| 00:12.12 | Torhal | Kaelten: ^^ |
| 00:12.21 | Torhal | pompy: I told it no. |
| 00:13.52 | ckknight | please enter http://www.wowace.com/contests/1-test-contest/ |
| 00:35.57 | aesir | Please see if you can view http://www.wowace.com/contests/1-test-contest/entries/10-aesir-rising/ |
| 00:36.06 | aesir | Not a site admin. Just anyone else. |
| 00:37.20 | aesir | Because I think if I wanted mess around, I would try to see if I could find a ../1-ckknight/ and just keep brute forcing until I picked up a valid entry# and username URL |
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| 00:45.18 | ckknight | aesir: you'll be able to see others' entries once the contest closes. |
| 00:45.57 | aesir | Understood. What about entries during the contest, where (for example) I wanted to see what others submitted, picked a good response because I couldn't figure out one for myself. |
| 00:46.03 | Torhal | ckknight: I entered. |
| 00:46.16 | ckknight | thanks |
| 00:46.26 | ckknight | oh dear god, Torhal |
| 00:46.31 | Torhal | cackles. |
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| 00:49.44 | aesir | I reported the contest. |
| 00:50.51 | Torhal | ? |
| 00:51.06 | aesir | There was a link "Report contest". I used it. |
| 00:51.44 | Torhal | Heh |
| 00:53.04 | ckknight | hehe, aesir |
| 00:53.26 | ckknight | good stuff, though |
| 00:53.32 | ckknight | for the real contests, we'll be clear |
| 00:53.39 | ckknight | hoping to launch those tomorrow |
| 00:53.55 | Torhal | ckknight: I was hoping for something along the lines of what you said out of that. |
| 00:53.56 | Torhal | :D |
| 00:54.09 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 00:54.33 | aesir | I'm not worried about contest rules. I was just trying to be funneh. What I am worried about is the clear URL entry#+username. So... Torhal, can you view this link: http://www.wowace.com/contests/1-test-contest/entries/10-aesir-rising/ |
| 00:54.46 | ckknight | he can't |
| 00:54.47 | Torhal | No |
| 00:54.49 | ckknight | I can |
| 00:55.03 | ckknight | def can_view(self, user=local('user')): |
| 00:55.04 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.08 | aesir | I figure admin types can, but cool. If it's blocked for others that works. |
| 00:55.59 | ckknight | people who can manage contests (admins only, not even moderators) can see |
| 00:56.06 | ckknight | as soon as the close date is passed, everyone can see |
| 00:57.23 | aesir | Well, I hope they make a splash. Contests are fun. |
| 00:57.36 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:57.41 | ckknight | and the prize is blizzcon tickets |
| 00:57.46 | ckknight | for the next 3 contests |
| 00:57.53 | aesir | That'll make a splash. |
| 01:11.24 | aesir | Pity I just create new alts every couple of months. This almost makes me want to level a character to 80 and start grinding heroics. It's all in the name. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45868 |
| 01:21.36 | Torhal | aesir: Heh |
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| 01:23.01 | aesir | Seriously. I may need to actually focus on leveling one character. Is that how most people play? Cause that "Create New Character" button is my fav. |
| 01:23.41 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:23.43 | ckknight | I used to be an altoholic |
| 01:23.45 | ckknight | I've stuck to my paladin for now |
| 01:23.47 | ckknight | at lvl 62 |
| 01:25.19 | Torhal | This library project-versioning shit has me all...blech. |
| 01:25.42 | Torhal | Do I call it LibQTipClick-2, 2.0, or 1.1? |
| 01:26.21 | Torhal | It's not a completely different lib, but it will break people's callback handlers. |
