| 10:20:59 | seletz | morning! |
| 10:21:08 | erikm | hello |
| 10:30:34 | seletz | erikm: have you ever tried bitkeeper? |
| 10:30:54 | erikm | yes, I've been playing with linus bitkeeper tree |
| 10:31:14 | erikm | (http://linux.bkbits.net:8080/linux-2.5 ) |
| 10:31:18 | seletz | erikm: How is it compared to CVS? |
| 10:31:30 | erikm | completely different |
| 10:31:42 | seletz | :( |
| 10:32:05 | seletz | thought fonverting would be easy ... |
| 10:32:13 | seletz | s/fon/con/ |
| 10:32:17 | erikm | yes, that's true |
| 10:32:25 | erikm | bk is more like SCCS |
| 10:32:35 | seletz | ugh |
| 10:32:58 | seletz | i _once_ worked with SCCS on SINIX systems. yuck. |
| 10:33:06 | erikm | no, it's better than SCCS |
| 10:33:18 | seletz | thought so :) |
| 10:33:43 | erikm | here, this is how fast an update for my complete linux-2.5 tree is: |
| 10:33:48 | erikm | erik@arthur:~/bk-test/linux-2.5 >time bk pull |
| 10:33:49 | erikm | Nothing to pull from http://linux.bkbits.net:8080/linux-2.5 |
| 10:33:49 | erikm | 0.050u 0.040s 0:01.74 5.1%0+0k 0+0io 1299pf+0w |
| 10:34:00 | seletz | jesses! |
| 10:34:07 | seletz | thats fast! |
| 10:34:10 | erikm | *nod* |
| 10:34:25 | erikm | nothing to update, but you know that in 2 seconds |
| 10:34:51 | seletz | patches can be created in the manner maintainers like it quite easy, i heard? |
| 10:35:01 | seletz | (one feature, small etc.) |
| 10:35:39 | erikm | bk thinks in changesets, not in patches. a changeset is basically a combination of patches to a file |
| 10:35:48 | erikm | s/file/number of files/ |
| 10:36:43 | seletz | ah, i thought changesets aer sometimng like a big patch which applies to more than one file? |
| 10:37:00 | erikm | that's what I mean |
| 10:37:05 | seletz | ok :) |
| 10:37:19 | erikm | and bk can keep the revision history if you move a file |
| 10:37:26 | seletz | so such a changeset can be directly sent to, say, russell :) |
| 10:37:48 | seletz | thats really a mess in CVS. Renaming files. |
| 10:37:50 | erikm | russell just started playing with bk |
| 10:38:23 | seletz | has he sorted out the repository issues with this other guy who started an arm repository? |
| 10:38:59 | erikm | not that I know |
| 10:39:20 | erikm | it's also possible that he'll put his repository on www.arm.linux.org.uk |
| 10:39:36 | seletz | pity. i home they do. 2 repositories of the same thing would be really bad. |
| 10:40:09 | seletz | would'nt that mean that he has to pay (cough) for BK? |
| 10:40:10 | erikm | not russell's problem. |
| 10:40:23 | erikm | no. as long as you allow open logging you don't have to pay |
| 10:40:24 | seletz | i know. |
| 10:40:58 | seletz | ah, so logging site != repository site |
| 10:41:06 | erikm | no |
| 10:41:27 | erikm | though you can also get the log information from the repository site |
| 10:41:58 | seletz | thinks there's mutch to learn regarding BK ... |
| 10:42:30 | erikm | I'm told jgarzik is writing a "working with kernel BK trees HOWTO" |
| 10:42:42 | seletz | cool |
| 15:04:33 | prpplague | morning all |
| 15:07:28 | erikm | hello prpplague |
| 15:07:53 | prpplague | anything interesting going on today? |
| 19:00:11 | erikm | woohoo! nico released support for pxa! |
| 20:17:38 | seletz | erikm: do you have any idea how much $$ those dev boards are? |
| 20:18:06 | erikm | no |
| 20:21:06 | seletz | ok, seems that PCMCIA is finally running. phew. |
| 20:21:20 | erikm | cool |
| 20:21:26 | erikm | with linux-2.5, I suppose? |
| 20:21:37 | seletz | 2.5.2-rmk6 |
| 20:22:14 | seletz | I was messing around with timing issues the whole week. |
| 20:23:02 | erikm | plays with bk |
| 20:23:09 | seletz | but now "dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null" works. |
| 20:23:24 | seletz | watches irqs on the scope :) |
| 20:39:31 | seletz | ok, _now_ I'll get some sleep, and a good meal ;^) |
| 20:39:42 | seletz | later, guys |
| 21:16:03 | soll12 | Hi, maybe someone here knows, currently having problem when jumping to ram, could it be sdram timings, even if I'm able to read back the contents? |
| 21:18:52 | prpplague | soll12: there are several reason you could be having a problem, but the man to really give you good answers is not here right |
| 21:19:06 | prpplague | soll12: that would be erikm the originator of blob |
| 21:26:20 | soll12 | ok thanks |