll kill us all |
| 19:36:07 | Valoche | database updated |
| 19:36:18 | Chestal | ah, it's 9:6 now |
| 19:36:25 | Ruudi | just had a chess tournament yesterday lots of brandy and 7 games that took all my mind |
| 19:36:42 | Chestal | if a player doesn't show up tomorrow, we'll just leave his slot empty, so size of that group will be smaller |
| 19:36:55 | Chestal | uh, I'm no good at chess |
| 19:37:16 | Chestal | I used toplay when I was young, but never achieved to be a good player |
| 19:37:18 | Ruudi | i got like nothing to do and then i went in to a chess lessons |
| 19:37:38 | Chestal | computers are always beating me |
| 19:37:43 | Ruudi | sry my english is not any good |
| 19:37:49 | Chestal | onlyprogram I was abel to beat was battle chess, that just sucked |
| 19:37:58 | Chestal | Ruudi: it's good enough |
| 19:38:10 | Chestal | Ruudi: you're from Estonia? |
| 19:38:21 | captain_proton | that pz sound is incredible |
| 19:38:30 | Chestal | captain: yes :-) |
| 19:38:47 | Ruudi | estonia yes |
| 19:38:50 | captain_proton | pours himself some juice |
| 19:39:05 | Chestal | well, I'm gone for now. Cu later |
| 19:39:27 | Ruudi | bye |
| 19:39:35 | Valoche | bye Chestal, see you tomorrow |
| 19:39:45 | Ruudi | i think i'll go and train a bit |
| 19:39:55 | Valoche | okay, cya |
| 19:39:59 | Chestal | Valoche, yes, probablytomorrwo morning. And thanks for your effort! |
| 19:40:13 | Valoche | you're welcome :) |
| 19:40:28 | Valoche | is going to find Blaster, now ! |
| 19:40:41 | Ruudi | takes a game |
| 19:41:03 | captain_proton | the kill team sound is cool too |
| 19:43:40 | Valoche | ;) |
| 19:43:53 | Valoche | but the jump and land sounds are uggly |
| 19:47:34 | captain_proton | yes i agree |
| 19:48:23 | Valoche | is going to update the web site |
| 19:48:33 | captain_proton | how long will it take? |
| 19:48:55 | Valoche | dunno |
| 19:49:06 | captain_proton | < 5 minutes? |
| 19:49:26 | Valoche | more than 5 minutes, that sure :) |
| 19:49:48 | captain_proton | ok, i'm going to class |
| 19:49:53 | Valoche | oh, wait, did you receive my mail ? did you try it ? did... ? |
| 19:50:04 | captain_proton | yes - works great |
| 19:50:16 | captain_proton | the only thing i'd like is a 'free follow' mode... |
| 19:50:24 | Valoche | cool; don't try it when you are alone on a server, it will hang |
| 19:50:29 | Valoche | free follow ? what do you mean? |
| 19:51:06 | captain_proton | where you can choose the placement of your camera but it sets the target of the camera on the tank |
| 19:51:29 | Valoche | that's what I got when I first tried the tracking stuff ;) |
| 19:51:33 | captain_proton | so by moving the mouse you could make a full sphere (circle) around the tank |
| 19:51:42 | Valoche | that's not what I got |
| 19:51:56 | captain_proton | it would require some additional hacking |
| 19:52:02 | captain_proton | but it would be much easier |
| 19:52:10 | captain_proton | easier to watch, not to code :) |
| 19:52:25 | Valoche | it doesn't seam too complicated to code, you know... |
| 19:52:42 | captain_proton | it would be sortof like what i've done in bzedit |
| 19:52:46 | captain_proton | time to go to class... |
| 19:52:55 | Valoche | okay, cheers to the students ;) |
| 20:10:27 | Ruudi | huh |
| 20:10:38 | Ruudi | trained inuff doesn't get any better |
| 20:13:12 | Valoche | heh |
| 20:13:17 | Valoche | did you play on ducati? |
| 20:17:35 | Valoche | hey lupinator |
| 20:18:07 | Chestal | Valoche: I changed my page to black, do you think the white tables are still ok? |
| 20:18:42 | Valoche | maybe light gray would be less aggressive |
