IRC log for #arl on 20090527

00:00.15TorhalOk, the line is there but info is not.
00:00.23pompymhm
00:00.28TorhalWhere is it acquired?
00:00.33pompya quest
00:00.39pompy'recipe of the kaldorei'
00:06.32aesirPompy are you looking at it witha  Horde character?
00:09.00pompyyup
00:09.20pompydoubt that'd matter, i can see other ally quests shit
00:11.01aesirIt's something to do with recipes that would fall under more than one filter.  So like I can make the tooltip acquire line get all blank and stuff on my Alliance Leatherworker when looking at the Kodo Hide bag.
00:12.06aesirI think it's a side-effect of the desire to have tooltip data match up with your character's faction.  So I wouldn't see a bunch of Horde trainers for every recipe my alliance character is interested in.
00:13.36pompybut the data is in teh +/- of the recipe
00:13.40pompyidk though
00:17.53Torhalpompy: You're Horde.
00:18.00TorhalAh, just read scrollback - confirmed
00:18.15TorhalI'll add a notification for that.
00:21.46pompykk
00:29.19pompyaesir: try to reproduce this lol http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/616-missing-minor-glyph/
00:29.27pompybecause it's most definitely in the database
00:30.17pompymaybe he scanned a inscription trainer lol
00:30.21pompyand that came up as missing
00:30.26pompybut he really didnt specify that
00:32.15pompycommented it
00:40.28pompyTorhal: in 'display options
00:40.29pompy'
00:40.33pompyi only see 'font dize'
00:40.35pompynot 'font'
00:40.37pompysize*
00:44.15TorhalRight. FOnt size.
00:44.24TorhalThe tooltip uses that to calculate how wide it should be.
00:47.04pompyo i was referring to "font face" earlier
00:47.08pompy~lart Torhal
00:47.08purlpulls out his louisville slugger and uses Torhal's head to break the homerun record
00:47.14pompylol
00:48.39Torhalpompy: I'mma code on your face!
00:48.45TorhalOk, check latest revision
00:48.53pompywooot
01:21.17aesirTipTac download is still broken on Curse/Curse Client/WoWAce/CurseForge
01:30.07pompyjus get it from wowi
01:41.03aesirI did that hours ago.
02:57.13TorhalFoo!
03:03.16TorhalAckis, Zhinjio: Bwah?
03:05.05pompywhat do u want from them?!
03:05.40Torhalpompy: Explanations! And stuff.
03:07.10pompylol
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03:42.19pompyfuckkk... the grand black war mammothe dropped in emalon10 and i rolled a 4
03:42.31pompyand shaman/dk shit drpoped and there was neither in there raid
03:51.07BWMerliniv seen that mount drop twice and both times ninja'd by the ML
04:01.17TorhalEither of you use IOP?
04:03.39Zhinjiowhat is it?
04:04.02TorhalInventory On Par.
04:05.17Zhinjiolooks it up
04:05.46Zhinjiooh yeah
04:05.48ZhinjioI used it for awhile
04:05.57ZhinjioI found it interesting, but ultimately useless
04:06.16ZhinjioI don't pvp, which is perhaps where it would have the most utility
04:06.24Zhinjioalso: memory pig
04:06.39TorhalI've been using it for like, two years. Yes, it's ultimately useless...but it lets me gauge myself with other folks.
04:06.47TorhalI just amde the mistake of looking at the code.
04:06.54Torhals/amde/made/
04:07.05ZhinjioI never did.
04:07.07Zhinjiougly?
04:07.08TorhalAnd now I see why it takes 4MiB or more.
04:07.15Zhinjioit did "feel" like a new programmer
04:07.44TorhalThere's a comment block that says "Local variables" and proceeds to dump a bunch of shit into the global namespace.
04:07.52TorhalTables everywhere, too.
04:08.05Zhinjiohehehehee
04:08.11TorhalSo now I'mma write a workalike.
04:08.16TorhalBecause I'm OCD like that.
04:08.54TorhalSpeaking of OCD: Why the FUCK are there 1278 lines of code that are only called ONCE at startup in addon:CreateFrame() in ARL?
04:09.03Torhaltwitches.
04:09.13ZhinjioI blame Ackis.
