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| 02:44.00 | Zhinjio | hyo |
| 02:44.05 | Zhinjio | yo, even. |
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| 03:46.32 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Foof. |
| 04:00.25 | Zhinjio | Sup Torhal |
| 04:00.30 | Zhinjio | <-- back from vacation |
| 04:25.37 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Nada. You have fun? |
| 04:35.39 | Zhinjio | yeah, not too bad. good to be home, tho |
| 04:35.51 | Zhinjio | haven't logged into wow in 2 weeks. |
| 04:35.53 | Zhinjio | pretty strange |
| 04:56.25 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 04:56.27 | Torhal | I bet |
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| 16:47.13 | Jim-Bim | pompy1: ping |
| 16:47.26 | Zhinjio | g'morning. |
| 16:47.38 | Jim-Bim | hey zhinjio |
| 17:02.29 | Torhal | Zhinjio, Jim-Bim: Yolas |
| 17:08.12 | Zhinjio | Hey dude. |
| 17:08.42 | Torhal | PTR == Painful Torturous Reamfest |
| 17:09.48 | Torhal | Log in. Find a bug/API change. Try to fix. PTR down. |
| 17:22.54 | pompy1 | Jim-Bim: yes? |
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| 17:31.52 | Thaoky | hey there |
| 18:01.29 | Kaelten | anyone here using 10.4? |
| 18:08.35 | Zhinjio | hey man |
| 18:12.30 | Zhinjio | 10.4 of what? |
| 18:17.41 | Thaoky | Zhinjio: remember our discussion about the DataStore thing ? |
| 18:19.06 | Thaoky | (10.4 of MacOS I assume) |
| 18:21.11 | Zhinjio | Thaoky: yes, I remember. |
| 18:21.20 | Zhinjio | I still have thoughts on the subject. |
| 18:21.24 | Thaoky | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/datastore_containers/ |
| 18:21.39 | Thaoky | there's also a module for achievements, and one for crafts |
| 18:21.52 | Thaoky | pets + talents + reputations are on their way :) |
| 18:21.59 | Zhinjio | excellent |
| 18:22.04 | Thaoky | input is welcome |
| 18:22.34 | Thaoky | basically, I took what I had in alto, made it better and independant, and voila :) |
| 18:23.06 | Zhinjio | I think the key for this is making the API friendly |
| 18:23.19 | Zhinjio | and the heirarchy of data that can be accessed easy to use |
| 18:23.27 | Thaoky | yeah, and defining the scope of what should go in it or not |
| 18:23.44 | Zhinjio | sure. |
| 18:23.48 | Thaoky | you'll see in _Crafts that I went a bit further than scanning & storing data |
| 18:24.04 | Zhinjio | you do need to limit it a bit, but you also need to make it extensible to adapt to what people are already storing in their own addons |
| 18:24.08 | Zhinjio | otherwise noone will use it |
| 18:24.24 | Thaoky | + some service methods |
| 18:24.38 | Thaoky | _Crafts is the most advanced so far |
| 18:24.39 | Zhinjio | I will delete the project stub I had for it |
| 18:24.43 | Zhinjio | thanks for taking that up! |
| 18:24.51 | Thaoky | np, I was bored :> |
| 18:25.44 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 18:26.42 | Zhinjio | can't delete my project |
| 18:29.44 | Zhinjio | ah, thats better colors, now I can read boldface stuff again |
| 18:29.53 | Zhinjio | without going insane |
| 18:32.12 | Zhinjio | someday I'll come up with the perfect color combination for my chat windows |
| 18:32.32 | Zhinjio | and one second after that, the universe will implode and kick off the next big bang |
| 18:33.39 | Thaoky | lol ^ |
| 18:33.41 | Thaoky | ^ |
| 18:33.51 | Thaoky | ^^ |
| 18:38.04 | Zhinjio | DataStore_Containers will be the inventories/bank/gb of all toons, yes? |
| 18:38.57 | Thaoky | yes |
| 18:39.03 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 18:39.34 | Thaoky | ow, and you'll notice I added a top level for accounts, like in alto, just in case |
| 18:41.16 | Zhinjio | switches the email address on his account so he can properly manage subscriptions |