| 01:26.22 | aesir | I think you should call it LibQTip. Incorporate QTipClick stuff, and figure out how to make it so all the 'old' functions work within the 'new' functions. |
| 01:27.19 | Torhal | The whole reason it's a separate lib is that not everyone wants nor needs the clickable stuff in every project, so the rest is just bloat. |
| 01:27.35 | Torhal | The only reason the scrollbars are in the core is because that was the only feasible way to do it. |
| 01:28.03 | aesir | Why would it be bloat if it's not getting called? |
| 01:28.26 | Torhal | It's still being loaded into memory - for every AddOn which uses it. |
| 01:28.44 | Torhal | The bigger it is, the longer it takes to load, and people get touchy when WoW takes longer to load. |
| 01:28.55 | aesir | You're illustrating why, if I ever do buckle down and try to write a decent addon, I won't use a library. |
| 01:29.24 | Torhal | The key is using the right library, if you don't feel like re-inventing the wheel. |
| 01:29.40 | Torhal | The whole purpose of libraries is to save memory overall, and to make writing addons easier. |
| 01:29.58 | aesir | The key is having a dev community that doesn't actively try to subvert one of the great benefits of using libraries. |
| 01:30.02 | Torhal | If there are 20 addons that implement their own version of LibQTip, that's a lot of wasted memory when they could all share a common implementation |
| 01:30.24 | Torhal | Who's subverting? |
| 01:30.49 | aesir | Every addon author that starts a conversation about disembedded libs with, "Why would you want to?" |
| 01:31.09 | Torhal | Ah |
| 01:31.33 | aesir | then the versioning we see in a lot of popular libs. Really, LibThisAndThat-1.0? wtf. |
| 01:32.24 | Torhal | I didn't realize how silly having a version attached to a project was when I started it. |
| 01:32.32 | Torhal | I mean, 1.0 is the _initial_ commit. |
| 01:32.33 | aesir | I'm not saying it's easy to develop a lib. But the idea is that the work is done up front by the lib maintainer(s) to ensure that everyone *other* than the lib author benefits from reusability and can avoid versioning issues. |
| 01:33.52 | Torhal | Well, there are a great many people who (whether they have a clue or not) view Tablet as an insanely bloated library because it has a bunch of stuff in it that they'll probably never use. |
| 01:34.05 | Torhal | That's an example. |
| 01:34.59 | Torhal | I use it in Revelation because it works. But I don't use half the shit it has in it, and unless you're disembedding, loading that puppy 30 times takes awhile. |
| 01:35.28 | aesir | hindsight is 20/20, so I won't argue whether there are functions rarely used in a given lib, but I will suggest that you will end up with a lot more bloat (de facto, in practice) when a given user has to load LibTablet as well as it's slimmer replacement, because not every Tablet based addon author is going to convert to Tablet 2.0. |
| 01:36.45 | Torhal | I don't think the whole bloat thing would be as much of an issue if everyone would support disembedding instead of treating the people who want to do it as lepers. |
| 01:36.47 | aesir | On my system: Ace2. Ace3. Ace3? Because it was going to be more efficient and more clearly defined lib than Ace2. Great. So now I run both. |
| 01:37.21 | Torhal | You run both because Ace2 wasn't abandoned. |
| 01:37.26 | aesir | Oh, 5 addons that use their own flavors of Astrolabe. |
| 01:37.52 | ckknight | Torhal: I know the trick |
| 01:37.56 | ckknight | you write all the docs first |
| 01:37.57 | ckknight | get a good API |
| 01:38.01 | ckknight | then write your code to match it |
| 01:38.05 | ckknight | that's 1.0 |