| 20:19:16 | lupinator | hiho |
| 20:19:53 | lupinator | ah tankmann confirmed |
| 20:19:59 | Valoche | cool |
| 20:20:12 | Valoche | oh-ho, very nice, Chestal :) |
| 20:20:14 | Chestal | choose your color :-) |
| 20:20:33 | Chestal | the yellow-orange is hard to rea on grey, though |
| 20:20:57 | Chestal | what does nosave in the body tag mean, btw.? |
| 20:21:13 | Valoche | I'd say #2, and blue background #3333FF for the group name |
| 20:21:21 | Valoche | nosave := don't cache |
| 20:21:29 | Chestal | I'll try |
| 20:21:29 | Valoche | (I guess, it's Netscape's stuff) |
| 20:22:30 | lupinator | isnt there a meta tag to disable cahing? |
| 20:22:40 | Valoche | no-cache |
| 20:22:44 | Valoche | not my fault, Netscape's |
| 20:23:34 | Chestal | who's flash? |
| 20:23:44 | Valoche | just a sec |
| 20:24:00 | lupinator | i'm trying to run my computer with less active cooling |
| 20:24:33 | Valoche | flash is kengo... |
| 20:24:34 | Chestal | avoiding noise? |
| 20:24:43 | lupinator | yup |
| 20:25:01 | Valoche | Chestal: blue is too light, try #3333DD |
| 20:25:05 | Chestal | doesn not know any kengo |
| 20:25:20 | Valoche | neither |
| 20:26:15 | Valoche | I am going to send a reminder to every registered member (confirmed or not). |
| 20:27:08 | lupinator | get them to use irc |
| 20:27:19 | Valoche | okay, I'll tell that too |
| 20:27:22 | Chestal | is going to watch Enterprise now |
| 20:27:34 | Valoche | cya Chestal |
| 20:28:14 | lupinator | in your office? |
| 20:28:28 | Valoche | me? |
| 20:28:32 | lupinator | chestal |
| 20:28:39 | Valoche | no, he's at home ;) |
| 20:28:49 | lupinator | chestal is at home?! |
| 20:29:17 | Valoche | yep, he left his office a couple of hours ago |
| 20:29:27 | Valoche | weird, uh ? :) |
| 20:29:31 | lupinator | strange |
| 20:30:08 | lupinator | i thought he has to be there all day because he is playing too much bz during work |
| 20:30:18 | Valoche | ;) |
| 20:31:29 | Ruudi | huh should go to sleep |
| 20:31:30 | Chestal | I can see what you write! |
| 20:32:34 | Valoche | hey, aren't ya supposed to watch TV ?!? |
| 20:32:50 | lupinator | hey my cpu is stil alive |
| 20:33:05 | Ruudi | tv who me? |
| 20:33:11 | Valoche | no, Chestal |
| 20:33:13 | Ruudi | ok |
| 20:33:25 | Ruudi | tv suck bit to much for me |
| 20:33:27 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 10:37:01) |
| 20:33:52 | Ruudi | better plays hes bass - to neighbours |
| 20:34:02 | Valoche | hehe |
| 20:34:28 | vogon_jeltz | *yawn* |
| 20:34:43 | Ruudi | interesting why don't they never say that it's to loud or something |
| 20:35:03 | Ruudi | but i like to play after midnight |
| 20:35:16 | Valoche | maybe they enjoy it ? ;) |
| 20:35:26 | Chestal | I'm not watching TV, I'm watching mpeg |
| 20:36:03 | Ruudi | mpeg hmm that's beter :) even if you wach a comercial :) |
| 20:36:32 | Valoche | they watch it fullscreen so we can talk ;) |
| 20:36:52 | Ruudi | should download some moviest to myself |
| 20:38:15 | Ruudi | sees that there is nothing good today to download |
| 20:39:51 | Ruudi | so Valoche where you from? |
| 20:40:01 | Valoche | I'm from Grenoble, France |
| 20:40:29 | Ruudi | ok france says more that the first name |
| 20:40:35 | Ruudi | than |
| 20:40:37 | Ruudi | damn |
| 20:40:40 | Ruudi | english |
| 20:40:50 | Valoche | I know, I have the same problem :) |
| 20:41:53 | vogon_jeltz | is American... most Americans have problems with English, too :) |
| 20:42:05 | Ruudi | thats right too |
| 20:42:25 | Ruudi | võin ka omas keeles rääkida aga keegi ai saa sittagi aru siis :) |
