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15:12.00 | Ch0lly | quiet in here. I guess kgilmer is the life of the party? |
15:12.30 | jconnolly | wasn't that always the case? |
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15:50.13 | grund | jconnolly: I created RI 1478 for that wireless issue |
15:53.58 | jconnolly | cool i'll look |
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16:20.26 | akweon | jconnolly, have you had a problem where SDK 2.0 tells you BUG Simulator is running when it's not? i tried restarting eclipse.. doesn't help |
16:21.13 | jconnolly | akweon: yes, bcruskie i think has a RI for it |
16:21.20 | jconnolly | akweon: I think he had to ps aux | grep java |
16:21.26 | jconnolly | then kill the pid corresponding to the BS |
16:21.33 | akweon | oic.. that sucks |
16:21.36 | akweon | ok cool. thanks for the info |
16:21.59 | grund | jconnolly: when I wget from your machine it runs fine, from dauber it chokes, then nothing works again |
16:22.16 | jconnolly | wtf |
16:22.19 | jconnolly | let me try from dauber |
16:22.25 | grund | that's what I said |
16:23.53 | grund | nope, hung up from yours. if your bug isn't doing it then meh |
16:25.46 | jconnolly | trying your card |
16:27.38 | jconnolly | grund|lunch: also how were you connecting to Buglabs AE? |
16:27.47 | jconnolly | I'm using straightup wpa_supplicant/dhclient |
16:27.49 | jconnolly | no NM |
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16:53.48 | hrw|gone | haveahennessy: happy birthday! |
16:54.07 | hrw|gone | jconnolly: alive? |
17:00.00 | CIA-48 | Bug Labs: sschmidt * r12107 /bug/trunk/com.buglabs.build.oe/meta-bug/classes/bug-image.bbclass: com.buglabs.build.oe: bug-image: Add band aid for RI1413 |
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17:18.41 | stefan_schmidt | hi all |
17:19.46 | jconnolly | hi hrw|gone |
17:21.12 | hrw|gone | jconnolly: I will be back in ~2h and then we can talk more about Linaro |
17:21.16 | jconnolly | great hrw|gone |
17:21.21 | jconnolly | haveahennessy is interested too |
17:21.36 | hrw|gone | jconnolly: short ver now: 2.6.35 kernel is base for us |
17:21.53 | hrw|gone | and we provide gcc 4.4.4 and 4.5.1 |
17:22.26 | stefan_schmidt | hrw|gone: you are not allowed to get people away from OE. ;) |
17:22.28 | jconnolly | good to know, we're trying to decide next steps for kernel move, android and linaro are the major projects we would like to try to be compatible with, or have least amount of work to move to |
17:22.29 | stefan_schmidt | hrw|gone: hi :) |
17:22.32 | jconnolly | ;D |
17:22.46 | hrw|gone | work is on devtools too |
17:23.09 | hrw|gone | jconnolly: we plan to have android support in next few months |
17:23.21 | jconnolly | hrw|gone: saw wiki about it too |
17:23.33 | jconnolly | https://wiki.linaro.org/AndroidStrategyDraft |
17:23.44 | hrw|gone | stefan_schmidt: you can add linaro gcc/kernel into OE |
17:24.00 | hrw|gone | stefan_schmidt: would be great thing |
17:24.17 | jconnolly | funny googling for linaro openembedded turns up hrw|gone |
17:24.24 | hrw|gone | :) |
17:24.26 | stefan_schmidt | hrw|gone: heh, I feared you would say that :) |
17:24.46 | stefan_schmidt | hrw|gone: might be interesting in the future. |
17:24.48 | hrw|gone | stefan_schmidt: we want projects to use our work |
17:24.54 | jconnolly | we want to use your work |
17:24.58 | stefan_schmidt | hrw|gone: I follow linaro at least a bit |
17:24.58 | jconnolly | so much feedback and activity |
17:25.16 | hrw|gone | stefan_schmidt: nokia is working on linaro stuff in meego afaik |
17:25.28 | stefan_schmidt | needs to think if he wants to add one more mailling list |
17:25.35 | stefan_schmidt | hrw|gone: nice |
17:25.42 | hrw|gone | bb in ~2h |
17:25.49 | jconnolly | added networkmanager-dev mailing list... why not linaro too |
17:25.54 | jconnolly | see you later hrw|gone |
17:25.57 | hrw|gone | need to bath daughter and get her sleep |
17:26.17 | hrw|gone | jconnolly: linaro lists not list :) |
17:26.43 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
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17:37.46 | zobbo | I won a bug earlier this year and didn't have chance to play with it much. Last weekend I got it out of the box and found out it had a wireless connection even though the card inside the box says it's a Hiro P. All fine. I was playing around with the dash connection (through the web browser). However I came to do a reboot and now the dash doesn't appear as something I can run. Seems to have vanished. Also the LCD is just stuck on "starting rmnologin" |