04:09.22TorhalAll the shit under it is used multiple times
04:09.22Zhinjioand, most likely, he will blame me.
04:09.30TorhalAnd you gotta wade through almost 1300 lines to get to it.
04:09.53TorhalWell, I'mma fix that shit. I already changed all teh faction babble lookups to happen once.
04:10.39TorhalMeh. Prioritize.
04:10.56TorhalI still have that garbage creation in LQT I need to track down.
04:11.31TorhalMeant to do that today, then got stuck tracking down the TipTac issue, then became obsessed with why the tooltip wouldn't maintain a fixed width...
04:11.36TorhalBlargh.
04:11.40TorhalZhinjio: WTB time.
04:14.00ZhinjioTorhal: if you manage to find a site that will sell you some, lemme know.
04:15.56TorhalZhinjio: I'mma bribe ckknight to tell me where one is.
04:16.55Zhinjiono shit
04:17.05Zhinjiohe's gotta have a hookup.
04:17.21Zhinjioalthough, its possible that he's an alien that doesn't sleep, and can warp time to bend to his will.
04:17.55ckknightwhat's all this, then?
04:18.07ckknighttime is expensive, Torhal + Zhinjio
04:18.12ckknightout of your price range, at least.
04:18.25Torhalckknight: So mean. Flaunting it like that.
04:18.41TorhalNo wonder your dishes ran away!
04:20.29ckknightprobably needed to slap em some more to keep em in place, amirite?
04:20.34ckknight...yea, I'm right
04:21.26TorhalHeh
04:21.55Zhinjioout of my price range? heh.
04:22.58ckknightto buy time, you have to fill out a contract with one of the lesser gods, exchanging services of one form or another for time added onto your life
04:23.02ckknightit's a pretty complex process
04:23.06ckknightbut it's kept me looking young
04:23.15ckknightprotip: I'm actually 130 years old
04:23.17Zhinjiono shit, junior.
04:23.20Zhinjioheh
04:24.00ckknighthow do you think I've written so many addons?
04:24.04ckknightno mere human could do that
04:24.40Torhalckknight: You're actually a collective of transcendental beings?
04:24.55ckknighteither that or a room full of monkeys, tapping away
04:25.05TorhalAha!
04:25.07ckknighttappa-tappa-tap
04:30.46Ackisahh a good 4-5 hour drive is always fun
04:32.44ckknightno it isn't
04:32.47ckknightI hate driving
04:33.08ckknightI've worked it out so that my work is only 5 minutes away, and Target is in-between
04:33.17Ackislol
04:33.18ckknightI've only used up half a tank of gas in the last 6 weeks
04:33.22Ackisi had to go home to my parents
04:33.40Ackisnephew and 2 nieces had first communion and confirmations today
04:33.45Zhinjionice
04:34.18TorhalAckis: The tooltip. It has solidified. That is all.
04:34.22Ackisyay
04:34.48Ackisi got about 10 arl related e-mails while I was on the road :P
04:35.10TorhalHad to add a min-width parameter to LibQTip to do it, but it's all good now - it even scales to the font size.
04:35.36Ackisare these arl specific things or just bugs you're finding w/ your lib brought on by arl?
04:35.46TorhalBoth.
04:36.00TorhalI've fixed about three bugs and added as many features because of ARL.
04:36.03TorhalHeh
04:36.14Ackislol
04:36.19Ackiscool and sorry?
04:36.40TorhalNah. Better that I found them while using the lib than fielding half-assed tickets,
04:36.53Ackisheh
04:37.33TorhalAnywho...gotta work in about 7 hours. Latahs.
04:37.43Zhinjiopeace
04:37.45Ackisnight
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04:47.26Ackistwo torhals?!?1
04:47.33aesirtwohals.
04:48.47aesirNow that everyone is here... TipTac v09.05.26.  That is all.
05:02.23pompyaesir: ping
05:02.29aesirhere
05:02.30Ackispompy: good work
05:04.37pompyAckis: thanks ;p
05:04.47pompyaesir: ARL Revision (ie: r1100):
05:04.48pompyr1908?
05:04.53pompy:P
05:05.32aesirLots of commits since then.
05:05.35pompyAckis: after ur find/replaced fucked things lol. my next commit fucked things lol.
