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| 21:13.23 | feutetejsd | hey wps, you there? | 
| 21:14.38 | wps | indeed | 
| 21:19.40 | feutetejsd | i tried to open a private chat...did you see it? | 
| 21:24.18 | wps | nope | 
| 21:27.23 | feutetejsd | weird | 
| 21:27.39 | feutetejsd | i got your email about that job opening at Doba, and i might have a friend who is interested....do you have any info about pay/benefits? | 
| 21:30.04 | feutetejsd | brb, then we'll talk | 
| 21:32.01 | wps | sure | 
| 21:32.21 | wps | description: http://www.doba.com/company/careers/career/000019.html | 
| 21:32.31 | wps | benefits: http://www.doba.com/company/careers/benefits.html | 
| 21:32.49 | feutetejsd | cool. thanks man! | 
| 21:32.54 | feutetejsd | do you work for them? | 
| 21:32.59 | wps | yup | 
| 21:33.09 | feutetejsd | cool | 
| 21:33.13 | feutetejsd | brb for reals now | 
| 21:46.48 | feutetejsd | back | 
| 21:48.19 | feutetejsd | what kind of company is doba? | 
| 22:00.09 | wps | as in atmostphere or what we actually do? | 
| 22:07.19 | feutetejsd | what you dfo | 
| 22:07.22 | feutetejsd | -f | 
| 22:07.26 | feutetejsd | both, i guess | 
| 22:07.46 | wps | product sourcing | 
| 22:07.55 | wps | we connect small businesses with products to sell | 
| 22:08.37 | feutetejsd | i see | 
| 22:08.40 | wps | entrepreneurs (generally web stores and eBay, but some brick-and-mortor) with distributors | 
| 22:08.52 | wps | the drop shipping industry | 
| 22:08.58 | feutetejsd | ah | 
| 22:09.01 | wps | we don't do drop shipping though, we help people to do it | 
| 22:09.04 | wps | we are a middle man | 
| 22:09.34 | feutetejsd | i've seen several billboards along I-15...I guess business is good? | 
| 22:09.35 | wps | we have created a large web application that allows people to maintain virtual inventories and warehouses | 
| 22:09.41 | wps | yes, those are ours | 
| 22:09.45 | wps | yes, business is very good | 
| 22:09.48 | feutetejsd | cool | 
| 22:10.16 | wps | the biggest hurdle for starting a business is overhead and inventory, so eliminate both | 
| 22:11.05 | wps | s/so/we | 
| 22:11.26 | feutetejsd | very nice | 
| 22:12.25 | wps | you think he'll be interested? | 
| 22:13.03 | feutetejsd | possibly....he has a lot of experience in design, although it's more in print than interactive/web | 
| 22:13.23 | wps | that's fine | 
| 22:13.58 | wps | if he has the skills then web specifics can be taught | 
| 22:14.16 | feutetejsd | he is actually learning a bit about the web already...slowly but surely | 
| 22:14.18 | wps | we do print, dimensional, environmental, and identity work too | 
| 22:14.20 | feutetejsd | I'm working on him | 
| 22:15.17 | feutetejsd | a lot of his experience is in corporate branding on many fronts | 
| 22:18.03 | wps | well, I'd love to meet him and see his work | 
| 22:19.12 | feutetejsd | he's currently employed but not doing as much design as he'd like...I know salary is a big deal for him. Do you know anything about the salary range? the page you linked me to was just benefits | 
| 22:19.47 | feutetejsd | or, is it dependent on qualifications, etc? | 
| 22:34.00 | wps | dependent a little | 
| 22:34.08 | wps | probably not more than $40,000 | 
| 22:34.16 | wps | we're looking for a designer, not a senior design | 
| 22:34.30 | wps | s/design/designer | 
| 22:34.33 | feutetejsd | ah....he's more looking for senior deisgner type position | 
| 22:35.22 | wps | if he's got the stuff though, we it might be an option | 
| 22:35.52 | feutetejsd | ok, I'll let him know | 
| 22:35.54 | feutetejsd | thanks man |