| 18:41.42 | Zhinjio | let me know if I can help on these somehow |
| 18:42.36 | Thaoky | any improvement that comes to your mind is welcome, this is meant to be the beginning, and there are things that are still undecided |
| 18:42.44 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 18:42.59 | Thaoky | like |
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| 18:43.52 | Thaoky | I was thinking about a module that would be DataStore alone, that would be like the main host, telling which other modules are present & so on, but I'm not sure yet if that's necessary |
| 18:44.22 | Zhinjio | that was my original design as well |
| 18:44.35 | Thaoky | I'm working on a branch of altoholic that uses 3 modules so far, just to see what goes right or not |
| 18:44.39 | Zhinjio | each module would extend the tree of available information |
| 18:45.23 | Zhinjio | in my original thinking the "dataStore" core would just be the API to all the modules |
| 18:45.33 | Zhinjio | all the shared code that you're going to need in all of them anyway |
| 18:45.53 | Zhinjio | and it would enforce making the method for interacting with the individual datastores consistent |
| 18:46.51 | Thaoky | yes, I already see that some code is redundant, not much, like GetCharacter(), but we'll see how things turn out |
| 18:46.59 | Thaoky | it can definitely be perfected |
| 18:47.24 | Torhal | I just hope you're not doing this for naught. I think many people are locked into libraries rather than client/server. |
| 18:47.34 | Torhal | And would addons that require these facilities bundle them? |
| 18:47.49 | Torhal | What happens when an addon has an older version than what's on the system? |
| 18:48.45 | Thaoky | distribution & versioning are indeed a concern |
| 18:49.22 | Torhal | I'd see about that before putting a bunch of work into a system that everyone will flee screaming from the thought of. |
| 18:50.03 | Thaoky | I'm not too worried honestly, I do it for me first, if others follow, fine, if I'm the only one to use them, it's ok too |
| 18:50.30 | Thaoky | I know the benefits I will get from using this approach :) |
| 18:51.14 | Torhal | nods. |
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| 19:06.45 | Zhinjio | nods. Thats really the ideal. |
| 19:06.53 | Zhinjio | if you're doing it because you will use it, perfect. |
| 19:07.01 | Zhinjio | anyone else can blow themselves if they don't see the value |
| 19:16.44 | Thaoky | if anything, it will be a major benefit for improvements I intend to make to the account sharing feature |
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| 19:35.06 | Zhinjio | am I here? |
| 19:35.07 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 19:35.20 | Torhal | I'm not sure. Try again. |
| 20:10.51 | Thaoky | I'm leaving, bye all |
| 20:26.16 | pompy1 | Torhal: Daenril, Korim, Engineer Sinbei |
| 20:26.18 | pompy1 | those |
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| 20:35.10 | Torhal | pompy: Those are the full names? |
| 20:35.23 | pompy | yup |
| 20:36.33 | Torhal | pompy: Added. |
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| 22:43.25 | pompy | Torhal: Barien, Miralisse |
| 22:43.39 | pompy | o damnit lol |
| 22:44.51 | Torhal | ? |
| 22:44.55 | Torhal | Oh, more? |
| 22:45.32 | Torhal | pompy: More names to add? |
| 22:46.24 | pompy | mhm |
| 22:46.54 | Torhal | Done. |
| 22:47.11 | pompy | yay |
| 22:47.28 | pompy | i forgot to add them to testenus.lua when i committed the addition to the trainer file, sigh haha |
| 22:47.31 | pompy | but i got it now |
| 22:52.33 | Torhal | Wewt |
| 23:31.02 | Torhal | Can I get a "Hell yeah!"? |
| 23:39.51 | BWMerlin | Hell no |