17:38.12 | zobbo | now I thought I'd reinstall the root file system and start again (don't have a micro sd card reader, just ordered one) so was just going to reinstall what I have |
17:38.23 | zobbo | but 'fdisk -l' doesn't seem to show me anything ! |
17:38.32 | haveahennessy | hrw|gone thanks (-: |
17:38.34 | jconnolly | zobbo: any chance you have the the serial connector? |
17:38.40 | zobbo | not the sd card or the internal storage |
17:38.55 | CIA-48 | Bug Labs: jconnolly * r12108 /bug/branches/accenture/com.buglabs.build.oe/meta-bug/classes/bug-image.bbclass: com.buglabs.build.oe: accenture branch, sync vm.min_free_kbytes from trunk |
17:38.56 | zobbo | jconnolly, um ... I have a usb connector for it ? |
17:39.07 | jconnolly | fdisk -l doesn't show you anything where? |
17:39.14 | jconnolly | i mean where are you running fdisk -l? |
17:39.19 | zobbo | logged into the bug. it's on the wireless network and I'm ssh'd in |
17:39.45 | jconnolly | ah, concierge didn't start then |
17:39.50 | zobbo | aha |
17:39.52 | jconnolly | zobbo: cat /var/log/concierge.log, then send to pastebin |
17:40.03 | jconnolly | http://pastebin.com/ |
17:40.51 | jconnolly | i bet it's got some exceptions in there |
17:40.54 | jconnolly | or a segfault |
17:41.15 | zobbo | okies, bear with me - thanks for this |
17:41.59 | zobbo | rebooting it, seemed to have hung |
17:42.58 | jconnolly | ok, and no prob zobbo |
17:46.06 | zobbo | jconnolly, at ch.ethz.iks.concierge.framework.Framework$SystemBundle.access$0(Unknown Source) |
17:46.07 | zobbo | at ch.ethz.iks.concierge.framework.Framework.startup(Unknown Source) |
17:46.07 | zobbo | at ch.ethz.iks.concierge.framework.Framework.main(Unknown Source) |
17:46.07 | zobbo | at sun.misc.CVM.runMain(Unknown Source) |
17:46.07 | zobbo | STARTING file:./com.buglabs.bug.jni.audio.jar |
17:46.07 | zobbo | STARTING file:./com.buglabs.bug.jni.motion.jar |
17:46.09 | zobbo | STARTING file:./com.buglabs.bug.jni.accelerometer.jar |
17:46.11 | zobbo | STARTING file:./com.buglabs.bug.jni.basedisplay.jar |
17:46.13 | zobbo | STARTING file:./com.buglabs.bug.jni.gps.jar |
17:46.15 | zobbo | STARTING file:./com.buglabs.bug.jni.camera.jar |
17:46.17 | zobbo | STARTING file:./com.buglabs.bug.jni.bugbeep.jar |
17:46.19 | zobbo | STARTING file:./com.buglabs.bug.jni.lcd.jar |
17:46.23 | zobbo | STARTING file:./com.buglabs.bug.jni.vonhippel.jar |
17:46.25 | zobbo | STARTING file:./com.buglabs.bug.audio.common.jar |
17:46.27 | zobbo | STARTING file:./com.buglabs.bug.jni.bugbee.jar |
17:46.27 | jconnolly | zobbo: pastebin please ;D the whole thing. cat /var/log/felix.log |
17:46.29 | zobbo | STARTING file:./edu.oswego.cs.dl.util.concurrent.jar |
17:46.31 | zobbo | STARTING file:./com.buglabs.bug.jni.bluetooth.jar |
17:46.33 | zobbo | STARTING file:./com.buglabs.bug.jni.sensor.jar |
17:46.35 | zobbo | STARTING file:./com.buglabs.bug.jni.gsm.jar |
17:46.37 | zobbo | STARTING file:./net.contentobjects.jnotify.jar |
17:46.39 | zobbo | STARTING file:./com.buglabs.bug.module.gps.jar |
17:46.41 | zobbo | org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Unsatisfied import org.osgi.util.tracker for bundle Bundle [4]: file:./com.buglabs.common.jar |
17:46.44 | zobbo | at ch.ethz.iks.concierge.framework.BundleClassLoader.resolveBundle(Unknown Source) |
17:46.46 | zobbo | at ch.ethz.iks.concierge.framework.Framework.getImport(Unknown Source) |
17:46.48 | zobbo | at ch.ethz.iks.concierge.framework.BundleClassLoader.resolveBundle(Unknown Source) |
17:46.50 | zobbo | at ch.ethz.iks.concierge.framework.BundleImpl.startBundle(Unknown Source) |
17:46.54 | zobbo | at ch.ethz.iks.concierge.framework.Framework$SystemBundle.setLevel(Unknown Source) |
17:46.56 | zobbo | at ch.ethz.iks.concierge.framework.Framework$SystemBundle.access$0(Unknown Source) |
17:46.58 | zobbo | at ch.ethz.iks.concierge.framework.Framework.startup(Unknown Source) |
17:47.00 | zobbo | at ch.ethz.iks.concierge.framework.Framework.main(Unknown Source) |
17:47.02 | zobbo | at sun.misc.CVM.runMain(Unknown Source) |
17:47.04 | zobbo | java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Unsatisfied import com.buglabs.module |
17:47.06 | zobbo | at ch.ethz.iks.concierge.framework.BundleClassLoader.resolveBundle(Unknown Source) |
17:47.08 | zobbo | at ch.ethz. |
17:47.10 | zobbo | shit |
17:47.12 | zobbo | sorry |
17:47.14 | zobbo | aaagh |
17:47.15 | jconnolly | no worries, happens ;D |
17:47.16 | zobbo | http://pastebin.com/juyFgQUj |
17:47.18 | zobbo | sorry everyone |
17:47.18 | jconnolly | cool |