| 01:38.22 | aesir | ckknight, this is all your fault anyway. I got two words for you: Rock. |
| 01:38.26 | ckknight | what? |
| 01:38.27 | aesir | :p |
| 01:38.36 | ckknight | how is this my fault? |
| 01:38.45 | aesir | I'm laughing, you should be too. |
| 01:38.47 | Torhal | Yah, but every time you tag the library you're upping the version while the Project is still named 1.0 |
| 01:38.55 | Torhal | It seems silly. |
| 01:39.09 | ckknight | yea, it becomes 1.0.50 |
| 01:39.10 | ckknight | or whatever |
| 01:39.14 | Torhal | So I started tagging LibQTip by revision |
| 01:39.20 | Torhal | LibQTip-1.0 r72 |
| 01:39.28 | Torhal | That makes more sense. |
| 01:39.36 | Torhal | But the .0 still bothers me :) |
| 01:40.25 | aesir | Why are you versioning it like that? Is it really too much to have just LibQTip and then you do some funky stuff internally, entirely transparent to past and future users of the library, so that they can use your lib as a black box? |
| 01:40.30 | Torhal | And I see, for example, WindowLib-1.1 |
| 01:40.56 | Torhal | What ever happened to WindowLib-1.0, and what made Mikk decide to up the project name by one maintenance version? |
| 01:41.37 | Torhal | aesir: There's a point where "funky stuff" to maintain backward-compatibility severely affects performance. |
| 01:42.12 | Torhal | And with my changes to LibQTipClick, there is no way to maintain it because the callback handler code has changed as far as the argument sequence goes. |
| 01:42.14 | aesir | Compared to having it separated in a new library? |
| 01:42.41 | aesir | If it can't be done, it can't be done. I"m arguing for blue skies. |
| 01:42.50 | Torhal | In that case, there will only be extra memory used since there will be two versions, each in its own sandbox, loaded. |
| 01:42.51 | aesir | Really just an academic argument |
| 01:49.41 | Ackis | bah I didn't get a murloc gladiator |
| 01:50.54 | Torhal | ckknight: I'm actually wondering if I could just get away with sending a PM to the four authors who are using LibQTipClick letting them know to change their callbacks, rather than making a new project. |
| 01:50.56 | Torhal | Heh |
| 01:50.58 | Torhal | Ackis: Aww |
| 01:51.12 | ckknight | you could if you can get away with it. |
| 01:51.28 | Torhal | That was...cryptic :) |
| 01:52.55 | Torhal | Ackis: The new QTC supports mouse button differentiation. |
| 01:53.19 | aesir | Oh oh tell him to change his callbacks! |
| 01:53.27 | Torhal | I can do that |
| 01:53.32 | aesir | lol |
| 01:54.55 | Ackis | what's a callback? |
| 01:55.11 | Torhal | In ARL it's HandleTTClick() |
| 01:59.17 | Torhal | Fuck it. There are four projects using it that I _know_ of. There may very well be 100 out in the wild. |
| 01:59.27 | Torhal | I should be considerate and make a new project, |
| 02:03.09 | ckknight | 1.1 amirite? |
| 02:03.16 | aesir | I predict that in the near future, I'll going to grow my Qtip library collection by 50%. |
| 02:03.34 | Torhal | Yah, it's not a complete rewrite but it does break the callback API. |
| 02:04.22 | Torhal | aesir: Bah. Unless you're running completely disembedded, you may already be loading LibQTip 20 times when WoW starts. |
| 02:04.56 | Torhal | I'm seeing a bunch of AddOns on WoWI that use it and aren't accounted for here. |
| 02:05.08 | Torhal | And they don't disembed :) |
| 02:05.28 | aesir | My WoWI sourced stuff has dwindled. |
| 02:05.48 | Torhal | Kaelten: Make CC 4.0 detect libs that are no longer in use :P |
| 02:06.43 | ckknight | Torhal: when you release 1.1 or 2.0 or whatever, put a notice in your 1.0 description pointing to the new project, describe what changed and why |