05:05.41pompyand then i had to fix it again ;p
05:05.43Ackishehe
05:05.52pompyi learned about the repindex shit
05:05.55pompylol
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11:42.57TorhalPoopy?
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14:22.33Zhinjiog'morning Torhal
14:29.53aesirIf I see chat spam for "Duplicate entry" what do you need to know in the ticket?  Trainer?  Profession type?  Or just make a ticket entitled Duplicate Entry?
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14:54.22Zhinjiotrainer, which entry was duplicate (if it tells you)
15:24.11Ackisaesir: that should be all gone?
15:24.44aesirJust got it with a cooking trainer.  Should I just post the spam or do you need trainer name/ID etc.?
15:24.56aesirUsing current alpha version
15:27.01Ackisare there just two of them?
15:27.02Ackishttp://www.wowace.com/comments/31438-ackis-ackis-recipe-list-duplicate-entry-7745-acquire/
15:27.36aesirThose are the numbers.
15:28.06Ackiskk
15:36.44Ackisall fixed
15:47.03ZhinjioTorhal: ping
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17:10.08pompytheres no way cooking could of had duplicates
17:12.12Ackispompy: it wasn't cooking
17:12.22pompyenchanting was the one i "dry fixed"
17:12.23pompylol
17:12.32Ackisyah it was enchanting
17:12.33pompydamnit
17:12.57pompyit was only 2 i mnissed!
17:12.58pompyfuck u!
17:12.59pompylolll
17:13.07pompy:)
17:13.40pompy~lart Torhal
17:13.40purlresizes Torhal's terminal to 40x24
17:14.00Ackisi know
17:14.02Ackisyou did very good
17:14.17pompyOne thing is bad with ARL, the Updates are very fast... so i have only a short Time to Play WOW..*FG*..*Smile* thanks for your'e very good Support Drachenstern Ysera
17:14.19pompylol
17:23.38pompyso local addonversion = GetAddOnMetadata("AckisRecipeList", "Version")  .. wasnt really hard coded u said?
17:24.48Ackisno that was
17:25.10Ackiswas a my bad
17:29.25pompyheh
17:36.14pompyZhinjio: ping
18:17.38Zhinjioyo
18:17.39Zhinjiosup?
18:20.16Zhinjiopompy: pong
18:21.30pompyyou made allplayed right?
18:21.54Zhinjioallxp, allstats
18:22.00Zhinjionot sure what allplayed is
18:22.28pompybah, was thinkin wrong then hm
18:22.48pompyhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6158-AllPlayed.html
18:23.56Zhinjionope, thats not mine
18:24.04Zhinjioallxp is similar, but doesn't have as much displayed info
18:24.13Zhinjioand mine doesn't cross realms
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19:16.09pompyZhinjio: u in game and have fishing buddy loaded, (if u use it)?
19:28.24ZhinjioI am and do
19:30.55pompyput ur fishign pole on
19:31.22pompyand if u have a performance checking mod.. see if fishingbuddy is like jumping up in mb's and like how much cpu usage
19:32.36Zhinjionope, stable.
19:32.52pompywell how big is ur saved variables file for it? lol with the fish data n shit
19:32.59Zhinjioits #22 in my list, sitting at 858kb and stable.
19:33.06Zhinjiopretty large.
19:33.25pompyso is mine.. well start fishing if u havent already and check the performance
19:34.43Zhinjioevery fish caught is about a .05m change in size
19:35.59pompyyeah
19:36.19pompybut it wasnt really doin that for every fish caught.. while i was fishing its jumping that size every second
19:37.30ZhinjioI'm not seeing that.
19:37.53pompyit was using like 5% cpu too
19:39.35pompyfishingbuddy.lua savedvar is 68.3KB
19:58.04TorhalZhinjio: Ponglets
19:58.15Torhal~lart pompy
19:58.15purldumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on pompy
19:58.24Zhinjiohey man. um.
19:58.35TorhalC'mon, it was only 4 hours ago!
19:58.44Zhinjioyou have no idea
19:58.47TorhalHehe
19:59.22ZhinjioI think it was an SKG conversion thing
19:59.36Zhinjiobasically, if I do a menu with a submenu, the autohide stuff is just borked
19:59.59Zhinjiofrustrating as hell
19:59.59TorhalBorked?