17:47.28 | zobbo | aye, copied the url (I thought) but the traceback was in the clipboard still |
17:47.49 | jconnolly | zobbo: if you've got the part above, the origin of the stacktrace that's cut off at the top, that'd be most helpful |
17:48.02 | jconnolly | looks like com.buglabs.common isn't starting right, but I'd like to know why |
17:49.55 | zobbo | jconnolly, http://pastebin.com/1RaQRWt4 |
17:49.57 | zobbo | that bit ? |
17:50.13 | jconnolly | hmm yes that's a problem |
17:50.22 | jconnolly | can you ls -haltr /usr/share/java/service-tracker.jar ? |
17:51.03 | jconnolly | zobbo: if it's indeed not there, then from the command line: |
17:51.14 | jconnolly | wget http://repo.buglabs.net/legacy/all/service-tracker_1.0+svnr220-r2_all.ipk |
17:51.27 | jconnolly | ipkg install service-tracker_1.0+svnr220-r2_all.ipk --force-overwrite --force-depends |
17:51.36 | zobbo | ok, sec, wireless dropped, just trying to get it up again |
17:58.37 | zobbo | yes, not there. Will pull over and try and reinstall as you instruct |
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17:59.15 | jconnolly | zobbo: are you hax0ring while driving? |
17:59.18 | jconnolly | not encouraged! |
17:59.29 | zobbo | pull *it* over :) |
17:59.35 | jconnolly | ;D |
17:59.37 | zobbo | ok, it's installed. Reboot ? |
17:59.40 | jconnolly | no |
17:59.41 | jconnolly | try: |
17:59.50 | jconnolly | /etc/init.d/concierge restart && tail -f /var/log/concierge.log |
17:59.54 | jconnolly | see if the exceptions vanish |
18:00.21 | jconnolly | reboot is overkill |
18:00.23 | zobbo | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
18:00.37 | zobbo | excellent, many thanks |
18:00.49 | jconnolly | no sweat, have fun. |
18:01.55 | jconnolly | anyone see Boardwalk Empire yet? |
18:02.02 | bugvish | yes |
18:02.04 | bugvish | its good |
18:02.11 | jconnolly | I missed it sunday, hope it's on demand |
18:02.16 | jconnolly | I want to get in at the ground floor |
18:02.58 | bugvish | get at it through the front door |
18:03.10 | bugvish | as opposed to |
18:03.19 | jconnolly | btw, Steve Buscemi is Long Island product |
18:03.24 | kgilmer | bugvish, get that macpro yet? |
18:03.26 | jconnolly | grade A, Long Island teeth |
18:03.39 | jconnolly | I went to HS with his nephew |
18:03.46 | jconnolly | which technically makes me a Movie Star |
18:04.19 | jconnolly | ok, now GPS issue. |
18:04.23 | jconnolly | needs cone of silence |
18:05.05 | bugvish | dang jconnolly...first Dan Deacon |
18:05.12 | bugvish | now Steve Buscemi's nephew |
18:06.04 | jconnolly | bugvish: do you feel honored to know me? |
18:06.10 | jconnolly | I feel honored to know me |
18:06.23 | Ch0lly | Cindy saw John Turturro yesterday in park slope |
18:06.43 | ahernandez | wow public |
18:06.49 | Ch0lly | http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTtjQC_fSfwHFSttl5YNEjJiT15DCcUFemTwHEA3Iqva_8wiEs&t=1&usg=__54oPKZcuaTlrdVPDSLEGKifni2E= |
18:06.58 | jconnolly | <333 John Turturro <333 |
18:07.01 | jconnolly | he's Very Very Sneaky |
18:07.27 | kgilmer | <PROTECTED> |
18:07.30 | kgilmer | <PROTECTED> |
18:09.06 | jconnolly | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lYBVi3ALWA |
18:09.41 | jconnolly | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCA0Lpy671g |
18:09.43 | jconnolly | genius |
18:11.47 | Ch0lly | he is sneaky |
18:11.59 | Ch0lly | but you aren't related? |
18:12.55 | jconnolly | Sacha's great great great great great great grandfather fought windmills with Turturro's great great great great great uncle Pancho |
18:14.11 | grund|lunch | man he looks like basil rathbone http://bit.ly/afxQfw |
18:14.26 | grund|lunch | I was just watching captain blood this weekend |
18:20.37 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: I don't get what the icon prolem in nm-applet is about. I have copied all available icons from the tarball to the bug theme and still the crypted wifi icon is missing |
18:21.04 | jconnolly | stefan_schmidt: I did the same damned thing, even tried gnome-update-icon-list or whatever |
18:21.10 | jconnolly | that's why I gave it to you ;D |
18:21.19 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: heh, good choice ;) |
18:21.19 | jconnolly | I'll ask on network-manager ML |
18:21.27 | jconnolly | see what kind of response I get |
18:21.31 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: ok, I keep trying here |
18:21.46 | jconnolly | kgilmer: spot on: http://kgilmersden.wordpress.com/2010/09/15/rapid-changes-in-mobile-oss-and-platforms/ |
18:21.47 | stefan_schmidt | at least it seems the only missing icon I can find |