| 02:07.32 | Torhal | Aye, planned on it. I'mma go with 1.1 since it's not a complete rewrite, and honestly, it's the first I've actually worked on the lib since I released the proof-of-concept back in December. |
| 02:34.38 | Torhal | ckknight: Terminology quiz! LibQTipClick uses LibQTip, so LibQTip is a subset amirite? |
| 02:34.51 | ckknight | no |
| 02:35.10 | Torhal | So I was right in the original description when I called it a superset. |
| 02:35.26 | ckknight | of {LibQTipClick, LibQTip}, {LibQTip} is a subset |
| 02:35.46 | ckknight | I would say it is an addition onto LibQTip |
| 02:36.03 | Torhal | True. |
| 02:37.16 | Torhal | Now, to figure out how to use git. |
| 02:37.18 | Torhal | :D |
| 02:55.59 | aesir | Ackis: Is the output from scanning in the format you need for ticket creation purposes? Do you need trainer name/ID or the name of the profession? See example: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/595-inscription-recipe-skill-level-different/ |
| 02:59.54 | pompy | aesir: thats a blizz issue |
| 03:00.24 | aesir | As in, the API function he's using is giving back wrong data? |
| 03:00.53 | pompy | um? idk go scan the inscript trainer in dalaran, then one in org/sw |
| 03:02.35 | aesir | Let me start over: The scan dumps in chat used to include things like trainer name and ID. Do we need that data still? Or is it safe for me to just copy/paste the text in the new popups? |
| 03:03.01 | pompy | they do inlcude that? |
| 03:03.09 | aesir | Not this one. |
| 03:03.11 | pompy | but with the skill level diff thing, i guess it doesnt |
| 03:03.15 | pompy | for missing/extra |
| 03:03.15 | pompy | yeah |
| 03:03.25 | pompy | thats bc |
| 03:03.30 | pompy | its the profession in general |
| 03:03.32 | pompy | not a trainer |
| 03:04.26 | aesir | Great. |
| 03:04.53 | pompy | but the issue is.. |
| 03:05.03 | pompy | if u use an older arl ver b4 i commited the skil level diff |
| 03:05.08 | pompy | scan teh dal inscrip trainer |
| 03:05.13 | pompy | and look at the output |
| 03:05.18 | pompy | then scn the org one |
| 03:05.21 | pompy | and look at teh output |
| 03:05.25 | pompy | notice teh difference |
| 03:06.26 | aesir | I don't have chars that can do that test. So I'll take your word that there's a blizz issue. Do I need to flag that ticket as invalid? |
| 03:07.56 | pompy | o u cant go to dalaran? |
| 03:08.18 | pompy | yeah flag it as invalid |
| 03:09.12 | aesir | I've a lot a low level alts. One Artisan level 50 leatherworker and master enchanter are about as high as I got so far. |
| 03:09.36 | aesir | My scribe is level 10. Hangs out in Stormwind. |
| 03:10.06 | aesir | It'll take a while for her to get to places like outland and northrend. |
| 03:10.13 | pompy | u dotn need specific profs on a char to do these tests. |
| 03:10.16 | pompy | but |
| 03:10.22 | pompy | scan an in=script trainer in sw |
| 03:10.31 | pompy | that should work |
| 03:10.41 | pompy | basically |
| 03:11.01 | aesir | I did. That's where that output came from. So I think I am not understanding the issue- but that's ok. I'll flag it as invalid. |
| 03:11.06 | pompy | the inscription trainer in dal says the trainer level of mystic tome is 85.. the inscription trainer in org says trainer level is 110 |
| 03:11.17 | aesir | oh that's bad. |
| 03:11.21 | pompy | yeah |
| 03:11.35 | aesir | I looked at the recipe on the trainer, and the SW numbers were correct. |
| 03:11.57 | pompy | hmm |
| 03:12.44 | aesir | so, e.g., Mystic Tome really did require a skill level of 110, at least if I were (and I did just now) train it through that specific NPC. |
| 03:13.09 | pompy | did u scan that npc? |
| 03:13.59 | aesir | Yes, the reason I opened the ticket was because I hit 110 skill level, ran to that SW Inscription NPC trainer, and ARL popped up the exceptions... Then I triained all the 110 level recipes. |
