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16:40.42 | Fredjikrang | howdy? |
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16:40.58 | Fredjikrang | Hi! |
16:41.11 | wps | howdy |
16:42.15 | Fredjikrang | Think many people will show up today? |
16:42.21 | wps | no |
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16:43.11 | Fredjikrang | well, a couple people at least. :D |
16:43.21 | Fredjikrang | Who else is excited? |
16:43.27 | whyisjake | I sure am... |
16:43.32 | Fredjikrang | ...? |
16:43.44 | whyisjake | It has been like 3 months since my last hardware purchase... |
16:43.48 | whyisjake | Time for something new... |
16:44.00 | Fredjikrang | lol, yeah |
16:44.36 | Fredjikrang | It has been like, five years since I last bought something that wasn't used, but still, I am excited. :D |
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16:48.22 | Fredjikrang | Hi! |
16:48.25 | feutetejsd | hello |
16:49.13 | whyisjake | Do you know if there is any IRC of the event live? |
16:51.05 | Fredjikrang | I don't |
16:51.11 | feutetejsd | I don't know |
16:51.15 | Fredjikrang | Macrumors.com has a list of live places |
16:51.22 | Fredjikrang | but I haven't really looked at it |
16:54.48 | Fredjikrang | hmm |
16:55.13 | Fredjikrang | Guess I'll try to start my laundry before it starts. :D |
16:58.25 | wps | good morning, feutetejsd |
16:58.30 | feutetejsd | hey wps |
17:00.19 | wps | a new version of SSH Key Chain has been released, btw |
17:02.12 | wps | the store is down: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore |
17:02.16 | Fredjikrang | oooo |
17:02.27 | Fredjikrang | Of course that always happens. |
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17:04.00 | Fredjikrang | Yay for imac updates! |
17:04.07 | Fredjikrang | http://www.slashphone.com/live/index.php |
17:04.09 | ryoujou | hooray! |
17:05.49 | Fredjikrang | alluminum, glass |
17:05.50 | Fredjikrang | hmm |
17:06.00 | ryoujou | brushed metal |
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17:06.24 | Fredjikrang | much thinne |
17:06.25 | Fredjikrang | r |
17:06.37 | Fredjikrang | I am so excited! |
17:06.57 | ryoujou | nice |
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17:07.02 | ryoujou | upgradeable memory |
17:07.14 | Fredjikrang | I think it is going to be as thin as their displays. :D |
17:07.15 | bjhomer | where are you guys watching it? |
17:07.29 | ryoujou | tuaw, engadget, and slashphone |
17:07.37 | Fredjikrang | 20 and 24" |
17:07.42 | Fredjikrang | slashphone is the best today. |
17:07.50 | Fredjikrang | http://www.slashphone.com/live/index.php |
17:07.55 | ryoujou | yeah, everyone else is slow |
17:07.59 | Fredjikrang | .33"! |
17:08.03 | Fredjikrang | what?!?! |
17:08.10 | ryoujou | wow |
17:08.17 | Fredjikrang | is that the keyboard or the mac? |
17:08.35 | wps | oh… gag… no |
17:08.41 | wps | not dedicated keys on the keyboard |
17:08.43 | wps | please, Apple, no |
17:08.47 | wps | that is SO Microsoft |
17:08.50 | Fredjikrang | lol |
17:09.15 | Fredjikrang | I'm sure it will be done in a very apple way. |
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17:09.36 | ryoujou | where are the pics?! |
17:09.43 | wps | glossy displays are garbage |
17:09.46 | feutetejsd | wps, what do you mean "not dedicated keys on the keyboard"? |
17:10.00 | wps | like a special email, music, or web key |
17:10.04 | Fredjikrang | dedicated media keys |