| 20:42:55 | Valoche | wow, did you see a doctor for that ? ;) |
| 20:43:19 | Ruudi | i sure talk in my own language but you all will get a shit about it... |
| 20:43:45 | Valoche | hmmm... it says "I think OMA is an 80 year-old chick sitting on a rocking chair". Correct ? ;) |
| 20:44:08 | Ruudi | :) |
| 20:44:21 | Ruudi | 83 |
| 20:44:37 | Valoche | okay, so "aga keegi" is "83". Cool |
| 20:44:57 | Ruudi | aga keegi - but noone |
| 20:45:29 | Ruudi | it can't be translated word by word |
| 20:45:56 | Valoche | Milles see eriline dressuur seisneb? |
| 20:46:10 | Ruudi | hmm |
| 20:46:23 | Ruudi | no mis segast nyyd rebid siis? |
| 20:46:52 | Valoche | hjaks korraga |
| 20:46:52 | Valoche | nelja panka. |
| 20:46:57 | Ruudi | hah |
| 20:47:02 | Valoche | busted! ;) |
| 20:47:08 | Ruudi | you take just some estonian from kind of web? |
| 20:47:08 | Valoche | stupid copy/paste :) |
| 20:47:10 | Valoche | yep |
| 20:47:13 | Valoche | from Google |
| 20:47:18 | Ruudi | yeah |
| 20:47:22 | Ruudi | i thought so |
| 20:47:35 | Valoche | I do hope do thought so, BTW, what did I say ? |
| 20:48:33 | Ruudi | you say that "hjaks korraga" hjaks - that word has no any meaning just junk like lkjfdladk but korraga is together |
| 20:48:44 | Ruudi | and eriline dressur is special training |
| 20:48:51 | Valoche | and my first sentence ? |
| 20:49:21 | Ruudi | milles seisneb eriline dressuur? what's the special training...or something like that |
| 20:49:42 | Valoche | oh... so that kinda was appropriate :))) |
| 20:49:53 | Ruudi | :98 |
| 20:50:07 | Valoche | I must have confused you a little :) I'm proud of myself 8-) |
| 20:50:08 | Ruudi | huh should get some rest i gess |
| 20:50:23 | Valoche | Yeah, me too, cya tomorrow, 17:00 UTC here |
| 20:50:29 | Ruudi | ok |
| 20:50:38 | Valoche | night-night |
| 20:50:44 | Ruudi | cu |
| 20:50:47 | Ruudi | head ööd |
| 20:50:48 | lupinator | bye |
| 20:50:58 | Ruudi | that means good night :) |
| 20:51:07 | Ruudi | bye |
| 20:51:09 | Ruudi | is away: I'm busy |
| 20:55:56 | Chestal | hmm, SIGKILL votes for no flag |
| 20:56:13 | Chestal | I guess this almost settles this |
| 20:56:32 | Valoche | how do ya no that ? |
| 20:56:38 | Valoche | ...know... |
| 21:00:35 | Valoche | sourceforge.net mail is buggy... |
| 21:00:40 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 21:00:43 | Valoche | Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mail.sourceforge.net[216.136.171.198] said: |
| 21:00:44 | Valoche | 550 Syntax error in 'To' header: "@" or "." expected after |
| 21:00:44 | Valoche | "Undisclosed-Recipient": failing address is: |
| 21:00:44 | Valoche | <Undisclosed-Recipient:;@tourian.nerim.net> |
| 21:01:00 | Valoche | I'll send you the mail individually |
| 21:01:04 | vogon_jeltz | mine is not sourceforge.net mail :) |
| 21:01:13 | vogon_jeltz | I just use a sourceforge.net alias |
| 21:01:37 | Valoche | Well, I tried to send you a mail, and that's what I got back ;) |
| 21:01:42 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 21:01:57 | vogon_jeltz | I'm hoping you're sending it right ;) |
| 21:02:59 | vogon_jeltz | my actual addy is nowhere near tourian.nerim.net |
| 21:03:32 | Valoche | it *may* be related to stupid outlook |
| 21:03:50 | Valoche | I resent the mail to you directly |
| 21:04:12 | vogon_jeltz | send it to vogon_jeltz@users.sourceforge.net |
| 21:04:14 | vogon_jeltz | don't reply |
| 21:04:49 | Valoche | you mean don't reply the error message, dontcha? ;) |
| 21:04:59 | vogon_jeltz | sourceforge.net's user mail system has something to block people who reply to mails from them :) |