20:00.04Zhinjioalright, so...
20:00.12Zhinjiotooltip1 parented to a button
20:00.21TorhalAckis, Zhinjio: ARLFrame.lua, line 3429 - I believe that's a bug.
20:00.42Zhinjiotooltip2 parented to a cell in tooltip1
20:00.54Torhalkk
20:00.58ZhinjioI have autohide in general set to 1
20:01.12Zhinjioif I hover over tooltip2, I try to disable autohide on tooltip1
20:01.17Zhinjiothat doesn't work
20:01.20Torhal?
20:01.21Zhinjio1 second later tooltip1 disappears
20:01.31TorhalHow are you disabling it?
20:01.35Zhinjio1 second after that tooltip2 disappears, even though I'm hovering over it
20:01.46Zhinjioautohidedelay set to 0
20:01.47Zhinjioor nil
20:01.49ZhinjioI tried them both
20:02.10ZhinjioI think tooltip2 reacts poorly to having its autohide "parent" nuked above it
20:03.47TorhalI'd have to look at the code.
20:04.47Zhinjionods.
20:05.00Zhinjioits making it hard to replace dewdrop
20:05.01Zhinjioheh
20:05.12ZhinjioI mean, I realize its not exactly designed to be a "menuing" system
20:05.16TorhalWhat repo?
20:05.23Zhinjioof SKG?
20:05.24TorhalYah, but it should be malleable enough to be one.
20:05.24Zhinjiouh
20:05.27Zhinjiodropdownmenu
20:05.32Torhalkk, grabbing.
20:06.06Zhinjiodo you have a toon that is a guild leader?
20:06.17TorhalNo
20:06.17Zhinjiolike a personal gbank toon?
20:06.19Zhinjioblah
20:06.27Zhinjioyou're going to have a hard time getting to that menu then
20:06.31Zhinjioshit
20:08.06TorhalZhinjio: What file/function?
20:08.21Zhinjiook, one sec
20:08.43ZhinjioSKG_List.lua
20:08.48Zhinjiostart at line 1352
20:09.02TorhalSKG_GUI_List.lua? :D
20:09.14Zhinjiosorry, yes
20:09.45Zhinjio1352 -> 1456
20:09.49Zhinjiothats one of the "double" menus
20:10.31Zhinjio1416 is an attempt to kill the autohide on the parent (whcih doesn't work)
20:11.04Zhinjiosorry, I'm really tired of looking at this, and tired in general. don't mean to be punchy
20:11.13TorhalYou're not using locals there, BTW
20:11.24TorhalpID, iA, pName = strsplit( "|", pl )
20:11.27TorhalGlobals
20:11.32TorhalANywho, looking
20:11.45Zhinjioguh
20:11.47Zhinjiothats not good
20:11.48Zhinjiothx
20:12.25Zhinjioscoping in this addon is completely fucked, btw
20:12.34ZhinjioI won't be fixing that until I rewrite the UI part of it
20:12.36Zhinjiocompletely
20:13.02TorhalAh, thought you started the layout from scratch and were going from the old with the port.
20:13.22Zhinjiowell, I have another branch that I was doing that with
20:13.28Zhinjiothis conversion is easier than that
20:13.37ZhinjioI'd rather this not take a year to complete
20:21.58TorhalOk: You have your button. Clicking that acquires menu1, and sets its hide to 1sec with altframe of the button.
20:22.08Zhinjioyes
20:22.32Torhal<PROTECTED>
20:22.44TorhalANd removes menu1's hide.
20:23.04Zhinjiothat is the attempt, yes
20:23.13TorhalHave you inserted debug prints?
20:23.25Zhinjioand print what, exactly?
20:23.35Torhal"Setting autohide on menu1" etc
20:23.46TorhalOrder of execution may not be as expected.
20:23.52Zhinjioaha
20:24.21Torhal"Entering handlerfunc - event is EVENT"
20:24.33Zhinjiook
20:24.37ZhinjioI can do that.
20:24.49ZhinjioI'll ping you back later today. I can't look at this right now
20:24.57Torhalkk
20:25.01Zhinjiothe baby thinks I am her personal jungle jim at the moment
20:25.05Zhinjiojungle gym
20:25.06TorhalOf course!
