IRC log for #asterisk on 20200919

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04:40.18igcewielingSamot: you around?
04:41.21igcewielingSamot: do you happen to know which low end Mikrotik boxes have a serial console port (usually rj45
04:41.41drmessanoI don't think any low end currently do
04:41.49drmessanoSerial port is kinda on the outs
04:44.49drmessanoI'm trying to think of how high up you have to go now to even get a console port
04:45.10igcewielingvirtually all Adtran and Cisco and Juniper boxes have them.
04:45.15drmessanoCCR series, some CRSes
04:45.34SamotYeah the larger ones have them
04:45.36drmessanoNever had a need
04:45.46SamotBut for a 5 port soho..no
04:46.06igcewielingWe use serial for Adtran router on basically every single install.
04:46.22igcewielingI'm looking for something cheap which we can use instead of Adtran for small sites.
04:46.27SamotYeah but that doesnt mean it is needed
04:46.52drmessanoand I use Winbox with MAC discovery to open a terminal on every new box I configure
04:47.02Samot^^^^
04:47.05SamotThat
04:47.21igcewielingThe hEX looks nice.  Able to use ports as routed or switched mode.
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04:47.34drmessanoEvery MT is like that
04:47.52drmessanoPorts are not bound to a role
04:47.54igcewielingwhat about with Linux?
04:48.22drmessanoWinbox works in Wine on MacOS and Linux
04:49.04drmessanoIf you're dead set on using a system serial console to configure boxes, MT isn't for you
04:49.10drmessanoStick to something more archaic
04:49.41igcewielingdrmessano: no serial console is a mark against it, but it doesn't disqualify it from consideration.
04:50.13drmessanoI even use the OOBM wifi dongle for rescue and it works great
04:50.28drmessanoI need to order a few more
04:50.36SamotSerial isnt really a thing anymore
04:50.48SamotI get that the big boys have it...
04:50.55igcewielingOur techs use Windows.   I don't have a local windows VM handy, but I'll have to figure something out if I want to test it.
04:51.14drmessanoor just use Wine
04:51.18igcewielingSamot: I think it would be cool if the USB port on the HEX showed up as a serial port.
04:51.35igcewielingdrmessano: I really don't want to go down that rabbit hole.
04:51.56igcewielingplug the hex into a PC, open /dev/USBtty00.........
04:52.17drmessanoStick to something more archaic
04:52.20drmessanoReally
04:54.34SamotWhat are these being used for again?
04:55.01igcewieling" I'm looking for something cheap which we can use instead of Adtran for small sites."
04:55.09drmessanoThey have the WOOMB and the MQS for setup, and I don't even need to cable up to them, at all
04:55.17drmessanoWOOBM*
04:55.23SamotJust to put the voice on?
04:55.39igcewielingWe don't do *ANY* wireless whatsoever.
04:55.48SamotJust for the voice?
04:56.00drmessanook?
04:56.02igcewielingSamot: yes, plus GRE tunnel sometimes.
04:56.13SamotOk
04:56.22SamotSo you dont need a serial for this
04:56.22drmessanoI didn't say anything about deploying wireless
04:56.40drmessanohttps://mikrotik.com/product/woobm
04:57.05drmessanohttps://mikrotik.com/product/mqs
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04:57.51SamotYeah. I need some of those
04:58.04SamotGot the WOOMB
04:58.10drmessanoI've got the MQS strapped to a battery pack
04:58.16drmessanoIt's slick
04:58.22igcewielingwhat do they cose?
04:58.26igcewielingcost
04:58.33Samot23
04:58.58SamotAnd thats MSRP
04:59.08SamotGo to the right place, less
04:59.24igcewielingah, down there.
04:59.48SamotI set up these all the time
05:00.00drmessanoI get the MQS for $17.78
05:00.06SamotUnless youre getting really fancy with it. It is a breeze
05:00.41drmessanoHa and the WOOBM for $11
05:00.43SamotAnd i assign unique LANs, have two Dudes watching them and GREs to both
05:00.51igcewielingAnything which can idiot-proof the install is good.
05:01.06SamotI can do it in like 15 minutes
05:01.49Samot30 if i have to do a backup WAN
05:01.54igcewielingRight now, our techs get the router able to ping out the WAN side, then I ssh in and configure it.
05:02.01SamotTops
05:02.07SamotOk
05:02.21SamotSo you use Winbox
05:02.36drmessanoWait
05:02.53drmessanoI thought you wanted/needed serial console?
05:02.53SamotWhere does the serial come in?
05:02.57drmessanoNow it's SSH?