| 21:05:55 | Valoche | Actually, the reply I got was from MAILER-DAEMON@tourian.nerim.net |
| 21:06:02 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 21:06:07 | vogon_jeltz | that's not me |
| 21:06:17 | Valoche | but it's okay, I just forwarded you the message |
| 21:06:22 | vogon_jeltz | OK, whatever |
| 21:06:27 | Valoche | touriam.nerim.net is my SMTP server |
| 21:06:55 | Valoche | so far, 22 players confirmed their registration :) |
| 21:07:17 | vogon_jeltz | heh... you should have people connect to irc.openprojects.net |
| 21:07:27 | Valoche | I tell them that in the message |
| 21:07:28 | vogon_jeltz | niven is simply a subserver of the OpenProjectsNet IRC network |
| 21:07:37 | Valoche | oopsa |
| 21:07:49 | vogon_jeltz | if you have 30 people joining a server at once, you might push them over the netlag limitations |
| 21:07:56 | vogon_jeltz | which means... netsplit! |
| 21:08:00 | Valoche | ooooooooopsa!!!!!!! |
| 21:08:34 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 21:09:06 | Valoche | I guess most of them will use the web interface, so it will be ok |
| 21:09:25 | Valoche | by the by, what is a netsplit ? |
| 21:10:09 | Chestal | 11:6 on the flags issue, we'll play without flags |
| 21:10:26 | Valoche | stop smiling, I wanted to play with flags ;)) |
| 21:10:40 | Chestal | well, I kinda hoped we would, too |
| 21:10:50 | Chestal | I can only score with narrow :-) |
| 21:11:05 | Chestal | can I chnage my vote? :-) |
| 21:11:10 | Valoche | you are mean with narrow |
| 21:11:21 | Valoche | Chestal: well, *I* can change votes >) |
| 21:12:02 | Chestal | everyone who hasn't comfired yet would have to vote for flags to change the result |
| 21:12:06 | Chestal | well, let's wait and se |
| 21:12:25 | vogon_jeltz | takes down the boxen of all the people who haven't confirmed |
| 21:12:37 | Valoche | ibot, x en fr boxen |
| 21:12:38 | | Valoche: boxen |
| 21:12:53 | vogon_jeltz | I'm not going to show up if there are flags... |
| 21:12:58 | Chestal | how to translate to german? de? ger? |
| 21:13:24 | Chestal | we cpuld have only bad flags ;-) |
| 21:13:38 | vogon_jeltz | boxen is the plural of box :) |
| 21:13:50 | vogon_jeltz | like oxen but with a b :) |
| 21:13:52 | Valoche | ibot, x de en idioten |
| 21:13:53 | | Valoche: idiots |
| 21:14:05 | Valoche | it's "de" :) |
| 21:14:06 | Chestal | ibot, x en de kindergarten |
| 21:14:10 | | Chestal: Kindergarten |
| 21:14:13 | | de nada Chestal |
| 21:14:13 | Chestal | ibot: thanks |
| 21:14:40 | Chestal | ibot, x de en Was ist ein Knecht? |
| 21:14:41 | | Chestal: What is a farmhand? |
| 21:14:41 | Valoche | ibot, x en de playground |
| 21:14:42 | | Valoche: Spielplatz |
| 21:14:59 | Chestal | hmm |
| 21:15:13 | Chestal | ibot, x de en The weather is fine today. |
| 21:15:14 | | Chestal: The more weather is fine today. |
| 21:15:15 | Chestal | oops |
| 21:15:24 | Chestal | ibot, x en de The weather is fine today. |
| 21:15:25 | | Chestal: Das Wetter ist fein heute. |
| 21:15:30 | Chestal | hehe |
| 21:15:55 | Chestal | ibot: x de en Der Wind, der von Norden kommt, ist der kaelteste. |
| 21:15:56 | | Chestal: The wind, which comes from the north, is the coldest. |
| 21:16:04 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 21:16:10 | Valoche | ibot, x fr en Les escargots sont tres bons a manger |
| 21:16:11 | | Valoche: The snails are very good has to eat |
| 21:16:16 | Valoche | lol |
| 21:16:19 | Chestal | hmm, he _can_ translate whole sentences, he chaged word order |
| 21:16:29 | Chestal | what kind of software is behind that? |