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21:15.13Jim-Bimwish me good luck
21:15.23Jim-BimI just opted in for a blizzcon ticket :P
21:15.45Jim-Bim@ http://starcraft2.ingame.de/kommentare.php?newsid=90866&s=82
21:32.28TorhalJim-Bim: Good luck :)
21:32.56Jim-Bimthanks
21:33.06Jim-Bimbut I don't know if I really want to get one :P
21:33.22Jim-Bimcause once I have one, I'll have to pay all the flights etc
21:34.37TorhalUgh
21:35.42Jim-Bimits quite expensive from germany and back
21:36.32TorhalI'm thinking that "quite" is an understatement.
21:37.07Jim-Bimtrue, but I won't have to pay for the ticket :P
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21:37.39TorhalHehe, this is true.
21:40.30Jim-Bimand it will be easier to explain the trip to my parents
21:41.13Jim-BimI'm still living at home, just turned 20 last month
21:42.08Jim-BimI think they wouldn't unterstand at all, if I buy a ticket by myself
21:42.41Jim-Bimbut then I can say "Hey I won that ticket, now I only have to go there..."
21:44.08Jim-Bimbut I guess they will still look at me with a "WTF" look...
21:45.27Jim-BimI don't care, cause I would pay the flights, can't wait until the ticket giveaway is over
21:48.34Torhal:D
21:48.53TorhalI do hope nobody is messing with ARLFrame.lua right now.
21:54.11pompywhy?
21:54.20Torhalpompy: I'm gutting the fuck out of it right now.
21:54.24pompyhaha
21:54.26TorhalWOuld be very messy to merge.
21:54.36pompyyeah i looked at teh code and, o man!
21:54.59TorhalI'm streamlining a few things, relocating others to make more sense.
21:55.27TorhalThere was 1276 lines of code that created/built/initialized the main frame.
21:55.43pompydang
21:55.51TorhalThese lines of code were only executed once, but were in the function that is called when the user has the frame open.
21:56.05Jim-Bimo rly?
21:56.11TorhalJim-Bim: Yah.
21:56.49Jim-Bimpunishes zhinjio for bad function calling!
21:57.17aesirWhat are you all DOING to MY ARL?  omfg I can hear her screaming.
21:57.48aesirpats ARL on the tummy. It's okay. They'll stop soon.
21:58.05pompy~lart aesir
21:58.05purlDoSes aesir
21:58.18TorhalJim-Bim: haha, Zhinjio blamed Ackis and said Ackis would blame him. He didn't mention you :)
21:58.48TorhalJim-Bim: It wasn't bad from an execution standpoint - It was basically this:
21:59.02Torhalif not frame then do 1276 lines of code end
21:59.16Torhalmade it a maintenance nightmare, though.
22:01.16pompyi used to a have a program that counted how many loc was source code and comments lol
22:01.34aesirbtw, Altoholic is awesome.  It lets me see which alts have which recipes in it's GUI.  Shows tip data telling me as well.  ARL is ofishally off the hook for that feature request that I was planning to write up.
22:02.02Torhalaesir: STFU. I'm adding it.
22:02.03Torhal:D
22:02.07aesirsorry random train of thought looking at the poll
22:02.07TorhalThe tip data, anyway.
22:03.01aesirI saw a tooltip that was *THIS* wide today.  I really should screenshot it next time and start discussing if it's TipTac, LQT/C, and/or TipHelper from norganna.
22:03.14aesirI mean it was H U G E.
22:03.53Torhalaesir: Which tip?
22:04.30aesirIt was a tip from ARL, but I can't tell if it's because I've got so many addons looking to mod tips.
22:04.30TorhalThe main ARL tooltip should be at a fixed width. At least, if you have LibQTip r99
22:04.43Torhalaesir: Nothing should be hooking LibQTip.
22:05.00aesirOk, I'll investigate tonight/tomorrow.
22:06.00aesirIn ARL, I've got two tips.  Which one is the LQT?  Acquire?  Or both?
22:08.26TorhalAcquire. The recipe tip is a regular GameTooltip.
22:09.00TorhalJim-Bim: Ok, finished with ARLFrame.lua for now.