05:03.05igcewielingActually, I use my Adtran router configuration script 8-)
05:03.22igcewielingdrmessano: Yes.  Tech uses serial console to do the initial config.
05:03.30SamotYou can write a script for routeros
05:03.36drmessano......
05:03.44SamotDont these things have GUIs?
05:03.48SamotSSH?
05:04.34igcewielingAdtrans?  Sure, just make sure your laptop has whatever ip is required for this random router taken out of stock.
05:05.12drmessanoIf the techs are setting them up for WAN access so you have SSH access, #1 YOU personally don't need Windows or Winbox at all.  #2 they can do that with Winbox in like 10 seconds, though the default config already sets up WAN access
05:05.36SamotYeah
05:05.37igcewielingdrmessano: I personally need a windows box if I personally want to test the windows only software.
05:05.48SamotDude client
05:06.33igcewielingthe two wireless management options seem a reasonable alternative to serial console access
05:07.00igcewielingAt those prices we can throw them away if we don't like them
05:07.05SamotMan the only time program a router in the field is an emergency drop ship
05:08.47igcewielingbbiaw
05:15.36NautilusHey Samot & drmessano, I'm the fella that was asking about Wowway (and sniffing / blocking) some days ago. Thanks again for that. I went to voip.ms and doing good there for now. Willing to help my friend help troubleshoot his setup if he gets that far, but that's where we're at.
05:16.26NautilusThanks again, will let ya know if we actually find out anything else.
05:16.52drmessanoSo SIP works fine and it's not blocked huh
05:17.10Nautilusyep to voip.ms, all good
05:17.39drmessanoYep, so your friend has some issues
05:18.22SamotOh this thing
05:18.33Nautilusnods, he and his tech may be thinking about it, I'm guessing a couple weeks go by and I hear nothing.
05:19.02NautilusSamot: Yep, just wanted to say you guys nailed it
05:19.26SamotIt just a thing I do
05:19.47drmessanoI taught Samot everything he knows
05:19.48NautilusI can tell :)
05:19.54drmessanoSo you're welcome
05:20.02SamotUhhh
05:20.06Nautilusha
05:20.44drmessanoFirst day I met him on IRC "hey guys, I have one of these SPI phone"
05:20.50drmessanoand I was like "SIP?"
05:20.53drmessano"Yeah that"
05:21.00drmessanoand it's been a long road
05:21.10NautilusSeemed like some good natured ribbing there
05:21.14drmessanoGuy was hooked on Cisco 7800 series for a while
05:21.25SamotYou been visiting Hash's websites?
05:21.31drmessanoHuge PBXInAFlash fanatic
05:21.37SamotOk
05:21.49SamotNow youre just being hurtful
05:22.02drmessanoRemember when you secured your networking using the "Travelin Man" setup?
05:22.09SamotNo
05:22.11drmessanoYou poor bastard
05:22.18SamotThat was Cullen
05:22.33SamotWith his Unfi APs
05:22.57drmessanoLets not speak bad about him
05:22.57SamotJust remember, you listened to Cullen.
05:23.09SamotMic drop
05:23.15drmessanoHe's suffering from severe TDS
05:23.41SamotTotal Douche Symdrom?
05:23.52SamotSyndrom*
05:23.57SamotDamn phone
05:24.38Samotdrmessano: Remember that time you got Unfi APs?
05:24.45SamotOh good times
05:25.04drmessanoTell your Mom I said hi
05:25.06Nautilushm, I've been thinking about getting one
05:25.11drmessanoDon't
05:25.19drmessanoUnifi is terrible
05:25.32SamotIts pretty
05:25.35SamotBut...
05:25.46drmessanoClown Key
05:26.04FH_thecatwhere can I change the email template for voicemail notification ?
05:26.07SamotYeah
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05:26.21SamotVoicemail.conf
05:26.21drmessanovoicemail.conf
05:26.29SamotWhere the current one is
05:26.31drmessanoNo upper case V like Samot typed
05:26.39drmessanoHe's new here
05:26.41SamotPhone did that
05:27.04drmessanoStill burned you tho
05:27.48SamotFine, you can be the big spoon tonight
05:28.07drmessanoyay
05:28.28NautilusI'm not sure what I started but it ain't the first dance lol
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05:43.38FH_thecatsorry, but where exactly in voicemail.conf can I customize the email message ?
05:43.45FH_thecatI don't see the section
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06:17.13SamotIts a setting in the general section
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10:34.47pawhats the simplest way to configure lu-CHANUNAVAIL@sip:1 ? at the moment this ends up in call still active and silence
10:35.17paideally i'd want either immediate hangup, or some message then hangup
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