| 21:16:30 | vogon_jeltz | wonders if ibot knows Esperanto |
| 21:16:44 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: it parses a response from the Babelfish website |
| 21:17:02 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: Babelfish is a notoriously bad translation engine |
| 21:17:04 | Chestal | vogon_jeltz: but it's fast |
| 21:17:09 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 21:17:12 | Valoche | uh-oh... are we talking about Douglas Adams again ? |
| 21:17:17 | lupinator | ibot, x de en babelfish saugt |
| 21:17:17 | vogon_jeltz | no |
| 21:17:18 | | lupinator: babelfish sucks |
| 21:17:33 | Chestal | vogon: I din't know that babelfish is that fast, so I thought it was some kind of local software |
| 21:17:39 | Chestal | all automatic translators suck |
| 21:17:45 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 21:17:48 | Chestal | but babelfish is one of the worst |
| 21:17:55 | Chestal | ok, back to Enterprise |
| 21:18:02 | vogon_jeltz | actually, some translator/word processors are quite good |
| 21:18:12 | lupinator | ibot, x de en auf den schirm! |
| 21:18:13 | | lupinator: on the screen! |
| 21:18:52 | Valoche | x sp en yo loverio que playamos con FLAGS |
| 21:18:57 | lupinator | ibot, x de en fischers fritze fischt frische fische |
| 21:18:58 | | lupinator: Fischer's Fritz fishes blows fishes |
| 21:19:18 | lupinator | hehe |
| 21:19:22 | Valoche | lupinator: you are sick ;) |
| 21:20:12 | Valoche | vogon: I have a clue on how "x" works: |
| 21:20:17 | Valoche | ibot, x fr fr ozieru |
| 21:20:18 | | Valoche: * What browser you were using. |
| 21:20:20 | Valoche | hehe |
| 21:20:30 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 21:24:36 | Valoche | us, french citizen, are bad people; do you know why ? |
| 21:26:13 | vogon_jeltz | BZFlag: heh... hi :) |
| 21:26:23 | vogon_jeltz | BZFlag: what happened to engk and the other box? :P |
| 21:26:52 | Chestal | ibot: x en de You are now marked as being away. |
| 21:26:53 | | Chestal: Sie werden jetzt als seiend weg gekennzeichnet. |
| 21:27:01 | | Chestal: huh? |
| 21:27:01 | Chestal | ibot: hoho! |
| 21:27:24 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: x en de <HTML> |
| 21:27:25 | | vogon_jeltz: , |
| 21:27:26 | Valoche | They are away indicated now as being |
| 21:27:29 | vogon_jeltz | haha |
| 21:27:42 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: x en de <KLOZNAR> |
| 21:27:43 | | vogon_jeltz: , |
| 21:27:46 | vogon_jeltz | damn |
| 21:28:03 | Valoche | just wait for the end... |
| 21:28:05 | BZFlag | vogon_jeltz: you know, IS is never happy unless they make constant changes. |
| 21:28:09 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: x en de <A HREF="file:///dev/urandom"> |
| 21:28:10 | | vogon_jeltz: , |
| 21:28:13 | vogon_jeltz | darn |
| 21:28:15 | vogon_jeltz | BZFlag: hehe |
| 21:28:15 | Valoche | x en fr fuck you |
| 21:28:29 | Valoche | ibot, x en fr fuck you |
| 21:28:30 | | Valoche: baisez-vous |
| 21:28:32 | BZFlag | Valoche: uh, better ask ibot |
| 21:28:38 | Valoche | ibot, x fr en baisez-vous |
| 21:28:39 | | Valoche: kiss you |
| 21:28:43 | Valoche | funny, uh ? ;) |
| 21:28:44 | vogon_jeltz | hahahahahahahah |
| 21:28:57 | Valoche | we are bad, bad, sick bad french people |
| 21:30:27 | vogon_jeltz | has an IRC friend that lost a hard drive yesterday |
| 21:30:42 | Valoche | where did he loose it? |
| 21:30:52 | lupinator | can't happen to me. mine is mounted |
| 21:31:05 | vogon_jeltz | in his computer... the head ripped up the platters but good :/ |
| 21:31:41 | Valoche | and it gently blew up? |