22:09.00aesirIf the recipe/game tip is huge, does Acquire base it's width off of that?
22:09.08TorhalNo.
22:09.26TorhalThe acquire tip scales to the size of your font.
22:09.28aesirOk, I'll pay attention to it next time. I was trying to do something in game so didn't track it then.
22:09.53TorhalIf you have LQT with a revision lower then r99, there are some texts that can make it H U G E.
22:10.16aesirI've got r99-nolib.
22:10.19Torhalkk
22:10.28aesirbtw, I love it.  A no-libs lib.
22:11.12TorhalHrm.
22:11.20aesirI'll say it again, curse client has converted me. I didn't like it up until recently.  Now I just want to cuddle it and protect it.
22:11.26TorhalHaha
22:11.43TorhalJim-Bim: Look at InitializeFrame() in ARLFrame.lua
22:12.07Jim-BimI'm currently looking into it
22:12.11Torhalkk
22:13.22Jim-Bimyeah makes sense
22:13.24TorhalAlso, the faction name assignments were always being done, whether the frame existed or not.
22:13.31TorhalSo I moved them into there.
22:14.28TorhalBoth Ackis and Zhinjio said they were still learning when a lot of this was written, so I won't castrate them.
22:15.13TorhalThough I should - I spent all day at work wanting to fix that. :)
22:15.31Jim-Bimwhats your profession?
22:15.46aesirTorhal You're almost as bad as Tekkub criticizing other people's crap.  I think I'm going to lock you two in a room and see who comes out with a neatly turned piece of code.
22:15.48TorhalHeh. Cashier at Wal-Mart.
22:16.29Torhalaesir: Bah. I halk it up to some of the code being pre-clue and Ackis being pro-lazy after the fact.
22:16.35Jim-BimAnd while cashing in, you think about arl's code? thats nerdy :P
22:16.50TorhalJim-Bim: Not just ARL :)
22:17.14Torhalaesir: I think that's why he dragged me into this insanity :)
22:17.49aesirAh.  I'm not sure why he dragged me in.  It's not because I can write code anymore.
22:18.26Torhalaesir: I think he doesn't like you and wants you to lose your mind.
22:19.16Torhal:D
22:19.16aesirToo late.
22:19.17Torhalhaha
22:19.17TorhalAnywho: Going out to eat.
22:20.00Jim-Bimand I'm going to bed, its too late already
22:21.16pompyTorhal|Away: enjoy ;p
22:49.19BWMerlinTorhal all these changes you are making to the frames, what is the goal?
22:53.36pompyoptimize code readability
22:53.39pompyand what not
22:54.32BWMerlini understand the change about changing code so it is not 8 lines instead of 20 something
22:54.47BWMerlinless lines generally means faster loading, smaller size etc
23:44.53Ackisnew tooltip == sexy
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23:49.24Torhal|AwayAckis: Danke
23:49.36Ackisone "issue"
23:49.48Ackissomething that needs 450 skill, the 0 is being cut off a bitr
23:50.02TorhalBWMerlin: I didn't change anything about the frames. I moved about 1300 lines of code that is executed once out of a function that's executed every time that frame is opened.
23:50.19TorhalAckis: Yes, that's a library issue I haven't tracked down yet.
23:50.26AckisTorhal: that code is in an if statement :P
23:50.59TorhalAckis: Yes, it is. And since it's only executed once, it needs to be in its own place so the rest of it isn't a maintainability nightmare :)
23:51.02Ackisbtw update changelog.txt pls
23:51.12TorhalAckis: kk
23:51.14Ackisyah I agree there :P but it wasn't a performance thing
23:51.27TorhalAckis: No, that wasn't
23:51.31TorhalIt was just annoying.
23:52.13TorhalThe only thing I really did performance-wise was allocating the Babble translations for Horde, Alliance, and Neutral exactly one time.
23:52.44TorhalWell, and the Honor Hold/Thrallmar translations
23:52.55TorhalThose were being done every time the frame was opened. Now they're only done when it's built.
23:53.21Ackiswell maybe you could change factions... ... ...
23:53.39TorhalYah. My Orc Warlock always wanted to be in the Alliance.
23:53.42Torhal:P

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