18:22.16 | jconnolly | stefan_schmidt: the dialog for initiation a protected network connection, that shows the same icon? |
18:22.20 | jconnolly | because that one is broken too |
18:22.27 | jconnolly | not sure if they're the same though |
18:22.35 | jconnolly | didn't get that far |
18:22.42 | zobbo | Dragonfly page on the wiki says Java 1.5 or higher. When I go to the link it's giving me version 6 to download. I assume that's ok, just version name madness ? |
18:22.44 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: yeah, the one icon I mean |
18:22.46 | jconnolly | i bet it's the same icon, would be intuitive |
18:22.56 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: maybe just a different size |
18:23.01 | stefan_schmidt | yup |
18:23.04 | jconnolly | zobbo: jdk 1.6 should be fine for eclipse too |
18:23.29 | zobbo | so when they say version 6, it means 1.6? |
18:23.31 | jconnolly | zobbo: that wiki was written back when ubuntu still have sun-java5-jre in feeds |
18:23.49 | jconnolly | zobbo: yes, the convention is java1.4 = java1.4, java5 = java1.5, java6 = java1.6 |
18:23.54 | zobbo | I'm not a Java man - yet :) |
18:24.00 | zobbo | ok, I'll give it a stab - thanks |
18:24.03 | jconnolly | np |
18:24.15 | jconnolly | zobbo: i prefer openjdk-6-jdk on ubuntu 10.04 |
18:24.20 | jconnolly | open source ftw |
18:24.52 | jconnolly | jconnolly@jconnolly-linux:~$ sudo update-alternatives --config java |
18:24.52 | jconnolly | There is only one alternative in link group java: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java |
18:24.55 | jconnolly | Nothing to configure. |
18:25.22 | zobbo | For reasons I won't bore you with, it's going to be running on a Windows 7 machine for the moment. Although I'm talking to you on Lucid. |
18:33.11 | jconnolly | ah |
18:39.53 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: if (gtk_icon_theme_has_icon (gtk_icon_theme_get_default (), "network-wireless-encrypted") |
18:40.02 | stefan_schmidt | thats from the applet code |
18:40.04 | jconnolly | that's the bugger |
18:40.09 | stefan_schmidt | and I can't find the icon |
18:40.24 | stefan_schmidt | maybe just a bug in that release? |
18:40.29 | stefan_schmidt | fetches a newer tarball |
18:40.44 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: or do you want it matching the bug theme? |
18:40.57 | jconnolly | could be |
18:41.03 | stefan_schmidt | wait, I will try anothr icon with the correct name first |
18:41.07 | jconnolly | good idea |
18:41.13 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: let me first figure it out |
18:42.12 | jconnolly | hmm interesting |
18:42.13 | jconnolly | /opt/build/accenture-build/build/tmp/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gnome-icon-theme-2.26.0-r0/gnome-icon-theme-2.26.0/16x16/status/network-wireless-encrypted.png |
18:42.29 | jconnolly | is one of the ones that turns up when I "locate wireless-encrypted" locally |
18:42.36 | stefan_schmidt | strange |
18:42.47 | stefan_schmidt | ah, they are abusing the gnome icon theme one |
18:42.49 | jconnolly | maybe it's not installed though |
18:42.57 | stefan_schmidt | maybe we need to copy it over to the bug theme |
18:43.30 | stefan_schmidt | not installed |
18:43.38 | jconnolly | root@bug20:~# ls /usr/lib/ipkg/info/gnome*icon* |
18:43.38 | jconnolly | ls: cannot access /usr/lib/ipkg/info/gnome*icon*: No such file or directory |
18:43.41 | jconnolly | yah |
18:43.50 | jconnolly | maybe I'll try adding it to task-bug |
18:43.51 | stefan_schmidt | lets try that :) |
18:43.53 | jconnolly | see if that helps |
18:43.58 | jconnolly | you want to do it? |
18:43.58 | stefan_schmidt | I can do this |
18:44.00 | jconnolly | cool |
18:44.06 | jconnolly | that would be a nice easy fix |
18:44.09 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: keep your stuff going :) |
18:44.13 | stefan_schmidt | indeed |
18:44.15 | jconnolly | indeed... debugging jni |
18:44.18 | jconnolly | hateful JNI |
18:45.36 | stefan_schmidt | ah, you are searching for something else ;) |
18:45.49 | jconnolly | needle in a haystack, this one |
18:45.55 | stefan_schmidt | is happy that JNI is for sure not covered in his work contract with BugLabs :) |
18:46.12 | stefan_schmidt | But I know mostly nothing about it anyway |
18:46.25 | stefan_schmidt | Just that it is used if you want C stuff in java |
18:47.17 | stefan_schmidt | installing the icon theme is sloooow |
18:48.33 | jconnolly | slower than glibc locales? |
18:49.17 | stefan_schmidt | heh, no :) |
