IRC log for ##fritzbox on 20160607

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07:53.42FritzBotÄnderungen auf dem FTP gesichtet! - Geändert { [/fritz.box/fritzbox.3490/firmware/deutsch_a-ch(FRITZ.Box_3490.en-de-es-it-fr-pl.140.06.30.image(gelöscht), info.txt(10.09.2015 14:07:18/07.06.2016 11:43:27), FRITZ.Box_3490.en-de-es-it-fr-pl.140.06.52.image(neu))] [/fritz.box/fritzbox.3490/firmware/english(FRITZ.Box_3490.en-de-es-it-fr-pl.140.06.30.image(gelöscht), info.txt(10.09.2015 14:07:24/07.06.2016 11:43:12), FRITZ.Box_3490.en-de-es-it-fr-pl.1
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10:09.03FritzBotÄnderungen auf dem FTP gesichtet! - Geändert { [/fritz.box/fritzbox.3490/firmware/english(info.txt(07.06.2016 11:43:12/07.06.2016 14:03:28))] } - Zum FTP: ftp://ftp.avm.de/fritz.box/
10:09.23hyper_chtote hose hier :(
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10:37.40Guest37230hi again people
10:38.34Guest37230finally I've downloaded freetz-linux and opened it with virtualbox, and I'm doing my build from there
10:39.00Guest37230and I've choose freetz-stable-2.0
10:41.24Guest37230how much does the default build of freetz differ from the original AVM firmware ?
10:43.30hyper_chyou've used freetz before?
10:43.51Guest37230hyper_ch: nope, I'm a total newbie :)
10:44.11hyper_chwell, it provides a seperate interface fore freetz which offers additioanl stuff
10:44.17hyper_chmostly I use it to get dnsmasq
10:44.33hyper_chbut all on the main interface is still the same I think
10:44.55hyper_chand there's tons of other modules and stuff that you can select to compile into
10:46.09Guest37230hyper_ch: I've selected all the stuff that sounded interesting : nano, tcpdump, bash, openssh, sshfs-fuse, wget
10:46.27hyper_chyou need that?
10:46.39Guest37230hyper_ch: I don't know actually :/
10:46.52hyper_chso why do you wanna add freetz then?
10:47.03Guest37230I want to access the console of my router, so I guess I need openssh
10:47.08hyper_chI tend to think usually people put freetz on it because they want something that isn't offered by default
10:47.20Guest37230I don't want the shell ot be too limited so I guess I need bash
10:47.22hyper_chyeah, openssh is for that
10:47.28hyper_chbash is awesome :9
10:47.43Guest37230and tcpdump is cool to see what's wrong on the network
10:47.45hyper_chsshfs-fuse if you want to mount
10:48.15hyper_chwell, sounds like you have good reasons to compile that stuff :) don't get me wrong, you can compile all you want... but there's no point in compiling stuff you don't need ;)
10:48.33Guest37230but the reason I want to install freetz is mostly because of some limitations of the AVM firmware
10:48.51Guest37230like no possibility to define IPv6 routes
10:48.53hyper_chssh access and dnsmasq are what I need it for mostly
10:48.59hyper_chI don't believe in ipv6 ;)
10:49.20Guest37230no possibility to remove the firewall for other IPs than the first /64
10:49.28hyper_chmy isp still has no plans when to introduce ipv6 :(
10:49.42Guest37230and also a stupid security issue on the login page
10:50.28Guest37230if you go on the login page with w3m all the parameters of the login page are displayed in clear, including the password
10:50.28hyper_chsecurity issue?
10:50.49hyper_chand the problem is someone peeking over your shoulder?
10:50.57Guest37230hyper_ch: yes
10:51.18hyper_ch:)
10:51.39Guest37230login with w3m doesn't work anyway, but I really didn't expect that behavior
10:51.51Guest37230and I think it should be considered a security issue
10:51.58Guest37230even if minor
10:56.26Guest37230hyper_ch: is there any indication on what is free and what is not in the AVM firmware or the freetz firmware ?
