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| 14:56.34 | drewbono | Mornin' all. |
| 14:57.18 | drewbono | So, what does everyone think about Adobe/Macromedia? |
| 14:57.26 | drewbono | I figured wps would have an opinion. :-) |
| 14:57.33 | wps | :) |
| 14:57.53 | wps | first, I was surprised |
| 14:57.57 | wps | didn't see that one coming at all |
| 14:59.01 | wps | The companies have very little overlap (DreamWeaver and GoLive is pretty much it), so in regards to a business move, it seems very wise. This will make them even stronger to fight against Microsoft. |
| 14:59.41 | wps | This will be a very big company now |
| 14:59.55 | wps | overall, I think that it will be a positive thing |
| 15:00.42 | wps | I generally, trust Adobe. They seem to be smart and to make good decisions generally. |
| 15:01.28 | drewbono | I'm a little nervous about it. |
| 15:01.41 | drewbono | Adobe and Apple only get along right now because they absolutely have to. |
| 15:02.10 | drewbono | I don't think Adobe has any love for Apple. |
| 15:02.18 | wps | oh... wait... I didn't think about Macromedia' |
| 15:02.21 | wps | oops |
| 15:03.10 | drewbono | What do you mean? |
| 15:03.56 | wps | oh, wait, I didn't think about Macromedia's other products such as Freehand and Fireworks |
| 15:04.05 | wps | (photoshop and illustrator style apps) |
| 15:04.08 | drewbono | Yeah. |
| 15:04.14 | wps | they are mush weaker though |
| 15:04.30 | drewbono | That's true. |
| 15:04.34 | wps | so I guess it will allow them to have pro apps and average user apps |
| 15:04.44 | drewbono | I'd just hate to see Adobe start turning into a M$ part II. |
| 15:05.04 | wps | yes, that is the only thing that I see as a downside... how large the company now is |
| 15:05.08 | drewbono | On the plus side, maybe the Mac version of Flash will actually be on par with the PC version. |
| 15:05.40 | wps | positive -> hopefully we will get better products, more standards support, and more linux support |
| 15:05.49 | drewbono | Yeah. |
| 15:06.04 | drewbono | So did you see that Apple is using Flash on its website for what I think is the first time? |
| 15:06.12 | wps | negative -> huge company, lots of power, exects making decisions that don't look long term or aren't smart |
| 15:06.21 | wps | really? where? |
| 15:06.32 | drewbono | All over the pro apps pages |
| 15:06.36 | feutetejsd | I don't know about it...I prefer fireworks over photoshop (mostly because I haven't used photoshop much), and I know that they fill similar niches, but not the same, but even so, I'd hate to see fireworks go away.... |
| 15:06.44 | drewbono | http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio |
| 15:07.19 | drewbono | Yeah, fireworks definitely has a fan base. |
| 15:08.02 | drewbono | And since no one's said it yet this morning....WHERE IS THE NEW HARDWARE?! |
| 15:08.58 | feutetejsd | yeah, that too |
| 15:10.22 | wps | were we expecting new hardware at NAB? |
| 15:10.35 | wps | interesting... they are using flash |
| 15:11.14 | wps | is that really the first time Apple has used Flash? |
| 15:11.18 | drewbono | Last year they made software announcements at NAB on Sunday and released new hardware on Monday. |
| 15:11.28 | drewbono | They've used it in other, smaller sections. |
| 15:11.37 | drewbono | Like http://www.apple.com/students |
| 15:12.00 | drewbono | But I've NEVER seen it on a "main" page. |
| 15:12.16 | drewbono | When they need animation, they try to use Quicktime. |
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| 20:14.12 | feutetejsd | man, things are getting exciting in the MUG mailing list |
| 20:14.14 | feutetejsd | :D |
| 20:20.29 | feutetejsd | we seem to have strayed from the Adobe acquires Macromedia subject..... |
| 20:20.45 | wps | for sure |
| 20:21.24 | wps | drewbono's going to be sad he missed this one |
| 20:21.36 | wps | speaking of drewbono… |
| 20:21.37 | feutetejsd | hehe |
| 20:21.53 | feutetejsd | well, he can read through the backlog of emails |
| 20:22.01 | wps | he had done so much for the group |
| 20:22.22 | feutetejsd | had? |
| 20:22.27 | wps | has |
| 20:22.33 | wps | (he's not dead :) ) |
| 20:22.37 | feutetejsd | *whew* |
| 20:22.37 | macnewbold | okay, now you've got me curious... does mug have email archives somewhere that i can go take a look at this thread? |
| 20:22.42 | macnewbold | ~mourn drewbono |
| 20:22.44 | jbot | ACTION lights some candles for drewbono |
| 20:22.51 | wps | ha ha ha |
| 20:23.24 | wps | ~BYU MUG mailing list archives |
| 20:23.37 | wps | jbot, BYU MUG's mailing list archives are http://mac.byu.edu/pipermail/byumug-discuss/ |
| 20:23.38 | jbot | wps: okay |
| 20:23.48 | wps | ~BYU MUG's mailing list archives |
| 20:23.49 | jbot | byu mug's mailing list archives are http://mac.byu.edu/pipermail/byumug-discuss/ |
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