18:53.02 | stefan_schmidt | sigh, installing the same overrules our bug theme |
18:54.30 | stefan_schmidt | and still the missing icon for wireless crypted |
18:54.33 | stefan_schmidt | hmm |
18:54.35 | stefan_schmidt | ponders |
18:54.50 | stefan_schmidt | Such detective work is boring |
18:59.29 | jconnolly | boom. think I fixed it |
18:59.32 | jconnolly | stefan_schmidt: indeed, very boring |
18:59.41 | jconnolly | stefan_schmidt: i wonder if adding it to rootfs might be better |
18:59.48 | jconnolly | something about building the icon index or somesuch reason |
19:00.04 | jconnolly | these themes are proving annoying |
19:00.06 | stefan_schmidt | that was done in the post process |
19:00.14 | stefan_schmidt | indeed |
19:00.38 | stefan_schmidt | ok, will need to figure this out tomorrow |
19:00.50 | stefan_schmidt | gf asks for some time and its already 9pm |
19:01.06 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: you need this until friday at last, right? |
19:01.40 | jconnolly | stefan_schmidt: today is a cutoff but it's ok, cosmetic issues are fine. this is not a show-stopper |
19:01.51 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: ok |
19:02.01 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: anything else you need from me urgently? |
19:02.01 | jconnolly | we will fix it when we can |
19:02.19 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: it has bugged me enough that I want to get it fixed :) |
19:02.22 | jconnolly | stefan_schmidt: this looks ok to me now. I'm going to try to modify udev151 recipe so it doesn't install the persistent-net-rules |
19:02.29 | jconnolly | stefan_schmidt: i know the feeling. "scatching the itch" |
19:02.34 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: :) |
19:02.42 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
19:03.25 | hrw | re |
19:03.39 | stefan_schmidt | wb hrw |
19:03.45 | hrw | so what do you want to know about linaro? |
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19:04.46 | stefan_schmidt | hrw: getting all the ARM sh*t together to be less fragmented |
19:04.58 | stefan_schmidt | trying to catch up with X86 for more then mobile |
19:05.00 | jconnolly | you know our build system and our product, haveahennessy wants to get more feedbac/activity from the linaro work and I was wondering about how we could go about trying to use some of the work. |
19:05.24 | grund | We'd really like to know the world domination timeline |
19:05.40 | jconnolly | yes, when shall we expect to be swalloed/bought by linaro? |
19:05.56 | hrw | grund: hi, we did not had possibility to work before. |
19:06.07 | hrw | jconnolly: linaro is non-profit |
19:06.07 | stefan_schmidt | and what kind of paychecks we have to expect ;) |
19:06.16 | CIA-48 | Bug Labs: jconnolly * r12109 /bug/trunk/com.buglabs.bug.jni.gps/ (5 files in 3 dirs): com.buglabs.bug.jni.gps: should fix http://redmine.buglabs.net/issues/show/1469 |
19:06.20 | hrw | I am paid by Canonical not Linaro |
19:06.53 | jconnolly | naturally haveahennessy is in a meeting now. i think he's interested in using some of the work on uboot, kernel, toolchains |
19:07.04 | hrw | I think that for buglabs there are few things to check |
19:07.06 | jconnolly | somehow merging it with our OE-based work, or at least learning more about it |
19:07.48 | hrw | 1. linaro kernel tree - 2.6.35 based on ubuntu one + changes from arm communities. kind of linux-next for arm it is planned to be |
19:08.16 | hrw | 2. U-Boot - we do not support other bootloaders and we base on more or less recent one. |
19:08.57 | hrw | 3. toolchain - we provide gcc 4.4 and 4.5 in monthly releases. main area is cortex-a8/9 improvements, neon etc |
19:09.18 | hrw | the goal is to squeeze whatever is possible from arm chips to make it faster |
19:09.44 | hrw | some code will land in eglibc 2.12.1 (and later) and in other projects |
19:09.57 | hrw | 4. dev tools - valgrind, gdb, oprofile etc |
19:10.11 | jconnolly | grund: ^^^ |
19:10.43 | jconnolly | I wonder if linaro is on the minds of the OE TSC |
19:10.48 | hrw | kernel require some work (you are still 2.6.31?) but split it into smallest parts and push mainline - will help you always |
19:11.04 | jconnolly | yes but we were considering 2.6.34 very soon after launch |
19:11.14 | hrw | uboot probably will be easy as there is nearly nothing special in bug one iirc |
19:11.18 | hrw | jconnolly: .35 not .34 |
19:11.19 | jconnolly | yes |
19:11.22 | jconnolly | indeed hrw |
19:11.29 | hrw | .34 is not supported by stable releases |
19:11.46 | hrw | and .35 is linaro tree too |
19:11.55 | jconnolly | makes sense |