| 21:32:03 | vogon_jeltz | no, just made everyone's favorite clunk-clunk-screeeeeeeeech |
| 21:32:14 | lupinator | he sure had to do something important |
| 21:32:28 | vogon_jeltz | prolly, yeah :) |
| 21:32:39 | Valoche | clunk-clunk-screeech clunk-clunk-screech we will we will rock you clunk-clunk-screeech |
| 21:32:47 | vogon_jeltz | haha |
| 21:33:02 | lupinator | drives preferably crash when you you're close to finishing your work |
| 21:33:37 | vogon_jeltz | needs some kind of backup device for his box |
| 21:33:57 | Valoche | no, the crash when you just thought that you could erase this backup floppy because you needed one and that's the only one you found. The hard drive crashes just after the floppy has been deleted |
| 21:42:52 | Valoche | time to sleep, good night all, cu tomorrow |
| 21:43:04 | vogon_jeltz | bye |
| 21:43:17 | lupinator | ibot, x de fr gut nacht |
| 21:43:19 | | lupinator: bien nuit |
| 21:43:23 | lupinator | ibot, x de fr guet nacht |
| 21:43:24 | | lupinator: guet nuit |
| 21:43:26 | lupinator | argh |
| 21:43:27 | Valoche | ibot, x fr de bonne nuit |
| 21:43:28 | | Valoche: gute Nacht |
| 21:43:30 | lupinator | ibot, x de fr gute nacht |
| 21:43:31 | | lupinator: bonne nuit |
| 21:43:32 | Valoche | see? ;) |
| 21:43:39 | Valoche | bye |
| 21:43:39 | vogon_jeltz | :) |
| 21:44:07 | Chestal | ibot, x en fr good night |
| 21:44:08 | | Chestal: bonne nuit |
| 21:44:22 | Chestal | ibot: x en fr sweet dreams |
| 21:44:23 | | Chestal: doux rêves |
| 21:44:58 | vogon_jeltz | nn |
| 21:46:16 | | OK, BZFlag. |
| 21:46:16 | BZFlag | ibot thinks irc is in utf8 |
| 21:46:30 | | BZFlag: I forgot thinks irc |
| 21:46:30 | BZFlag | ibot: forget thinks irc |
| 22:34:11 | Chestal | oho! Zeus! |
| 22:34:19 | ZEUS | hello all |
| 22:34:25 | Chestal | ZEUS: have you confirmed your regsitrationn? |
| 22:34:37 | ZEUS | just now :) |
| 22:34:45 | Chestal | great! |
| 22:35:00 | ZEUS | glad to see there will be no flags |
| 22:35:22 | Chestal | I need to hire some players who register and vote for flags ;-) |
| 22:35:37 | Chestal | I need my narrow |
| 22:35:51 | ZEUS | no way, one laser flag could easily win, or narrow |
| 22:36:03 | ZEUS | i hat narrow worse that laser |
| 22:36:06 | Chestal | you are using cgi irc? |
| 22:36:23 | ZEUS | i don't know just downloaded it |
| 22:36:23 | BZFlag | ZEUS is |
| 22:36:30 | Chestal | that's kind of a last ressort access, better to use an irc client |
| 22:36:43 | Chestal | ZEUS: you are accessing IRC thru yur web browser righ tnow |
| 22:36:51 | Chestal | ZEUS: what did you download? |
| 22:37:13 | ZEUS | what ever i saw at the recommended site by voloche |
| 22:37:24 | Chestal | ZEUS: ah, that's mirc |
| 22:37:34 | ZEUS | does it cause problems |
| 22:37:35 | Chestal | ZEUS: should be fairly easy to setup |
| 22:38:07 | ZEUS | have i been joining the wrong way? |
| 22:38:26 | Chestal | ZEUS: well, you have righ tnow joined withotu mirc by just using your web browser |
| 22:38:42 | Chestal | ZEUS: that is ok, but with mirc it is faster and easier to use |
| 22:38:57 | ZEUS | i will try it, this was just easy |
| 22:39:00 | Chestal | ZEUS: the web based access is just some kind of emergency access |
| 22:39:17 | ZEUS | ok, brb - hopefully |
| 22:39:21 | Chestal | ok |
| 22:42:11 | Chestal | hi zeus |
| 22:42:21 | zeus_bzflag | unbelievable, i actually did it |
| 22:42:50 | Chestal | I'm glad that people don't seem to have problems accessing IRC |
| 22:42:59 | Chestal | I was a little nervous abou tit |
| 22:43:07 | zeus_bzflag | about tit |