| 03:14.44 | pompy | it told u what trainer level for mysitic tome? |
| 03:14.59 | aesir | http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/595-inscription-recipe-skill-level-different/ |
| 03:15.00 | aesir | Yes |
| 03:15.29 | aesir | Mystic Tome was not trainable for my character at skill level 105. It was at 110. And that jibes with the output from ARL's scan. |
| 03:16.45 | pompy | yeah, sw/org same thing... |
| 03:16.54 | pompy | so basically they messed up with the nr ones |
| 03:17.07 | pompy | that seems to be listed as needing 85 |
| 03:18.14 | aesir | Neat. I guess I should try to get my chars to northrend trainers and see if I can get recipes earlier than they're supposed to. |
| 03:18.22 | pompy | lol |
| 03:18.30 | pompy | eh |
| 03:20.04 | aesir | I currently run 7 chars, representing each profession. They're all level-capped until I get them all from level 15-20 up to level 35. Getting a free boost of 25 skill points worth of recipes for each would be huge. Especially for my enchanter which pretty much funds all their profession training. |
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| 07:38.47 | aesir | Torhal: When did you up TipClick1.1? |
| 07:48.28 | Torhal | aesir: A bit over an hour ago. |
| 07:50.05 | aesir | Might have issues. Investigating now. Curse Client update ARL r1868-nolib did this: Updated ARL (GOOD), failed to download LibQTipClick-1.1 (BAD) failed to remove LibQTipClick-1.0 (on my system, only ARL used it) (BAD), and I can't find the project page for TipClick 1.0 on wowace/curseforge. I question whether addons using 1.0 are hosed now, for disembedded installs. |
| 07:51.00 | aesir | scratch that last. I see 1.0 |
| 07:51.17 | aesir | argh, no I don't. |
| 07:54.57 | Torhal | aesir: No, they're not hosed. And I told Kaelten that CC 4.0 needs to detect if libs are no longer needed, because 3.0 doesn't |
| 07:55.13 | aesir | jUst weird. I do a Search on 'click' and only 1.1 comes up. |
| 07:55.32 | Torhal | If you click on Projects from the web page, select "Abandoned" from the dropdown, and then click Search, you'll see it |
| 07:55.40 | aesir | Only mentioned the libs thing because when I uninstall some addons, it does seem to uninstall it's libs. But I'll take your word for it. |
| 07:56.07 | Torhal | Well, it might....but if it does it's flaky. |
| 07:59.02 | aesir | Is ARL still using click 1.0? |
| 08:00.32 | aesir | I take it from release notes it's not. But it shows up as a reverse relation for 1.0, and maybe that's why CC didn't remove it |
| 08:03.19 | Torhal | Oh, yeah. That's probably why. It won't be fixed until ARL is tagged again. |
| 08:04.22 | aesir | ok, I need to remember that sentence for when I see stuff like this. Tagging has an impact on CC. Got it. |
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| 13:19.16 | Zhinjio | g'mornin' |
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| 13:44.53 | Zhinjio | g'morning, ck |
| 14:11.57 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Morning. |
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| 15:44.34 | AckisWork | http://beta.wowace.com/projects/arl/ damn that looks good |
| 15:50.32 | ckknight | AckisWork: I like to think so |
| 15:50.34 | ckknight | simple and clean |
| 15:50.48 | Torhal | The poll is cropped on the right for me. |
| 15:51.11 | ckknight | right. |
| 15:51.17 | ckknight | as it's supposed to be |
| 15:51.21 | ckknight | only so much data can be shown |
| 15:51.30 | Torhal | So, Ackis is a douche? |
| 15:51.38 | ckknight | and making the height of the polls variable would look bad |