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17:10.15 | wps | that launches/controls those respective apps |
17:10.34 | ryoujou | pics on engadget |
17:10.44 | Fredjikrang | 17" too, yay! |
17:10.51 | feutetejsd | ah |
17:11.01 | Fredjikrang | url for engadget? |
17:11.06 | bjhomer | http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/07/live-from-apples-summer-mac-product-press-conference/ |
17:11.23 | Fredjikrang | sweet |
17:11.28 | bjhomer | good pics there |
17:11.33 | wps | wow… 1 TB in an iMac |
17:11.39 | Fredjikrang | still has a chin |
17:11.55 | wps | yeah, that'd've been nice if they could have dumped the chin |
17:12.08 | wps | wow… even thinner |
17:12.12 | Fredjikrang | interesting that the back is black |
17:12.17 | wps | yeah, very |
17:12.20 | bjhomer | Only $1199 for a 17" |
17:12.22 | bjhomer | not bad |
17:13.04 | ryoujou | so up by $200 |
17:13.16 | Fredjikrang | I think the media keys are like play, pause, stuff like that. |
17:13.16 | bjhomer | is it really up? |
17:13.23 | bjhomer | did they say there are media keys? |
17:13.24 | Fredjikrang | yup |
17:13.26 | ryoujou | is slashphone down? |
17:13.35 | wps | I still think media keys are stupid |
17:13.38 | wps | just adds clutter |
17:13.45 | Fredjikrang | no, it isn't |
17:13.50 | Fredjikrang | down |
17:13.54 | ryoujou | it stopped loading for me.. :( |
17:14.12 | ryoujou | oh, wait, no 17 inch? |
17:14.20 | Fredjikrang | hold on, on gizmodo, the 20" is 1199 |
17:14.25 | Fredjikrang | they don't show a 17" |
17:14.33 | bjhomer | what? |
17:14.43 | ryoujou | yeah, so its just a lower spec 20 inch |
17:14.50 | ryoujou | available today |
17:15.02 | Fredjikrang | the keyboard doesn't look cluttered. |
17:15.02 | bjhomer | engadget says "Well, today we're replacing the 24-inch, lowering price by $200, 20-inch at same $1499. replacing 17-inch with $1199 model." |
17:15.06 | Fredjikrang | Still pretty tight. |
17:15.09 | wps | my iPod just had a hearattack |
17:15.14 | wps | he's going to be alright though |
17:15.31 | ryoujou | haha |
17:15.44 | Fredjikrang | software now! |
17:16.14 | Fredjikrang | lol |
17:16.17 | Fredjikrang | I don't know if I like the black frame on the iMac. |
17:16.31 | whyisjake | Looks a lot like an iPhone... |
17:16.33 | ryoujou | grr! nothing will loard for me |
17:16.38 | ryoujou | -r |
17:17.02 | bjhomer | I can't get slashphone, but engadget still comes |
17:17.09 | bjhomer | ah |
17:17.10 | bjhomer | nm |
17:17.11 | bjhomer | it came |
17:17.11 | ryoujou | engadget seems to be slow |
17:17.21 | bjhomer | yeah it does |
17:17.25 | ryoujou | gizmodo dead for me too.. |
17:17.25 | ryoujou | sigh |
17:17.51 | Fredjikrang | ooo, new ilife! |
17:17.56 | Fredjikrang | (macobserver) |
17:18.24 | Fredjikrang | slashphone is swamped |
17:18.48 | whyisjake | new iLife app... |
17:18.52 | whyisjake | Intriguing... |
17:19.20 | ryoujou | macobserver wont load either |
17:19.59 | ryoujou | engadget has pics of the specs |
17:20.14 | bjhomer | yeah |
17:20.20 | bjhomer | I saw that |
17:20.35 | bjhomer | Interesting |
17:20.38 | Fredjikrang | hmm, replaceing an app in iLife |
17:20.38 | bjhomer | I wonder what ilife app will be replaced |
17:20.43 | wps | indeed |
17:20.43 | bjhomer | garageband, perhaps? |
17:20.45 | Fredjikrang | hmm |
17:20.45 | wps | I don't like the black back |
17:20.49 | wps | feels too Dell-ish |
17:20.55 | Fredjikrang | I think iDVD |