10:56.53hyper_chno idea
11:06.49Guest37230hum it can't compile bash
11:17.21Guest37230trying with trunk
11:37.12hyper_chhttps://www.eine-zeitung.net/2016/06/07/spd-bunkert-waehlerstimmen-um-auf-schwere-zeiten-vorbereitet-zu-sein/
11:37.13FritzBot[url] SPD bunkert Wählerstimmen, um auf schwere Zeiten vorbereitet zu sein | Eine Zeitung | Nachrichten
12:05.48Guest37230bash compiling always fails
12:43.04Guest37230and tmux download fails as well
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13:40.08hyper_chGuest37230: can't help you there
13:40.13hyper_chhttp://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Zahlen-bitte-Euro-2016-Manche-jubeln-erst-nach-56-Sekunden-3228756.html
13:40.14FritzBot[url] Zahlen, bitte! Euro 2016: Manche jubeln erst nach 56 Sekunden | heise online
13:41.10Guest37230hyper_ch: the image was too big anyway, so I removed tmux, bash and a couple of other stuff
13:41.54Guest37230hyper_ch: anyway, do you know if I can flash the image from linux ? has anyone managed to run Recover.exe via wine ?
13:42.25hyper_chsure you can flash the image from linux I think... isn't it just done through the firmware upgrade wui interface?
13:42.35hyper_chwhat's recover.exe?
13:44.05Guest37230hyper_ch: http://freetz.org/wiki/help/howtos/common/newbie.en#Theflashingprocess
13:44.08FritzBot[url] help/howtos/common/newbie.en – Freetz
13:45.09hyper_chonce every couple of years I have to flash
13:45.41hyper_chso I keep forgetting how it works :)
13:46.31Guest37230hyper_ch: if it works by loading the image directly from the web interface it's cool
13:46.39Guest37230can you confirm ?
13:46.44hyper_chno
13:46.46hyper_chonce every couple of years I have to flash
13:46.47hyper_chso I keep forgetting how it works :)
13:47.09Guest37230hyper_ch: is there anyone else active on this channel ?
13:47.16hyper_chyes
13:47.33Guest37230like a freetz dev or something
13:47.43Guest37230or someone who writes documentation
13:50.11Guest37230I can't run it through wine so...
13:50.24Guest37230I hesitate flashing it from the web interface
13:50.35Guest37230if it doesn't work I can't recover the original firmware
13:50.47Guest37230unless there's a factory reset somewhere ?
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14:52.02stareyeGuest37230: there was a trick loadin at the root then loads it automatically but neved did
14:52.13stareyeat startup
14:52.17stareyeboot
15:07.20Guest37230stareye: do you have some documentation about this ?
15:48.28stareyeGuest37230: the guy who knows s not online
15:48.41stareyeask hippie2k
15:50.21Guest37230some people managed to make it work with wine apparently https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=12602
15:50.22FritzBot[url] WineHQ - FritzBox Recovery N/A
15:51.09Guest37230I'm going to make other tests
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16:02.01cc__(had to reboot, sry)
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18:06.42Guest30150ok it works now, thanks for all everyone
18:15.21stareyeGuest30150: with wine?
18:16.30Guest30150stareye: no, from the web interface, it works actually
18:17.01Guest30150I've got access to the freetz web interface now
18:17.12Guest30150I'm trying to connect to the ssh server
18:17.32Guest30150password doesn't seem to work, I don't know why
18:19.18stareyeGuest30150: did you want to recover or wanted to install freetz
18:19.37stareyepassword ist freetz
18:19.49stareyeroot nd freetz
18:20.08Guest30150stareye: oh thanks
18:20.10Guest30150:D
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21:07.54the_mgtnabend! mal wieder eine halb-offtopic frage: kunde von mir hat einen anlagen anschluss bei der telekom, altes isdn system. und einen vdsl deutschlandLAN ip vertrag, mit voip (3 nummern, 2 sprachkanäle)
21:08.49the_mgtjetzt stellen die sich irgendwie quer, dass über voip ausgehende gespräche die selbe rufnummer wie der anlagenanschluss zeigen. also rumpfnummer-00 wäre schön. vorher hatten die kunden einen 1&1 anschluss, auch voip, wo genau das ging.
21:10.14the_mgtwas hindert die telekom dadran, das umzusetzen? ausser bürokratischem starrsinn. technisch ging es bei 1&1, angeblich ist das telekom voip aber etwas ganz anderes als "nur ein telefoniedienst über dsl", es wäre "ein eigenständiges, geschlossenes netz". versteh ich da an voip etwas nicht?
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