| 15:51.50 | ckknight | so instead, they're the same height, all look the same except for their width |
| 15:51.53 | AckisWork | ckknight: can you make it go ... when it gets cropped? |
| 15:51.54 | ckknight | and if you want more info, hover over the bar |
| 15:52.02 | ckknight | AckisWork: I might be able to. |
| 15:52.17 | Torhal | Hover over what bar? |
| 15:53.04 | AckisWork | two other suggestions: the wiki ToC is gone, is that coming back? I found that useful tbh, and secondly the wiki lists still look like they have too much space in between them. |
| 15:53.35 | ckknight | Torhal: the poll bars |
| 15:54.00 | Torhal | Only bar I see says "Are you sad..." |
| 15:54.03 | ckknight | AckisWork: your ToC is gone, odd |
| 15:54.04 | Torhal | And hovering does nothing. |
| 15:54.15 | ckknight | Torhal: slightly lower |
| 15:54.18 | ckknight | on the actual poll. |
| 15:54.36 | Torhal | I'm moving my mouse over the entire poll. Nada. |
| 15:54.51 | ckknight | what browser are you using? |
| 15:55.05 | Torhal | Firefox 3.0.10 |
| 15:55.21 | ckknight | so hovering over "65.6% - No, I never used it." just doesn't do anything? |
| 15:55.34 | AckisWork | Torhal: when you hover over it, it pops up like a tooltip |
| 15:55.39 | Torhal | I don't see a percentage |
| 15:55.41 | AckisWork | you know what tooltips are right? ;) |
| 15:55.50 | Torhal | AckisWork: Wut's dem? |
| 15:55.53 | Torhal | I get no tooltip. |
| 15:55.57 | ckknight | wtf |
| 15:56.05 | ckknight | how can you not see a percentage |
| 15:56.06 | ckknight | ? |
| 15:56.08 | ckknight | Torhal: take a screenshot. |
| 15:56.20 | AckisWork | ckknight: it works for me albeit slightly slow |
| 15:56.31 | ckknight | it's just title="stuff", AckisWork |
| 15:58.13 | AckisWork | odd |
| 15:59.32 | Torhal | Bah. I have no idea where to send the screenshot. I don't feel like signing up for one of the image hosting sites right now :P |
| 16:01.26 | ckknight | tinypic.com |
| 16:01.28 | Torhal | ckknight: Ok, I made a ticket on that ARL page and put the screenshot there |
| 16:01.30 | Torhal | Heh |
| 16:01.31 | ckknight | lol |
| 16:01.48 | Torhal | Thankye - I'll use that next time. |
| 16:01.49 | ckknight | link |
| 16:02.18 | Torhal | http://beta.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/598-screenshottage/ |
| 16:02.21 | Torhal | I don't see the screenshot |
| 16:02.23 | Torhal | Bah |
| 16:04.48 | Torhal | And Konqueror displays it fine. |
| 16:04.54 | Torhal | Not truncated. |
| 16:04.58 | Torhal | The text wraps. |
| 17:19.51 | Zhinjio | the toc isn't gone. its just on the bottom of the right hand column |
| 17:19.58 | Zhinjio | but thats a useless placement afaic. |
| 17:20.35 | ckknight | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.test:5000/projects/arl/ |
| 17:21.34 | Zhinjio | oh, didn't know you were talking about test |
| 17:25.21 | AckisWork | ckknight: can't find the server... is it wowace.test? |
| 17:27.13 | Zhinjio | yeah, I couldn't either. |
| 17:27.41 | Zhinjio | How're you, Ackis? |
| 17:28.04 | AckisWork | heya Zhinjio good... busy with all the shit as usual |
| 17:28.32 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 17:28.35 | Zhinjio | likewise |
| 17:28.57 | Zhinjio | just released a major revision in SKG with different security. I am expecting a mess of tickets over the next week or so |
| 17:29.00 | AckisWork | you has a beautiful baby however :) |
| 17:29.04 | AckisWork | heh |
| 17:32.57 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 17:33.12 | Zhinjio | AckisWork: do you know how to assign a ticket to a milestone? |
| 17:33.44 | Zhinjio | or ck? |
| 17:34.54 | Zhinjio | nm, I got it |
| 17:35.30 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Yola |