17:21.05 | bjhomer | Actually, you're probably right. |
17:21.30 | ryoujou | pic of box on engadget.. too blurry to see |
17:21.48 | bjhomer | iphoto |
17:21.52 | bjhomer | refresh engadget |
17:22.45 | Fredjikrang | everything is swamped! |
17:23.00 | whyisjake | iPhoto events... |
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17:23.11 | whyisjake | <PROTECTED> |
17:23.13 | whyisjake | 10:19AM: Sounds like a fancy way to organize albums, doesn't it? |
17:23.21 | Fredjikrang | yeah |
17:23.23 | ryoujou | could be useful |
17:23.27 | Fredjikrang | I agree |
17:23.35 | ryoujou | i have too many tags as it is |
17:24.43 | Fredjikrang | I hate that you can't add comments to a group of photos. Most annoying thing ever. |
17:24.51 | ArchAngelNix | I don't really care much about iLife, I want iWork! |
17:24.53 | wps | what Apple really needs is a media browser |
17:25.00 | ArchAngelNix | No kidding |
17:25.04 | wps | there is really no good way to manage your videos |
17:25.05 | ArchAngelNix | About the media browswer |
17:25.09 | ryoujou | agreed |
17:25.10 | wps | iPhoto for videos |
17:25.16 | Fredjikrang | eh, all I use from iLife and iWork is iPhoto. |
17:25.26 | Fredjikrang | wps, that is iTunes |
17:25.29 | Fredjikrang | ;) |
17:25.35 | wps | or just iMedia that does it all (photos/music/videos) |
17:25.49 | bjhomer | Also, with the new Quick Look thing in leopard, things should get a little eaiser. |
17:25.51 | ArchAngelNix | iTunes is suppose to do it, but I don't like how it does it for non-iTunes downloaded stuff. |
17:26.04 | bjhomer | It's still not a full media browser with meta-tags and stuff.. |
17:26.25 | Fredjikrang | hide photos feature? |
17:26.30 | Fredjikrang | That is helpful? |
17:26.33 | ArchAngelNix | True. And if you record video on your digital camera, then it is stuck in iPhoto, and iTunes has no idea it is there. |
17:27.29 | ArchAngelNix | What sources are people following? Is there an IRC channel following it? I am on Engadgets site. |
17:28.04 | Fredjikrang | Engadget, Gizmodo, slashphone (it is swamped right now), MacNN, Macworld, Stuff, etc. |
17:28.56 | Fredjikrang | hmm, ability to copy/paste edits on photos, that is cool. |
17:29.39 | Fredjikrang | and a skimming feature? I don't quite understand the description of that. |
17:29.56 | ArchAngelNix | I wonder if iPhoto is taking a more Aperture way of dealing with images, the base image with a series of filters applied, not an actual modification of the image. |
17:30.00 | wps | most of these are features that are in Aperture that they are bringing over to the consumer app |
17:31.27 | Fredjikrang | I'm fine with that. |
17:31.29 | Fredjikrang | :D |
17:31.31 | wps | I will be very sad if this all isn't shipping today |
17:31.39 | wps | that is (has been) one of Apple's greatest strengths |
17:31.49 | Fredjikrang | ooo, .mac now! |
17:31.56 | bjhomer | .mac needs help. :) |
17:32.10 | Fredjikrang | woah now, what happened to the rest of iLife?!? |
17:32.22 | ArchAngelNix | Not that cool I guess. |
17:32.23 | bjhomer | *whoa |
17:32.28 | bjhomer | :) |
17:32.32 | Fredjikrang | oh, iPhoto .mac stuff |
17:32.34 | Fredjikrang | got it. |
17:33.17 | ryoujou | imacs are shipping today.. we shall see about ilife |
17:33.58 | Fredjikrang | macobserver is updating the fastest right now I think |
17:34.05 | Fredjikrang | http://live.macobserver.com/article/2007/08/apple_event.shtml |
17:34.23 | ryoujou | that wont load for me either... |