19:12.09 | hrw | gcc/linaro gdb/linaro can be added into OE in easy way I think |
19:14.11 | hrw | but thats not me - not in nearest month |
19:14.18 | stefan_schmidt | heh |
19:14.25 | stefan_schmidt | looks to some other place |
19:14.26 | stefan_schmidt | ;) |
19:14.59 | stefan_schmidt | If John/ken want me to do this I could take a look |
19:15.23 | stefan_schmidt | kernel and u-bbot is for the other guys |
19:16.21 | stefan_schmidt | sighs as he is still here and scratches the itch while his gf has gone to bed |
19:17.29 | hrw | uboot maybe easy enough even for you stefan_schmidt ;) |
19:17.38 | jconnolly | clam |
19:18.16 | stefan_schmidt | hrw: it is easy, not the point. I'm just doing no kernel or bootloader work here. OE is my job. |
19:18.25 | stefan_schmidt | Other kernel tasks elsewhere :) |
19:18.42 | hrw | stefan_schmidt: nice |
19:18.54 | hrw | did also some kernel job |
19:19.15 | stefan_schmidt | hrw: Some driver should go into space in october :) |
19:19.39 | stefan_schmidt | http://www.datenfreihafen.org/~stefan/weblog/archives/2010/02/index.html#e2010-02-28T15_40_36.txt |
19:20.01 | hrw | saw that already |
19:23.10 | hrw | how goes bug2.0 anyway? |
19:23.20 | hrw | final hardware exists? case for it? |
19:23.30 | jconnolly | yes. factory is cranking away right now |
19:23.42 | stefan_schmidt | hrw: I have a reva here, revb is only for the us people |
19:23.43 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
19:23.44 | jconnolly | of course we still have outdated/no-plastics in the office... |
19:23.50 | stefan_schmidt | heh |
19:23.52 | jconnolly | customers will likely get it before us |
19:23.58 | jconnolly | shakes fist at mpeddi |
19:24.00 | stefan_schmidt | wants a final bug at some point |
19:24.09 | jconnolly | stefan_schmidt: 400 euro |
19:24.20 | jconnolly | payable to John Connolly |
19:24.34 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: so an hour work? ;D |
19:24.40 | jconnolly | hehe |
19:24.52 | jconnolly | ugh, squish one JNI defect, 30 more pop up |
19:25.03 | jconnolly | the funny part is that JNI doesn't go away even if we want android |
19:25.10 | jconnolly | I should be a JNI engineer |
19:25.15 | jconnolly | work only on this mess |
19:25.21 | stefan_schmidt | you would not love it |
19:25.25 | jconnolly | i would not indeed |
19:25.29 | stefan_schmidt | there is so much other mess you like to touch |
19:25.51 | hrw | stefan_schmidt: reva is probably same as I had. 3[45]30, 256MB ram, few leds (not always working), inverted bmis |
19:26.09 | stefan_schmidt | hrw: yes, it is. Quite solid actually |
19:26.21 | hrw | stefan_schmidt: mine had a case :D |
19:26.35 | jconnolly | a rugged case |
19:26.39 | stefan_schmidt | hrw: bugger, why did I not get one |
19:26.46 | jconnolly | stefan_schmidt: do-ocracy |
19:26.51 | jconnolly | hrw will probably have a link |
19:27.04 | stefan_schmidt | feels that the NYC office hates him |
19:27.12 | jconnolly | you'll get love stefan_schmidt, don't worry |
19:27.16 | jconnolly | we're waiting for love here too |
19:27.20 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
19:27.26 | jconnolly | haveahennessy is the only favorite here. he has a revB in production plastics |
19:27.42 | hrw | jconnolly: I did not blogged about it |
19:28.07 | hrw | stefan_schmidt: I did put bug2.0 in case of bug1.2 |
19:28.15 | hrw | stefan_schmidt: lot of cutting |
19:28.18 | stefan_schmidt | hrw: ah |
19:28.22 | stefan_schmidt | hrw: that explains it |
19:28.30 | stefan_schmidt | hrw: never got an 1.x bug |
19:28.40 | jconnolly | ah so you didn't |
19:29.17 | stefan_schmidt | nope, no 1.x, no plastics, no love |
19:29.27 | stefan_schmidt | that is why I'm feeling sad all day actually |
19:29.43 | stefan_schmidt | thinks he should stop before people start believing this :) |
19:30.19 | jconnolly | if you keep whining i'll send you my Poky beaver stefan_schmidt |
19:30.31 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: heh |
19:30.40 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: that one I also never got :) |
19:30.45 | hrw | jconnolly: this is your poky beaver |
19:30.50 | jconnolly | you didn't bug hrw enough stefan_schmidt |
19:31.01 | stefan_schmidt | jconnolly: might be, might be |
19:31.14 | stefan_schmidt | ah, and I did not hire OpenedHand |
19:31.15 | hrw | I have two beavers only |
19:31.22 | stefan_schmidt | just kidding |
19:31.32 | hrw | had 4, sent one to Ken, second to JC when left BL |
19:33.10 | jconnolly | mine's still atop my desktop ;D |
19:34.18 | hrw | mines are under monitor |