| 17:37.39 | Zhinjio | sup Torhal |
| 17:37.55 | Torhal | Not too much. Yourself? |
| 17:37.56 | Zhinjio | don't suppose you wanna redo all my dewdrops/tablets in SKG to use libqtip, do you? |
| 17:37.58 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 17:38.10 | Torhal | dances. |
| 17:38.28 | Torhal | Since you put it that way, I'm assuming you have roughly 3.267 million of them. |
| 17:41.06 | Zhinjio | nope, probably 6 or so. |
| 17:41.15 | Zhinjio | a couple are just stupidly complex though |
| 17:41.22 | Zhinjio | and I'm not sure of any way to get rid of the complexity |
| 17:41.30 | Zhinjio | the latest patch actually removed 3 of them |
| 17:41.44 | Zhinjio | I'm debating just doing them with the default UIDROPDOWN stuff |
| 17:41.50 | Zhinjio | or libqtipclick |
| 17:41.59 | Zhinjio | since they are all menus and need clickability |
| 17:42.23 | Torhal | I released LibQTipClick-1.1, btw |
| 17:43.05 | AckisWork | Torhal: does ARL work with 1.1? |
| 17:43.19 | Torhal | AckisWork: Yah, committed it about 9 hours ago |
| 17:43.23 | AckisWork | w00t |
| 17:43.47 | Torhal | So now you can do more crazy shit since it recognizes which mousebutton you use |
| 17:58.45 | *** mode/#arl [+v pompy] by ChanServ |
| 17:58.56 | pompy | como esta betches |
| 17:59.13 | Torhal | pompy: betches? |
| 17:59.28 | pompy | bitches == betches? lol |
| 17:59.44 | Torhal | makes preparations to eBay pompy. |
| 18:00.00 | pompy | :( |
| 18:01.10 | pompy | what the hell lol. for like 10 hours now, the steam servers have been to busy to handle my request |
| 18:01.27 | pompy | "please try again in a few minutes" .. its been 10 hours |
| 18:03.27 | Torhal | ckknight: Bah. I didn't realize that setting LibQTip-1.0 as abandoned would make me lose 1.3 points per day :P |
| 18:03.49 | Torhal | It's still being used at this point. Owell, set it back to Beta. |
| 18:09.19 | Torhal | Err, LibQTipClick-1.0 |
| 18:13.02 | pompy | AckisWork: in one of teh tooltips in arl, is the 'obtained by' list truncuated? |
| 18:26.52 | ckknight | Torhal: set it to mature. |
| 18:27.28 | ckknight | AckisWork: whoops |
| 18:27.34 | ckknight | http://beta.wowace.com/projects/arl/ |
| 18:28.22 | ckknight | AckisWork: check the poll |
| 18:29.08 | AckisWork | nice |
| 18:29.20 | Torhal | ckknight: Danke |
| 18:29.22 | AckisWork | it would be better if you could add a bit of whitespace between the last char and the border |
| 18:29.23 | ckknight | Torhal: wth: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/598-screenshottage/ |
| 18:29.25 | AckisWork | pompy: wot/ |
| 18:29.25 | ckknight | no image. |
| 18:29.50 | Torhal | Sumbiatch |
| 18:30.28 | Torhal | I bet I know why: File extension is .jpeg |
| 18:30.51 | pompy | AckisWork: like the tooltip where it says who teaches you the item and shit? .. |
| 18:31.19 | pompy | does it show only a certain amount of npcs or whatever instead of all? |
| 18:31.24 | AckisWork | gimme screenshot sweety |
| 18:32.52 | Torhal | ckknight: Heh. It won't let me upload. It clears the edit box when I hit Upload then reloads the page with "This field is required" in red. |
| 18:33.00 | ckknight | hmm |
| 18:33.07 | ckknight | lemme check it out |
| 18:33.26 | pompy | AckisWork: well u can jus see the images u put on the project page |
| 18:33.32 | pompy | where it says 'obtained from:" |
| 18:33.34 | pompy | that list |
| 18:34.17 | ckknight | hmm |
| 18:34.19 | ckknight | that is a bug |
| 18:36.47 | pompy | AckisWork: im just wondering if that list gets truncated or shows them all because, when im all done scanning the trainers and shit and have all the traineracquire in there, there can be like 27 or so trainers listed for a recipe |