17:34.24 | Fredjikrang | still not very often |
17:34.27 | Fredjikrang | lol |
17:34.32 | ryoujou | sigh |
17:34.40 | ryoujou | ooh, ooh, got it! |
17:35.20 | ArchAngelNix | I found Engadgets site is handling the load the best. It is just annoying that I have refresh then scroll down to get the latest details. |
17:35.29 | ryoujou | yeah, i hate that |
17:35.30 | Fredjikrang | yeah |
17:35.59 | ArchAngelNix | The email posting is pretty cool |
17:36.20 | Fredjikrang | the iPhone integration is cool |
17:37.09 | ryoujou | yeah, if i only could afford one.. :( |
17:37.10 | Fredjikrang | coverflow online. I think Apple is really in love with coverflow! |
17:37.10 | ArchAngelNix | I just wish .Mac would be an actual webhosting service, that will allow me to point my domain to it. I would pay $99 /yr for .Mac if it was a moderately competitive hosting solution. |
17:38.44 | bjhomer | A tip for engadget: before you refresh, find a phrase at the bottom of the page. Then when you refresh, search for that phrase. You'll jump to the bottom without having to do page down a bunch |
17:39.16 | ryoujou | hah, thanks bj... silly me |
17:39.21 | bjhomer | :) |
17:40.33 | Fredjikrang | hmm, new iMovie |
17:40.43 | Fredjikrang | I guess that is the one that is being replaced? |
17:41.05 | bjhomer | oh interesting. |
17:41.09 | bjhomer | (Come on, engadget... |
17:41.10 | bjhomer | ) |
17:42.26 | bjhomer | more pics on engadget |
17:42.34 | Fredjikrang | "One library for all your video." |
17:42.47 | ArchAngelNix | I wonder what that means? |
17:43.00 | bjhomer | I was just thinking the same thing. |
17:43.01 | Fredjikrang | more like iPhoto I would guess |
17:43.06 | ryoujou | maybe itunes video will be there? that makes more sense than it does now... |
17:43.14 | ryoujou | but i guess then it would have to be free... nm |
17:44.39 | Fredjikrang | scub video thumbnails, nice! |
17:44.43 | Fredjikrang | *scrub |
17:45.10 | Fredjikrang | and select sections of a video from the thumbnail, then drag and drop ity |
17:45.23 | Fredjikrang | and publish directly to YouTube! |
17:45.29 | Fredjikrang | that is interesting |
17:45.44 | bjhomer | easy to make ipod video too |
17:45.58 | ryoujou | shares with itunes.. interesting |
17:48.00 | ryoujou | possible excel competitor? http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/surprise/iwork08-on-steves-dock-possibly-adds-excel-competitor-286919.php |
17:50.07 | ArchAngelNix | Yeah!!!! |
17:56.06 | ArchAngelNix | This is why I wouldn't mind Apple being a monopoly: |
17:56.11 | ArchAngelNix | Somebody asked me, you guys are so far ahead of everyone else, why are you obsoleting your own products? I's because we really care about this stuff. To be able to put movies and libraries out there for everyone to enjoy, it's just great. We think more wonderful movies will be made and shared. |
17:56.37 | Fredjikrang | lol |
17:56.44 | Fredjikrang | New iWeb |
17:56.48 | wps | obsoleting their own products is one of Apple's greatest strengths |
17:57.11 | ArchAngelNix | Okay the last sentence doesn't apply generally, but that is the essence of Apple, we make great products, even though we don't have to keep pushing the bar higher. |
17:57.47 | Fredjikrang | "Also, personal domain support and theme switching, so you're not locked into one theme." for iWeb |
17:57.50 | Fredjikrang | huh? |
17:58.07 | Fredjikrang | is there finally the option to ftp to another domain? |