19:34.46 | stefan_schmidt | hrw: work question: Linaro is going to take the dalvik VM and builds it with normal glibc or with google libc? |
19:34.58 | hrw | rather bionic one |
19:35.09 | stefan_schmidt | pity |
19:35.15 | stefan_schmidt | expected though |
19:35.16 | hrw | but thats not my working group |
19:35.28 | stefan_schmidt | hacking it all out of dalvik would not be fun I think |
19:35.32 | stefan_schmidt | hrw: ok |
19:35.56 | hrw | stefan_schmidt: the goal is to make android vendor users to use our work to build android stuff |
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19:37.32 | stefan__ | *grumble* |
19:37.40 | stefan__ | 24h forced disconnect |
19:42.34 | stefan__ | ha, got you bugger!! |
19:43.01 | stefan__ | jconnolly: just putting in the missing icon from gnome-icon-theme into Bug 16x16/status/ |
19:43.19 | stefan__ | and then running gtk-update-icon-theme let it show up :) |
19:43.21 | jconnolly | ah there we are |
19:43.27 | grund | hi hrw, sorry stepped away to mod up a gps right when you started dishing the good stuff |
19:43.36 | jconnolly | stefan__: we can add that to svn for BUG icons |
19:43.49 | stefan__ | jconnolly: yup |
19:44.05 | stefan__ | jconnolly: but, the icons for create network are still missing |
19:44.13 | stefan__ | at least I know what do do now :) |
19:44.22 | jconnolly | itch: scratched |
19:44.29 | stefan__ | jconnolly: mostly |
19:44.47 | stefan__ | dives again in the applet code to find out the icon names |
19:46.02 | mpeddi | jconnolly, a little "appreciation" thrown my way could get you hardware that much faster |
19:46.22 | jconnolly | sends accolades, escalades towards mpeddi |
19:46.22 | ahernandez | ditto |
19:46.28 | jconnolly | ahernandez: i just unignored you |
19:46.31 | jconnolly | don't push it |
19:46.40 | stefan__ | mpeddi: something you need from germany? ;) |
19:46.41 | ahernandez | pushes it |
19:47.39 | mpeddi | is your money green over the stefan? |
19:48.07 | grund | mpeddi: no, it's actually quite pretty |
19:48.07 | stefan__ | mpeddi: that and we have beautiful girls, good beer and more |
19:48.20 | stefan__ | the 100Eur one is green :) |
19:48.36 | jconnolly | went to a german restaurant last night, got the worst Currywurst ever |
19:48.50 | jconnolly | it wasn't even curry! it was like a Hollandaise sauce! |
19:48.55 | jconnolly | not even CLOSE to curry |
19:49.10 | grund | The currywurst in germany wasn't much better, don't sweat it |
19:49.31 | jconnolly | the currywurst at Lorelei is pretty decent |
19:49.35 | jconnolly | excellent with a heffeweizen |
19:49.57 | jconnolly | http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs611.snc4/59124_10150291396665425_525165424_14717203_8167431_n.jpg |
19:50.07 | jconnolly | hehe |
19:50.16 | CIA-48 | Bug Labs: jconnolly * r12110 /bug/trunk/com.buglabs.bug.module.gps/com/buglabs/bug/module/gps/GPSModlet.java: com.buglabs.bug.module.gps: fix GPS modlet so it reports ioctl failures accurately. |
19:51.01 | stefan__ | jconnolly: ah, nice mass. |
19:51.10 | grund | I've mentioned I think weekly eng gatherings are a good idea, not for status, but to discuss ummm technical developments |
19:51.12 | grund | no? |
19:51.21 | stefan__ | will get some more on monday at the Oktoberfest :) |
19:51.22 | jconnolly | WORK MOAR |
19:51.42 | wwward | <PROTECTED> |
19:52.08 | jconnolly | is there one up at bear mountain? |
19:52.12 | jconnolly | probably pretty epic up there |
19:52.28 | wwward | checking to see if it's still on this year. |
19:53.00 | wwward | oh my, it's already on. |
19:53.06 | wwward | http://www.visitbearmountain.com/dining/dining-events |
19:53.06 | grund | brb |
19:53.36 | wwward | jconnolly I've been twice. It's generally pretty nice, better in october when the leaves are worth checking out. |
19:53.44 | grund | awww man, we missed Jimmy Sturr |
19:53.50 | wwward | "The" Jimmy Stur. |
19:53.57 | wwward | +r |
19:54.01 | grund | Yes +1 |
19:54.27 | jconnolly | I like Frankie Yankovic, personally |
19:54.34 | jconnolly | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kTWwJ9NQbY |
19:56.10 | grund | yeah, I don't have sound on and can hear that whole song |
19:57.02 | stefan__ | jconnolly: network-wireless.png makes it show up in the dialog as well |
19:57.09 | stefan__ | jconnolly: finally! |
19:57.19 | jconnolly | stefan__: a hearty backslap to ye |
19:57.28 | stefan__ | jconnolly: I will add the stuff to our svn theme tomorrow |
19:57.38 | jconnolly | k stefan__, thanks |
19:57.43 | stefan__ | jconnolly: np |