| 22:43:13 | BZFlag | freudian slip? |
| 22:43:14 | Chestal | about it :-) |
| 22:43:20 | zeus_bzflag | lol |
| 22:43:23 | Chestal | I guess I shoudl go to bed |
| 22:43:37 | zeus_bzflag | seems there has been a good turnout for this tourney |
| 22:43:46 | Chestal | yes, looks quite nice so far |
| 22:43:55 | Chestal | let's hope everythign will run smoothly |
| 22:44:27 | Chestal | btw. check out the web page for 1st round group assignments at about 11:00 UTC tomorrow |
| 22:44:29 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: I wish I could show up as a spectator if I can't make it to the game :/ |
| 22:44:50 | zeus_bzflag | I'm hoping that the time converts into @1:00PM us cst |
| 22:45:17 | vogon_jeltz | it does |
| 22:45:33 | Chestal | hi laz |
| 22:45:43 | Bubba | hey! |
| 22:45:56 | Bubba | it wouldnt let me use Lazarus |
| 22:46:10 | Chestal | somebody else is using it |
| 22:46:10 | zeus_bzflag | I need to start an alias list so I can keep up with everyone |
| 22:46:21 | Bubba | so what time would the tournament be in Central Time ( US ) |
| 22:46:31 | Chestal | there are lots of nn-bzflag peopel on this server |
| 22:46:36 | Bubba | WHOS USING MY NAME!!!?? |
| 22:46:39 | Chestal | bubba: shoudl be 1 PM |
| 22:46:48 | Bubba | ok 1 PM |
| 22:46:52 | vogon_jeltz | --- [lazarus] (lazarus@64-214-253-30.dsl1.ROC.gblx.net) : Who do you think? |
| 22:46:53 | vogon_jeltz | --- [lazarus] #debian |
| 22:46:53 | vogon_jeltz | --- [lazarus] benford.openprojects.net :[127.0.0.1] Bezerkeley, California US |
| 22:46:53 | vogon_jeltz | --- [Lazarus] End of WHOIS list. |
| 22:46:55 | Chestal | bubba: do /whois zeus |
| 22:46:56 | lupinator | hey laz |
| 22:47:04 | Bubba | lupi |
| 22:47:16 | Chestal | bubba: but it's best to be here a bit early |
| 22:47:37 | Bubba | so we meet here and not your server?? |
| 22:47:40 | Chestal | bubba: we will have 1st round groups and schedule up at about 11:00 UTC tomorrow |
| 22:47:58 | Chestal | bubba: we'll meet here, of course I wil also watch ducati server |
| 22:48:06 | vogon_jeltz | hah... that's 6 in the morning, central time |
| 22:48:06 | Chestal | bubba: but meetin ghere is better |
| 22:48:17 | Bubba | eeeekkk 6 AM |
| 22:48:32 | zeus_bzflag | I hope you are joking |
| 22:48:33 | vogon_jeltz | it's 4 here |
| 22:48:34 | Chestal | bubba: well, so you can check the groups any time you want |
| 22:48:44 | Bubba | ill be here |
| 22:48:56 | Bubba | how many players so far? |
| 22:48:58 | Chestal | we won't play on duacti port 5155 btw. |
| 22:49:03 | Bubba | i want Oma! |
| 22:49:06 | Chestal | bubba: 22 have confirmed |
| 22:49:10 | lupinator | oma is ill |
| 22:49:17 | Chestal | Oma's PC is ill, too |
| 22:49:21 | Bubba | so hes always sick |
| 22:49:29 | Bubba | lol |
| 22:49:50 | lupinator | looks like now he's even more than usually |
| 22:49:58 | Chestal | bubba: you can see for yourself who has confirmed on bzflag.free.fr (attendees) |
| 22:50:24 | Bubba | yeah but im lazy and havent checked yet i just got home from work not long ago |
| 22:51:00 | Chestal | Bubba: ah. How about the time for the tournament? is it ok for you? not that easy to find a time which suits everone over the world |
| 22:51:22 | Chestal | I guess there are no asians or people from australie, they wouldn't liek the time |
| 22:51:23 | Bubba | if it is 1 pm my time that is fine |
| 22:51:41 | Chestal | Bubba: when it#s 7pm now? |
| 22:51:59 | Bubba | yeah im 7 hours behind you in germany |
| 22:52:11 | lupinator | eh |
| 22:52:29 | Chestal | tomorrow Valoche's site will have a new link for current information |