17:58.34 | Fredjikrang | wow, he is flying now |
17:59.03 | ArchAngelNix | Hmm... I hope .Mac has personal domain support. |
18:00.09 | Fredjikrang | doesn't sound like it |
18:00.27 | Fredjikrang | he said that you could point it to your .mac site as well, so, yeah |
18:00.45 | Fredjikrang | maybe they are trying to make .mac into content hosting instead of web hosting? |
18:01.05 | Fredjikrang | iLife available today! |
18:01.11 | Fredjikrang | same price! |
18:01.17 | wps | good work, Apple |
18:01.22 | ryoujou | nice |
18:01.34 | ArchAngelNix | Did he mention any tie-ins with Leopard? |
18:01.47 | Fredjikrang | nope |
18:01.52 | Fredjikrang | not that I have seen |
18:02.55 | Fredjikrang | 10GB of .mac storage |
18:03.05 | wps | wow |
18:03.08 | wps | Apple has been busy |
18:03.13 | wps | these are some real updates |
18:03.15 | wps | not just fluf |
18:03.21 | ArchAngelNix | No kidding |
18:03.22 | Fredjikrang | no kidding |
18:03.23 | wps | s/fluf/fluff/ |
18:03.23 | Fredjikrang | lol |
18:03.44 | Fredjikrang | nice trick wps |
18:03.56 | wps | jbot is my slave |
18:04.01 | ryoujou | my sister is friends with a guy who is in charge of one of the software departments.. she says he has been staying at work until 10 or 11 every night lately |
18:04.10 | Fredjikrang | sounds like no news on iWork? |
18:04.19 | Fredjikrang | lol wps |
18:04.34 | wps | if there isn't, there will be quite a rumble across the rumor-sphere about that icon in Steve's dock |
18:04.55 | Fredjikrang | lol |
18:05.34 | Fredjikrang | nvm, new iWork! |
18:05.41 | wps | awesome |
18:05.51 | Fredjikrang | animated text effects? |
18:05.53 | Fredjikrang | Huh? |
18:06.09 | Fredjikrang | oh, keynote |
18:06.41 | Fredjikrang | got it. I thought he started with Pages! I was very confused about why someone would want animated text in a document! |
18:06.44 | bjhomer | heh. |
18:06.52 | ArchAngelNix | Ha, ha, ha... |
18:06.57 | bjhomer | Perhaps in a paperless world... |
18:07.18 | Fredjikrang | lol, yeah |
18:07.29 | bjhomer | better engadget trick: just search for the phrase "Permalink" |
18:07.32 | ArchAngelNix | A to B animation is that selecting a start and an end and Keynote animating it's path? |
18:07.38 | bjhomer | I think so |
18:07.54 | ArchAngelNix | That is one thing I wanted in Keynote |
18:07.56 | ArchAngelNix | ! |
18:07.59 | ArchAngelNix | Yay! |
18:08.07 | ryoujou | too bad engadget has nothing! |
18:08.11 | ryoujou | on iwork |
18:08.28 | ryoujou | there is it |
18:08.33 | ryoujou | switch those |
18:08.50 | Fredjikrang | lol |
18:09.23 | ArchAngelNix | Track Changes!!!11 |
18:09.26 | ArchAngelNix | Yay!!! |
18:09.47 | ArchAngelNix | Apple must have listened to my many feedback requests! |
18:09.53 | ryoujou | haha |
18:09.53 | Fredjikrang | modes in pages, yay! |
18:09.59 | bjhomer | I wonder how many people actually use iWork... I've nere actually seen it in production. |
18:10.03 | bjhomer | *never |
18:10.09 | bjhomer | or, as wps says: |
18:10.11 | Fredjikrang | Numbers! |
18:10.15 | bjhomer | s/nere/never |
18:10.15 | Fredjikrang | Huttah! |
18:10.19 | ryoujou | lets freaking ditch office... now that its delayed? no more need |
18:10.20 | wps | wow… finally |
18:10.21 | Fredjikrang | lol |
18:13.18 | Fredjikrang | not working for you, eh bj? :D |
18:14.05 | Fredjikrang | iWork available today! |
18:14.06 | bjhomer | it appears not. |
18:14.08 | Fredjikrang | same price |