19:57.53 | stefan__ | jconnolly: that would be all from me for the delivery? |
19:58.18 | stefan__ | jconnolly: will go back to ntp-client and other small things from redmine then |
19:58.20 | jconnolly | stefan__: sounds good. if you're around tomorrow and notice no svn logs for udev_151, perhaps removing the persistent-net rules |
19:58.35 | jconnolly | you should see RI activity about it in your inbox |
19:59.14 | jconnolly | haveahennessy: show me some love |
19:59.15 | jconnolly | haveahennessy: printf ("Setting ACTIVE_ANT\n"); retval = ioctl (ctl_fd, BMI_GPS_ACTIVE_ANT, 0); printf("Return value: 0x%x\n",retval); |
19:59.19 | jconnolly | prints: |
19:59.29 | jconnolly | Setting ACTIVE_ANT |
19:59.30 | jconnolly | Return value: 0xffffffff |
19:59.30 | jconnolly | Setting PASSIVE_ANT |
19:59.30 | jconnolly | Return value: 0xffffffff |
20:00.05 | stefan__ | jconnolly: will be around tomorrow |
20:00.09 | jconnolly | k stefan__ sounds good |
20:00.10 | stefan__ | cu and good night |
20:00.14 | jconnolly | night |
20:02.23 | haveahennessy | jconnolly.. i see |
20:02.42 | haveahennessy | make me an RI d-: |
20:06.18 | jconnolly | haveahennessy: will do |
20:14.11 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
20:19.20 | jconnolly | haveahennessy: done |
20:19.24 | hrw | haveahennessy: still .31 for bug? |
20:19.28 | haveahennessy | thanks |
20:19.34 | haveahennessy | hrw.. unfortunately |
20:19.45 | haveahennessy | I've had 2.6.35 running on it tho |
20:20.06 | bugvish | goo jconnolly does the resolution of defect 1413 imply we're closer to installing roofts on the bug via the userSD |
20:20.11 | haveahennessy | but there was resistance to moving up a few months ago |
20:20.27 | ahernandez | the force is strong with this one |
20:21.08 | bugvish | cuz i'll sell the hell outta that |
20:21.08 | jconnolly | bugvish: slightly closer, but that just cuts away some inhbitions. there are still issues about how to have dd/bunzip2 available even though we need to umount / |
20:21.41 | jconnolly | bugvish: and the userSD is kinda irrelevant really, the idea is that we should be able to write to overwrite sysSD from sysSD |
20:21.43 | mpeddi | a new way to cornify yourself jconnolly: http://balharboursurgery.com/heidiyourself/ |
20:21.46 | jconnolly | that's the Magical Goal |
20:22.34 | bugvish | alright i'll let meat-Z know thats good to go for the release |
20:23.59 | jconnolly | cool thanks bugvish |
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20:25.51 | hrw | haveahennessy: linaro kernel is .35 so if you want to go that way then you will have to upgrade anyway |
20:26.22 | hrw | haveahennessy: anyway consider pushing stuff to mainline - otherwise it will end like bug1 ;( |
20:27.59 | haveahennessy | hrw thats the intention |
20:28.34 | jconnolly | nice |
20:29.16 | hrw | cool |
20:31.09 | haveahennessy | hrw you been doing any omap4 work? |
20:31.31 | hrw | haveahennessy: still waiting for pandaboard to arrive |
20:31.49 | haveahennessy | yeah whats the deal with that? when's it expected? |
20:31.52 | hrw | haveahennessy: in other words: nothing done by me for omap4 |
20:32.08 | haveahennessy | I see some guys in ubuntu-arm have them tho |
20:32.18 | hrw | pandaboard had to be released in october and they stay with that date |
20:32.34 | hrw | pandaboard is supported by Ubuntu 10.10 as main distro |
20:32.54 | hrw | so TI gave some boards to ubuntu/arm people to make it happen |
20:33.09 | hrw | I am waiting for personal board not company one ;D |
20:37.28 | hrw | have a nice rest of day |
20:39.19 | Ch0lly | i think that was the most awkward birthday greeting yet! |
20:42.20 | grund | <PROTECTED> |
20:43.56 | haveahennessy | good one cholly |
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21:27.10 | jconnolly | ugh |
21:27.16 | jconnolly | why is 2.6.27.2 still in trunk? |
21:30.02 | haveahennessy | jconnolly: #1480 fixed and pushed |
21:30.05 | haveahennessy | laters |
21:30.08 | jconnolly | haveahennessy: thanks duder |
21:32.06 | CIA-48 | Bug Labs: jconnolly * r12111 /bug/trunk/com.buglabs.build.oe/meta-bug/packages/linux/linux-omap-hah_2.6.31.bb: com.buglabs.build.oe: trunk, bump SHA/PR for fix to RI #1480 |
21:32.33 | jconnolly | bugvish: Stock peerage |
21:32.35 | jconnolly | oops |
21:32.36 | jconnolly | haha |
21:32.40 | jconnolly | captcha+IRC all at once |
21:32.57 | jconnolly | bugvish: RC for accenture will likely be tomorrow morning... some issues came up, need to build overnight and test |
21:33.24 | bugvish | ooookiiee jconnolly|lirr |
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