| 22:52:30 | cdm | BZFlag: you kicking? |
| 22:52:40 | Chestal | we have a UTC clock on there |
| 22:52:48 | Bubba | ok |
| 22:52:59 | Bubba | you guys use IRC alot then? |
| 22:53:15 | Chestal | Bubba: I use it everyday for 9 years or so |
| 22:53:25 | Bubba | i used to mess around some on it |
| 22:54:26 | Chestal | wel, I really have to go to bed now, it's late here |
| 22:54:32 | vogon_jeltz | nn |
| 22:54:41 | Chestal | good night everyone, cu tomorrow |
| 22:54:45 | Bubba | cya tomorrow |
| 22:54:45 | lupinator | nacht chestal |
| 22:54:54 | Bubba | hey lupi? |
| 22:55:07 | lupinator | bubba? |
| 22:55:20 | Bubba | im coming for ya tomorrow hehe |
| 22:55:44 | zeus_bzflag | later |
| 22:55:50 | lupinator | so long |
| 22:55:56 | Bubba | cya zues |
| 22:56:08 | lupinator | i'm glad you're going to join us |
| 22:56:28 | Bubba | i wasnt at first, but then seen so few had joined |
| 22:56:29 | lupinator | then it'll be official that i kick your ass :) |
| 22:56:53 | Bubba | i want frank and kono to play though |
| 22:56:58 | Bubba | lol |
| 22:57:09 | lupinator | i'm missing blaster |
| 22:57:26 | lupinator | frank is playing |
| 22:57:29 | Chestal | bubba: well, Onkel Frank will be there |
| 22:57:31 | Bubba | ill be playing on my new comp that has only a 8MB Savage graphics card though |
| 22:57:40 | Chestal | bubba: althogh his connection isn't the best currently |
| 22:57:58 | Chestal | I can use my bad gfx as excuse also :-) |
| 22:58:10 | Bubba | the ground flashes different colors and its hard to see bullets and my fps is below 20 :( |
| 22:58:37 | Chestal | flashgn colors? you sure you didn't smoke something strange? ;-= |
| 22:58:38 | Bubba | LOL chest i just baught a 1.2 gig Athlon and it has that crappy card |
| 22:59:10 | Chestal | hmm, fps under 20 is really bad |
| 22:59:17 | Chestal | even mine averages around 25 |
| 22:59:28 | Bubba | yeah it falshes different colors depending on where I drive(almost like when ya hav PZ) |
| 22:59:30 | Chestal | it's only bad when I am near a building and facing it |
| 22:59:30 | vogon_jeltz | what resolution? |
| 22:59:57 | Chestal | I'm using 800x600 8bit, everything turned off except lighting |
| 23:00:09 | vogon_jeltz | ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 23:00:10 | Chestal | and I hate my tiny radar |
| 23:00:11 | Bubba | sometimes i cant read the scores or players because all the writting appears as little blocks |
| 23:00:19 | vogon_jeltz | my Voodoo5 ownz j00! |
| 23:00:45 | Chestal | someday I'll get a 3D card and I will be invincible |
| 23:00:48 | Bubba | im at 800x600 too |
| 23:01:06 | Chestal | so long I'm usin git as an excuse whenever I'm losing |
| 23:01:07 | Bubba | im supposed to be getting gforce 3 soon |
| 23:02:05 | Bubba | where is Cap Proton? |
| 23:02:15 | vogon_jeltz | with friends... whatever those are |
| 23:02:20 | Bubba | lol |
| 23:02:30 | Chestal | cap proton, cap electron, this ocnfuses me |
| 23:02:31 | Bubba | so who are you Vogon |
| 23:02:46 | vogon_jeltz | SIGKILL |
| 23:02:52 | vogon_jeltz | I'm not going to be at the tourney, tho |
| 23:02:56 | vogon_jeltz | is a coder |
| 23:03:14 | Bubba | ah |
| 23:03:28 | vogon_jeltz | I suck at BZFlag itself, but I know the code :) |
| 23:03:35 | Chestal | well, now I a really going to bed. Let's hope that fate will put me in an easy group :-) Cu |
| 23:03:46 | Bubba | cya |
| 23:03:49 | vogon_jeltz | bye |
| 23:03:52 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: nn |
| 23:03:56 | Bubba | im outta here too |
| 23:03:58 | lupinator | bxe |
| 23:04:08 | lupinator | i'm off, too |