| 09:27:58 | seletz | hi |
| 09:42:59 | seletz | erikm: hi |
| 09:43:03 | erikm | hello |
| 13:08:51 | erikm | seletz: got your mail. german is no problem to read |
| 13:13:03 | seletz | erikm: well, people just use blob and it works. This guy will send patches when he got blob working. Have you seen those trizeps boards? |
| 13:13:35 | seletz | http://www.keith-koep.com/trizeps.html |
| 13:13:56 | seletz | ah, the url was in the mail too, i remember now. |
| 13:14:25 | erikm | neat |
| 15:21:14 | seletz | prpplague: hi |
| 15:23:11 | prpplague | seletz: well, bad news |
| 15:23:20 | seletz | prpplague: guessed so |
| 15:23:39 | erikm | prpplague: uhoh... |
| 15:24:00 | prpplague | seletz: the project is a no go, but not because of the type of project |
| 15:24:11 | seletz | prpplague: hmm? |
| 15:24:28 | prpplague | seletz: we just got the go ahead to switch ALL of our apps from proprietary *nix to linux |
| 15:24:54 | prpplague | seletz: in other words, the arm stuff is just on hold for 90 days |
| 15:25:09 | seletz | prpplague: hmm, ok. What then |
| 15:25:37 | prpplague | seletz: then we re-propose, and this time we pretty much a shoe-in |
| 15:26:15 | seletz | prpplague: sorry, what does "shoe-in" mean? |
| 15:26:37 | prpplague | seletz: slang for guaranteed |
| 15:27:15 | seletz | one moment pls |
| 15:27:17 | mmatten | oh so it's was rather 'semi' bad news :) |
| 15:27:29 | mmatten | hi all btw |
| 15:27:31 | prpplague | mmatten: ya |
| 15:27:39 | prpplague | mmatten: btw, howdy |
| 15:33:09 | prpplague | erikm: morning/evening |
| 15:33:29 | erikm | hello, prpplague |
| 15:33:29 | prpplague | jumps for joy! |
| 15:33:45 | prpplague | erikm: our company is finally switching completely to linux! |
| 15:33:53 | prpplague | erikm: no more *nix |
| 15:34:11 | prpplague | erikm: well i should say no more proprietary *nix |
| 15:35:03 | erikm | prpplague: woohoo! |
| 15:35:29 | erikm | prpplague: well, the last propriatary unix on x86 died a couple of months ago when sun pulled the plug from solaris/x86 :) |
| 15:36:51 | seletz | erikm: welll, there's stil ibm aix ... |
| 15:38:30 | seletz | back |
| 15:39:37 | seletz | prpplague: ok, so you think that once you have ported everyting to linux your company will eventually need such arm modules? |
| 15:40:29 | prpplague | seletz: guaranteed |
| 15:41:00 | seletz | prpplague: "wie jetzt?" |
| 15:41:11 | seletz | prpplague: uhoh, english :) |
| 15:41:50 | seletz | prpplague: guranteed? Well, if it's guaranteed, then why not built them _now_ that we have them in 90 days? |
| 15:42:06 | prpplague | seletz: you know we lazy americans don't speak foreign languages(even our own for that matter!lol) |
| 15:42:23 | mmatten | seletz just has the bad habit to quote me :P |
| 15:42:30 | prpplague | seletz: because, we won't have anyone to work with you on them |
| 15:42:31 | seletz | har har! |
| 15:43:05 | seletz | prpplague: hmm, you mean: test them if they really work or not? |
| 15:43:13 | prpplague | seletz: ya |
| 15:44:12 | seletz | prpplague: well, if we would try to merket them, so you could by then have a well-known module which works, i.e. luns linux to some extent, that would be nice, no? |
| 15:45:25 | prpplague | seletz: that would great, we are not looking to corner the market on these modules, we want you guys to make money any way you can |
| 15:46:00 | mmatten | (i like the last part) |
| 15:46:40 | seletz | prpplague: Sounds good. Ok, how are the chances to get some sort of agreement (not a contract) that if the modules work, that your company will use them? |
| 15:48:04 | prpplague | seletz: slim to none, all departments are on hold for that kind of stuff |
| 15:48:33 | seletz | prpplague: the point is: I dont want you to think that you're gonna pay for the development of the cpu modules. You pay for the modules, not for the development. |
| 15:48:58 | prpplague | seletz: let me see what i can find out |
| 15:49:07 | seletz | prpplague: i have some sort of "chicken and egg" problem here, you know :) |
| 15:50:00 | prpplague | seletz: ya |
| 15:50:44 | seletz | prpplague: I'd like to build this modules, I'd invest all my mony (and more) into that. But i don't want to have a pile of high-tech junk nobody cares of at the end. |
| 15:50:55 | prpplague | seletz: agreed |
| 15:51:04 | prpplague | seletz: let me see what i can do |
| 15:51:16 | prpplague | seletz: can you give a couple of days? |
| 15:51:59 | seletz | prpplague: well, fine. Take your time. |
| 15:52:29 | seletz | prpplague: I'll check out some more manufactorers and prices :) |
| 15:53:15 | prpplague | seletz: things are absolutely crazy around here this morning |
| 16:08:13 | prpplague | seletz: on the phone with boss now |
| 16:22:49 | prpplague_ | brb |
| 16:54:47 | Russ | busy day in #blob |
| 16:57:25 | erikm | hello Russ |
| 16:58:19 | Russ | morning |
| 16:58:25 | Russ | brb |
| 16:59:10 | erikm | grrrr, short in the PCMCIA expansion board :( |
| 17:03:53 | mmatten | <- going home |
| 17:03:58 | prpplague | later |
| 17:04:11 | mmatten | yup |
| 17:08:55 | seletz | erikm: playing a little wit PCMCIA? |
| 17:10:22 | erikm | *nod* |
| 17:10:27 | erikm | goes home |
| 17:10:47 | seletz | bye |
| 18:03:24 | prpplague | seletz: are you needing some money upfront? or are you looking for a contract saying we will by x number of cores? |
| 18:37:51 | seletz | prpplague: oh, sorry, was coding. Hmm, either one will be enough. The "buy x cores" one is preffered, tough. |
| 18:38:44 | seletz | ugh s/preff/pref/ |
| 18:39:11 | seletz | prpplague: ping? |
| 18:42:59 | seletz | prpplague: are you still there? |
| 18:51:31 | seletz | going home |
| 20:37:06 | prpplague | mmatten_: you alive? |