irclog2html for blob on 2002.05.24

01:23:19Sammymorn ing
01:25:37Sammyget coffee ...
07:14:39mmatten_morning
14:19:02prpplaguemorning all
14:19:04prpplagueerikm: !
14:19:08prpplagueerikm: long time no see
14:19:12prpplagueerikm: how are ya dude?
14:19:19erikmhello prpplague
14:19:34erikmprpplague: I'm fine, I just have been awfully busy
14:22:28mmatten<- leaving, have a nice weekend all :)
14:36:45prpplagueerikm: i heard you had a new job
14:51:24erikmprpplague: that's right. www.bitwizard.nl and www.harddisk-recovery.com
14:51:58prpplagueerikm: i'm surprised it wasn't more embedded stuff
14:53:28erikmprpplague: we do embedded stuff. ppc project at the moment
15:00:08prpplagueerikm: cool
15:00:31prpplagueerikm: still planning to attend OLS right?
15:03:22erikmprpplague: *nod*
15:03:28erikmprpplague: fsck
15:03:43erikmprpplague: forgot to call the travel agency for the hotel room
15:03:49erikmprpplague: oh well
15:06:41prpplagueerikm: the suites place still has a couple rooms
15:08:13prpplagueerikm: worst case, i've got one of the large suites, you could always sleep on the pull out bed, lol
15:09:59erikmlol :)
16:36:13prpplagueerikm: you ever done anything with a pcmcia controler running through a pci-bridge?
16:38:01erikmprpplague: that's cardbus, not pcmcia
16:38:31erikmprpplague: and yes, my laptop has such a beast
16:38:53prpplagueerikm: hmm, maybe i'm not saying it correctly
16:39:32prpplagueerikm: this board is using a cl-pd6729 controler that is connected to the pci bus
16:39:53prpplagueerikm: is that cardbus?
16:45:16Russ|werkmorning erikm
16:50:52Russ|werkerikm: notice any 10/100 ethernet chips for arm lately?
16:57:22erikmprpplague: most probably. cardbus is backwards compatible with pcmcia
16:57:28erikmRuss|werk: hi Russ
16:57:43erikmRuss|werk: afaik there is only still the SMC chip
17:00:30Russ|werkmaybe I can hack together a minimal PCI bus
17:01:17erikmRuss|werk: that's going to be tough. much easier to take a SA110+companion chip
17:01:40erikmRuss|werk: PCI is quite a complicated standard
17:01:51Russ|werkI don't need to implement all of it
17:02:08Russ|werkjust enough to get an rtl8139 going
17:02:16erikmRuss|werk: not all, but the minimal functions are already quite hard
17:02:44Russ|werkI take it you'we looked it up
17:03:00erikmRuss|werk: PCI is not only about the electric connections, the largest part of the standard is about bus arbitration, etc.
17:07:57prpplagueerikm: well, linux running on this board doesn't seem to find the controler, guess they've changed an address or soemthing
17:08:08erikmprpplague: what does lspci say?
17:08:56prpplagueerikm: i see the pcmcia bridge there
17:12:51erikmhmm
17:13:08prpplagueit says the io is on f400 irq 9, but doesn't the standard i82365 look at a base of 3e8 ?
17:13:26erikmprpplague: doesn't it say that it's a cardbus bridge? I'm sure my laptop does
17:14:08erikmprpplague: a PCI device can be mapped anywhere the kernel (or BIOS) want
17:14:12prpplaguethis one labels it-   pcmcia bridge: Cirrus Logic CL-PD6729
17:14:23erikmprpplague: look it up on www.cirrus.com
17:15:13prpplagueerikm: ya i have the developers guide for the CL-PD6729, but according to the specs, its suppose to be implemented on an isa bus
17:15:44erikmprpplague: ok, so most probably there is an PCI-ISA bridge
17:15:57erikmprpplague: which could be hidden in a PLX 9050 or so
17:17:58prpplagueerikm: ahh, i think i've found the problem, the modules only looks for the pcmcia on irqs 1-8 not on 9 where it is currently
17:18:15erikmprpplague: ah, silly pc-isms
17:19:08prpplagueerikm: thanks
17:19:34prpplagueerikm: it so hard to work around here sometimes with no one to brain storm this stuff with
17:20:39prpplaguestill says the pcmcia standard was written by aliens
17:20:48erikmmost standards are
17:21:03erikmremembers to ritually burn the acpi spec

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