| 01:44.29 | BulletCatcher | catay, I hear that the leaguesunited/serverconfig system doesn't fit well with the way you run your server. |
| 01:44.32 | BulletCatcher | I just want to point out that it doesn't really work with mine either, but (for me, at least) the two systems can coexist until I find the time to integrate them. |
| 01:44.37 | BulletCatcher | To me, it is more important to maintain the same setup on all of the league servers than to have it all work with my personal way of managing multiple game servers. |
| 02:04.37 | macsforme | I have put substantial effort into tracking down authorship and licensing information on those maps... HiX is from the BZFlag repository, but no information on the others has been forthcoming yet |
| 02:06.27 | macsforme | if authors were to come forward and object to our method of distribution, we would have to plan to comply with any takedown notices |
| 02:11.14 | macsforme | regarding the LU.DEV issue, my impression was that our "developers" are people responsible for the league infrastructure; for example, bzion developers, the web site operator, and match server operators |
| 02:15.50 | macsforme | if this is indeed the purpose of that group, it makes sense to me that they should have an appropriate set of elevated permissions on match servers; for example, the way it was before, with the same permissions as admins, but hidden so people don't think they're someone to complain to about behavior |
| 02:16.15 | macsforme | or at the very least, being able to chat in the admin channel |
| 02:17.48 | macsforme | if the purpose of that group is other than what I thought, then it seems that server operators should be put into another group where they have some permissions in consideration of the service they provide |
| 02:21.00 | macsforme | blast007: can I send you the updated conversations data and have you try to fix them? I believe if conversations/messages with a date prior to the launch date are dropped, you can probably insert these and there shouldn't be any conflicts |
| 02:21.37 | macsforme | and if someone can tell me where the flag safe zone is supposed to be on babel, I will fix that as well |
| 02:28.35 | moriah | in the middle of map there are 2 platforms....the tele is on the upper one....the flag flies to the one under |
| 02:29.35 | moriah | btw, i think allejo has the original babel from OL |
| 02:29.57 | BulletCatcher | Gotta be sure that flagHeight is less than the vertical distance between the walkway top and the bottom of the upper platform. |
| 02:32.21 | macsforme | I don't believe the flag can be made to spawn in the teleporter on the upper ramp... either of the other two options are likely doable |
| 02:32.57 | moriah | iirc, in OL it didnt spawn on the tele |
| 02:33.07 | moriah | was under |
| 02:38.54 | BulletCatcher | I have a vague recollection that flags would fly to the walkway level, not the ground and not the top platform with the teleporter. |
| 03:02.02 | BulletCatcher | The original author of the Pillbox map is an unsolved mystery, although https://forums.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=5709 and https://forums.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=14565 have some guesses. |
| 03:02.08 | BulletCatcher | The .bzw file in the leaguesunited repo is my work. |
| 03:02.14 | BulletCatcher | It has the look and feel of the orginal, but is re-engineered to be symmetrical and thwart specific types of cheat clients. |
| 03:02.17 | BulletCatcher | No one needs to fear my army of lawyers, and it seems to be a *very* low risk that the original Pillbox author will appear and make a credible claim of copyright infringement. |
| 03:03.24 | moriah | would it have been cosmos for pb |
| 03:09.22 | BulletCatcher | Any idea who created the 600x600 map used for the Pillbox League, moriah? |
| 03:09.24 | BulletCatcher | We could as them if they got permission to make that derivitave work, and if so, who from. |
| 03:09.46 | moriah | If i had to hazard a guess....would be pimpinella |
| 03:09.58 | moriah | he ran the pb league servers |
| 03:10.46 | moriah | longhair started the league |
| 03:11.41 | BulletCatcher | Wow. Haven't thought of longhair in a long time. :-) |
| 03:12.52 | moriah | :) |
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