| 18:40.07 | ckknight | whoops, Torhal |
| 18:40.07 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.39 | Torhal | WTF? My screenshot? |
| 18:42.44 | Torhal | ckknight: I did notice that it briefly shows what appears to be the correct rendering, then "flattens" the box making the right side abruptly truncate. |
| 18:53.36 | AckisWork | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ackis/Previous_Guilds |
| 18:56.12 | pompy | lol |
| 18:56.37 | pompy | you guild/server hopper! |
| 18:58.36 | AckisWork | this is since wow came out my friend :P |
| 18:58.44 | pompy | ;) |
| 18:58.50 | pompy | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Pomp all i got lol |
| 18:58.53 | pompy | gotta update thjat |
| 18:59.50 | AckisWork | mine has a lot of shit on it |
| 18:59.59 | pompy | yes it does |
| 18:59.59 | pompy | lol |
| 19:04.47 | AckisWork | :P |
| 19:17.56 | Torhal | Haha |
| 19:17.59 | Torhal | "they were all terrible, and well sucked hard core. " |
| 19:18.28 | AckisWork | dude I got kicked from a guild there for calling an officer an idiot for stating that holy priests don't need +hit |
| 19:18.40 | Torhal | Haha |
| 19:18.52 | pompy | ha |
| 19:22.43 | pompy | Torhal: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/598-screenshottage/ ? lol |
| 19:35.01 | Torhal | I was posting a ticket on beta.wowace.com with an image. The image didn't attach for some reason. |
| 19:35.07 | Torhal | I dunno why it's on the regular site as well. |
| 19:35.14 | Torhal | They're supposed to be separate. |
| 19:37.06 | pompy | whens the relationships for arl guna be updated with the new lib of urs? |
| 19:41.53 | ckknight | Torhal: they're not actually separate. |
| 19:41.56 | ckknight | same db. |
| 19:42.06 | ckknight | I'm getting it so that file uploads and all work on the beta site |
| 19:42.14 | Torhal | Wewt |
| 19:42.33 | Torhal | For hilarity: http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2009/05/civilized_women_have_larger_pe.php |
| 20:08.49 | pompy | damnit ATSW needs to stop like "covering the whole screen" with its frame |
| 20:13.33 | ckknight | success, Torhal |
| 20:13.33 | ckknight | http://beta.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/598-screenshottage/ |
| 20:13.37 | ckknight | cookie |
| 20:15.33 | pompy | ckknight 5 minutes ago None (.. on the current wowace lol.) |
| 20:15.45 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 20:15.47 | ckknight | don't mind that |
| 20:15.53 | ckknight | I do a whole translation system thing now |
| 20:15.59 | ckknight | let's see what it stores as: |
| 20:16.42 | Torhal | ckknight: Uploaded |
| 20:16.48 | ckknight | u'm["Added attachment %(attachment)s", {"attachment": "Screenie.jpg"}]' |
| 20:16.52 | ckknight | m for markup |
| 20:16.55 | ckknight | then a JSON object |
| 20:17.02 | ckknight | well, a JSON list |
| 20:17.28 | ckknight | it's a list of two items, first is a string (which will be wrapped in a localization thing) |
| 20:17.53 | ckknight | second is a JSON object, that will turn into a python dict, which will be used to format the initial LazyTranslationString |
| 20:17.57 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 20:18.51 | ckknight | eep, Torhal |
| 20:18.54 | ckknight | what version of Firefox? |
| 20:20.12 | ckknight | reproduced |
| 20:29.44 | ckknight | Torhal: fixed |
| 20:40.10 | Torhal | ckknight: :D |
| 22:20.57 | *** join/#arl BWMerlin (n=chatzill@58.174.148.250) |
| 22:42.16 | BWMerlin | is updating ARL with missing recipes. wrong skill lvl's etc easy? |
| 22:44.13 | pompy | takes a while |
| 22:46.44 | BWMerlin | was just wondering if it was something I could do to help out |