18:14.57 | Fredjikrang | ilife demo on apple's site |
18:15.16 | ryoujou | does that mean downloadable or just like quicktime videos? |
18:15.39 | Fredjikrang | lol, the macobserver guy is posting from his iPhone |
18:16.21 | ryoujou | q&z |
18:16.21 | Fredjikrang | probably just videos |
18:16.25 | ryoujou | -z +a |
18:16.44 | Fredjikrang | lol |
18:17.19 | ArchAngelNix | Nice |
18:18.08 | ArchAngelNix | If I didn't use SVN all the time I wouldn't have gotten the -z +a thing |
18:20.04 | bjhomer | refreshing mac mini today |
18:20.09 | Fredjikrang | lol, Steve: "We've got a phenomenal customer base, they show their friends and their friends get jealous." |
18:20.15 | wps | holy crap |
18:20.21 | wps | new Mac Mini's too?!?!? |
18:20.26 | bjhomer | seems so |
18:20.29 | Fredjikrang | nice |
18:20.37 | wps | today's events were more significantly than MacWorld |
18:20.38 | Fredjikrang | just a speed bump though |
18:20.43 | Fredjikrang | I agree wps |
18:20.51 | wps | significantly more significant |
18:25.42 | Fredjikrang | news about the apple TV soon? |
18:26.11 | ryoujou | who thinks we will see one last thing? |
18:26.25 | Fredjikrang | not me |
18:26.27 | wps | I love Christmas |
18:26.30 | Fredjikrang | lol |
18:26.37 | ryoujou | we have seen quite a bit |
18:26.39 | wps | it's so nice that Apple brought it early |
18:26.44 | ryoujou | agreed |
18:26.54 | ryoujou | i think i might go buy iwork very soon |
18:27.01 | bjhomer | Yeah? |
18:27.14 | bjhomer | You'll have to show me sometime if you do |
18:27.28 | ryoujou | get rid of every last piece of microsoft software on my mac |
18:27.35 | bjhomer | heh |
18:27.57 | bjhomer | you know, ryan, you'll probably never speak to me again if I do a microsoft internship next year. |
18:28.18 | bjhomer | Which thing I have considered. (I'd place it right behind the Apple internship) |
18:28.28 | ryoujou | haha |
18:28.36 | Fredjikrang | mutlitouch mac a reseach project for now |
18:28.39 | ryoujou | i would love an apple internship myself |
18:29.02 | ryoujou | so i would probably not speak to you if you got that too |
18:29.20 | bjhomer | hah |
18:29.24 | bjhomer | looks like I'm in trouble. |
18:30.16 | Fredjikrang | lol |
18:30.27 | Fredjikrang | I'll still talk to you either way bj |
18:31.10 | bjhomer | :) Oh good. I won't be left friendless, at least. |
18:31.45 | bjhomer | out of curiosity, what IRC clients are you guys using? |
18:31.45 | Fredjikrang | :D |
18:31.52 | Fredjikrang | colloquy |
18:32.10 | Fredjikrang | I used iRC on my old lappy though, it was easier on the proc |
18:32.15 | bjhomer | ah. |
18:32.22 | bjhomer | I really like colloquy |
18:32.36 | bjhomer | and the "Novel" view makes me laugh |
18:32.51 | bjhomer | I'm at work on a linux box, though, so I'm actually using Pidgin. |
18:33.08 | bjhomer | Ryan, are you on colloquy too? |
18:34.15 | bjhomer | Looks like he's gone. Well, I'm off to lunch. |
18:34.18 | bjhomer | See ya'll |
18:34.43 | Fredjikrang | the end |
18:34.51 | Fredjikrang | see yah! I want some pizza! |
18:41.20 | ryoujou | sounds good to me |
18:41.29 | ryoujou | see ya'll |
19:02.43 | feutetejsd | does anyone have any idea why they left the number pad off of the wireless keyboard? |
19:04.31 | ArchAngelNix | So the wired keyboard has the number pad? |
19:04.38 | feutetejsd | yeah |
19:04.56 | feutetejsd | it's a 110+ key, and the wireless looks like they lifted it from a laptop |